Because most of those people are not capable of centering a second line, datsyuk and Zetterberg are the only two you listed I would be comfortable with. I would rather have them both in the top line and have a second line center for franzen
I'd rather have 26 year old Fedorov back too. Trust me. But Ken Holland aint gonna get us a marquis player this year. He's going after Edler and Weiss. These guys are chumps. You shouldnt have to beg for scraps. Thats bad GM'ing. Good GM'ing is finding what you have too much of ( D and Small/skilled Euros) and trading for what you dont have enough of (Scorers and Big/Hitting North Americans). Thats why we ate all scratching our heads. We need 2 Fawking players to make this team a Stanley Cup winner. We need a guy like Vanek, and we need a guy like Clarkson. Kenny is going after Edler, Weiss, and Cleary. That's just foolish.
Columbus and Dallas have been trending plenty better than the Wings and Wild over the past 10, but at this point the Wings have the supposed advantage of games in hand.
Columbus has the fewest games remaining at two, one of which is against Dallas. The best the Wings can hope for is a game ending in regulation there, and Nashville to beat them in the last game of the season, which may very well decide whether the Wings are in or out, regardless of what we do in our last few games.
Dallas plays at San Jose, who has played well of late, before finishing against Columbus and Detroit. Head-to-head to end the season is a REAL must win. Whoever loses is out.
The Wings have a game in hand on both Dallas and Minnesota. Minnesota hasn't been playing good down the stretch, much like the Wings, but their final 3 games are against the Kings and bottom-feeders Edmonton and Colorado. Assuming they don't play down to their competition like the Wings, we can assume we won't make up the 3 point spread over our last 4.
Columbus can land at 51-55 points (needs win against DAL to stay alive)
Minnesota can land at 51-57 points (controls their own destiny)
Dallas can land at 48-54 points (needs wins against both CBJ and DET to stay alive)
Detroit can land at 48-56 points (needs win against DAL bad)
Detroit currently has the tie breaker on Columbus, but not Dallas or Minnesota.
As I pointed out in my post, they don't really have any more depth than we do. Sharp's been out almost half the year, Hossa missed 7. Saad, Bolland, Stalberg, Bickell, Shaw... none of them are really any better than what we have, none of them have as many goals as Brunner, and only Saad matches Franzen. More likely I think is that Kane and Toews add more to those guys than those guys add to Kane and Toews.
Upgrading a couple of our forwards to Sharp and Hossa level would help, I'm sure. But I wouldn't expect it to double Pav and Hank's output. Particularly not if the one's you upgrade are Franzen and Filppula, as you'd likely need to do to make it work under the cap.
The Wings have 9 negative forwards to The Hawks' 1. In fact the Hawks as a whole have only 2 negative players, the Wings, 12. I know +/- isn't a perfect indicator of a player's talent level but it does reflect something about their effort on the ice which gets bitched about A LOT on here. Chicago's roster kills us in +/- and it's not because of PP goals. Maybe we wouldn't need a ton of scoring if guys weren't getting outskated, outworked and losing puck battles that end up in the back of their net. This is why people might say their depth is "better" than ours.
If I were Datsyuk, I'd walk into Kenny's office and demand a trade off this sinking ship. But, Pav would never do that. He'll just deke Kenny out and go back to work. He'll carry this whole organization by himself, if he has to. That's just so unfair to him.
Pav is my favorite player of all time. He deserves to have someone to play with. The guy is still so dominant. Get him someone really good to play with and who knows maybe he re-signs for a couple more years.
I'd rather lose a first and a good prospect for a star player plus two more years of pav playing with that star player
Ehrhoff is a puck moving defenseman. 40-50 points is not out of the question. Vanek is a 40 goal scorer.
Are we really worried about what MIGHT be a problem 8-9 years down the road? Ehrhoff's cap # is $4.0M. Even at 6 years, that's a decent run. And as you guys mentioned, he's not physical.....performing to the end of the contract is possible.
It's ok to be a middling team? Jesus Christ, people. Do you hear yourselves? This is supposed to be a team that has one goal, every year--The Stanley Cup.
You've been brainwashed into accepting mediocrity so that we can be mediocre for 3-4 more years before falling off, rather than a serious contender (now) and dealing with the future as it comes? If Ken Holland is the genius some make him out to be, why do we have to accept s*** teams? If we are nearing the end of our window, why not go for it?