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#2666877 Mantha

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 10 April 2016 - 04:06 PM

There's no point to this. No one in their right mind expects this team to go anywhere based off the last half of the season we've had. This lineup failed multiple times to secure their own destiny against nonplayoff teams and the AHL Ranger squad. There's a win win with using Mantha and AA and that's valuable playoff experience (with Datsyuk's final games no less) and at the same time maybe one of them has a breakout series. This 23rd ranked offense is not going to get us anywhere.


With our normal lineup I wouldn't consider any of the lines "solid" besides the 4th line that barely gets to play. Maybe Datsyuk's line is decent, but at the same time the potential could be so much higher without stonehands Helm and Richards. Who is supposed to finish on that line? Datsyuk and Richards are pass first playmakers and Helm is a grinder.

Agreed on Datsyuk's line. I've never liked Tatar and Nyquist together. I'd put Tat-Dats-Helm back together that was good last year. and maybe Rich-AA-Nyquist for 3rd




#2666857 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by AtlantaHotWings on 10 April 2016 - 02:56 PM

 

Cant say I like this, but i'd rather send him down to play then leave him up as a healthy scratch.

 

I think we let the kids play and lets see what speed can do. There was game in the last 5 where AA was down at the dots and came back to break up a play due to his speed. Who has our shorthanded goals? I believe once again AA.  When did our PP start to click when Mantha parked his big booty in front of the net. Even Larkin seems to be getting back some of his gusto. 

 

We have nothing to lose by doing as suggested above in multiple posts intermingle the youth with the old. Seems like last year all we heard about was how fast Tampa was. Well lets see how fast they really are and run and gun. We know our defense is well our defense so f it and let the kids get experience. 

 

We aren't considered a favorite for the cup.  Speed can draw penalties, penalties gives power plays and up till when Mantha was sat we were clicking right along in that department.

 

We seem to forget the holiest of holy Stevie Y wasn't a full 2 way player until Scotty forced him so it takes some time to develop that game.  

 

Time for little Wings to take flight. 




#2666715 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 10 April 2016 - 02:23 AM

:lol: I love this whole "so and so can't play defense, so I'm gonna scratch them" Tatar and Nyquist can't win battles to save their lives. We have a coach that doesn't prioritize goal scoring. That's a problem, guess what? Goals win games. For me, I want guys that can score goals. Patrick Kane can't spell "backcheck" and he's a 3 time Stanley Cup champion. Enough of this garbage from management and coaching, play to win thef****** game.




#2666665 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 09 April 2016 - 09:16 PM

THere is absolutely no way AA and Mantha will play in the same game in the playoffs unless we are seriously desperate. Neither of them are even close to where they need to be defensively and when line matching gets really greasy in the playoffs they will get exposed. 
 
Z - D - Abs
Larkin - Sheahan - Gus
Helm - Glen - Tats 
Andy - Richards - Mantha/AA
 
Sheahan and Glendening have been very good lately.  The only way to get Z going is to play him with Pavel.  The other winger on that line could be anyone but Abby has been there and knows his role.  I just think there is no way AA and Mantha are in the lineup at the same time. 


Ya and that's the problem with the way our coach thinks, honestly I don't think AA is bad at all defensively


#2666677 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by VM1138 on 09 April 2016 - 09:58 PM

The defensive argument goes out the window when you can't score. Mantha and AA score. So what if they're on the ice for a goal against if they score one or two? For right now, with the assets we have, that's okay. There's only like six defensively talented guys on the whole squad anyway.

Not everyone on a team can be a defensive stalwart. You do have to score, and when things tighten up in the playoffs watch our offense evaporate completely.


#2666679 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 09 April 2016 - 10:02 PM

The thing that I look at is were not seen or looked at as a contender so that means we have nothing to lose, so why play it safe and try to as we say "lean on the vets" there are a lot of exciting kids Larkin, AA, Mantha, at times even tats and goose so why not embrace them there fast, hungry, and skilled why not? What is there to lose? I'm not saying sit pav and Z if anything I say we put them together with a guy like Larkin and let them dominate. Ya it may leave the rest of the group as considered to be inexperienced but those inexperienced guys also have talent, speed, and are hungry. Turn these guys loose play fast and let the kids play, I think we'd be a lot better


#2666592 Who will finish as the leading scorer for the Red Wings 2015/2016?

Posted by WingsallTheway on 09 April 2016 - 04:50 PM

Not quite the 86 Oilers.

 

I remember back in the day when Lidstrom had something like 88 points and we played Nashville? in the playoffs. Theyre leading scorer had something around 45 points and I thought it was the funniest thing of all time.

 

Well here we are...




#2666573 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by joesuffP on 09 April 2016 - 03:10 PM

Imagine trading Seguin for nothing

 

Blake Wheeler, Douggie Hamilton....

 

That's a great core right there




#2666548 Post Epic Meltdown - er, Post Game Discussion

Posted by joesuffP on 09 April 2016 - 02:48 PM

At least Nyqvist can go through the motions without people noticing him out there too much. Tatar is just a train wreck. Guy forgot how to handle the puck




#2666500 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by shoe on 09 April 2016 - 02:21 PM

This years playoff is the equivalent to taking your sister to the prom so you have a frikin date.  :sleepy:




#2666487 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by WingsallTheway on 09 April 2016 - 02:18 PM

If I'm Blashill this is what I roll with:

 

Glendenning-Glendenning-Glendenning

 

 

Dylan - Dylan - Dylan - Dylan - Dylan

 

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#2666462 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 09 April 2016 - 02:14 PM

Just play the right players, that's a lot of the problem


#2666434 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by VM1138 on 09 April 2016 - 02:10 PM

That was the most comically bad attempt at a 6 on 3 I've ever seen. This Wings team is broken. Like...Leafs broken. Not just choking but finding new levels of suckage. Couldn't even keep the puck in the zone with a 6 on 3 against AHL players.


#2666432 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by MTU_Huskies963 on 09 April 2016 - 02:10 PM

A no look pass seriously Abby?!


#2666430 4/9 GDT : at Rangers 3, Red Wings 2

Posted by HasekHool on 09 April 2016 - 02:10 PM

Only these wings can blow a 6 vs. 3 like this. BAH GAWD