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#2615458 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by Jedi on 20 June 2015 - 10:26 AM

We've confirmed that the recent influx of spammers are actual people, not spambots or anything like that. As such, there may not be much we can do to prevent the occasional attack.

We have tools that make cleaning up these attacks extremely easy (one click on their profile and they're banned, content removed and ip-blocked). But unfortunately we can't use these tools until the spam posts are brought to our attention. That's where we need members to use the "report post" tool.

When a post is reported, the system sends an email to each of the boards moderators and Admin. That way we get notified, even if we're not on the boards.

One thing though, most of these spammers tend to attack the boards in the very late/early hours, when most people are asleep. LGW mods are just like everyone else, we have jobs and responsibilities that make it hard to be online at the time these spammers hit. So please understand that we will take care of the attacker as soon as we can, but it may be several hours before a mod can be online.


#2609663 Babcock says good-bye in full page ad. SIAP

Posted by LeftWinger on 22 May 2015 - 11:08 AM

Hopefully the first time TO is in Detroit, the organization puts together a nice presentation for him, so the fans can cheer and say goodbye.  Maybe just his picture on the scoreboard and announcer saying that the fans and team would like to thank him for 10 years of great hockey!  Crowd erupts, Babcock cries, then Mrazek shut's out the leafs....perfect night.




#2609627 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by gcom007 on 22 May 2015 - 09:23 AM

 

If that were the case then Toronto wouldn't have had to so massively overpay him for the pleasure.  Hell, they could have offered roughly the same money as Detroit and been confident he'd come to Toronto because they could offer him all the "intangible" things Detroit coudn't.  They could have offered him immortality.  Legacy.  Prestige.  Greatness. 

 

But it wasn't about any of that.  They had to massively outbid everybody because otherwise Babcock wouldn't have gone there.  They didn't give him that money out of the kindness of their hearts, and he didn't ask for it just for s***s and giggles. 

 

It wasn't about winning, or family, or anything else.  Eventually, as these things often do, it all came down to cash.  Lidstrom stayed with the Wings for less.  So did Datsyuk.  And Zetterberg.  And Kronwall.  Because they wanted to win here.

 

Babcock didn't. 

 

Sure, it was about cash. If you get offered a deal like that, it obviously becomes about cash. But Buffalo had a similar deal on the table as well, and it's been said that the figure Babcock signed for is the figure that was first presented. They're desperate teams who have to make desperate offers to get his attention. If he wasn't in it on some level for the challenge, and honestly an unparalleled challenge at that, he could've gone to Buffalo and gotten paid the same, and most likely been able to get to winning quicker with a lot less pain from the media and fans. But he chose Toronto, I believe because there's no other opportunity like it in hockey, and because by all appearances, they seem to be making a commitment to rebuilding the team the right way at last. And yes, because of the cash. And the length of the contract. Even Holland mentioned a sticking point with the Wings was how long they were willing to go.

 

And let's go there for a second. Babcock has been here ten years now. If he had signed even the 4-year deal and lasted the length of it, he'd have the second longest tenure in NHL history for a head coach at 14 years. Jack Adams had the longest at 20 between 1927-1947. There are a handful of guys who did 13 years, though no one has done a single term that long in almost 20 years. Simply put, it's hardly unusual for coaches to jump to new teams. Whether as much cash was on the table or not, there's a much higher likelihood than not that Babcock would've moved on now or at some point in the near future. It's the nature of the position, and it's why I don't think it's fair or accurate to say this is only about cash.

 

Babcock knew his time was going to be coming to an end here soon enough, and he was at a noteworthy milestone, not just in his career, but in his family life. If ever there was a time to make a change, it's now. When you get offered a deal like he was offered, that obviously is going to help motivate you to make said change. When it's an opportunity to help rebuild a legendary team with management that finally seems committed to doing it right, that's obviously going to be exciting to him. Was the cash a part of it? Absolutely. But to suggest that his decision was solely about the cash is utterly and completely simplistic.




#2609623 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by derblaueClaus on 22 May 2015 - 09:06 AM

 

If that were the case then Toronto wouldn't have had to so massively overpay him for the pleasure.  Hell, they could have offered roughly the same money as Detroit and been confident he'd come to Toronto because they could offer him all the "intangible" things Detroit coudn't.  They could have offered him immortality.  Legacy.  Prestige.  Greatness. 

 

But it wasn't about any of that.  They had to massively outbid everybody because otherwise Babcock wouldn't have gone there.  They didn't give him that money out of the kindness of their hearts, and he didn't ask for it just for s***s and giggles. 

 

It wasn't about winning, or family, or anything else.  Eventually, as these things often do, it all came down to cash.  Lidstrom stayed with the Wings for less.  So did Datsyuk.  And Zetterberg.  And Kronwall.  Because they wanted to win here.

 

Babcock didn't. 

 

Not necessarily. I'd agree with you but there wasn't a bidding war from the Leafs side according to Shanny and Babs. The Leafs made the offer before Babcock was heading to Prague. The only one that raised their offer were the Red Wings. If you believe that is of course your choice, but I haven't seen any media piece that says otherwise. What does it tell us ? Well, Babs didn't demand that kind of money and I'm sure he'd still choose the Maple Leafs if we matched that offer or if the Leafs offer wasn't better than our first.

 

"It all comes down to cash" is a too simple answer.  Decisions are made because of a number of reasons. Money may have played a role, but all the other factors mentioned here in the thread and by Babs were probably more significant. If everything came down to money no one would have blamed Babs if he said so. He could have just sat in the presser and told the media that the Leafs made the best offer money wise. Would you blamed him ? I sure wouldn't. Almost nobody would. Instead he made lengthy explanation that sounds reasonable for a guy like him.




#2609603 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by Wings3:16 on 22 May 2015 - 07:42 AM

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#2609425 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 21 May 2015 - 01:33 PM

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Expect announcement Dylan Larkin leaving @umichhockey for Detroit Red Wings and will be available for Grand Rapids series vs Utica. #TSN




#2609229 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 May 2015 - 08:41 PM

 

Except Calgary did so in 2004 and Edmonton did so in 2006.  Three consecutive seasons where it happened (unfortunately all at our expense.   :glare: )

 

None of these teams had repeated successes in the following seasons.  That was just a weird mini-era during that three or four year run.  You can throw the 2002 Hurricanes in there as well.  

 

So your proof that it was a fluke run is that it happened three times in a row?  Makes sense.   :eh:

 

It wasn't some magical era when any team with a hot goalie could make it to game 7 of the finals. That line of reasoning is overly simplistic.  If you seriously think of the runs of Calgary, the Oilers, the Ducks and Hurricanes as basically all the same, I really don't know what to say other than it seems like you're starting with your premise and then grabbing any information to support it.  Or maybe as a Wings fan it's easier to accept them as fluke upsets?  I really don't know. 

 

I get that you don't like Babcock.  I'm not arguing he's the absolute best coach in the league or that he was the best fit for the Wings next season.   It's just amusing to see how far people will stretch reality to discredit his accomplishments. 


I'm not one bit disappointed at the turn of events. Shocked at the number but that is the Leafs culture. I'm actually excited about our future.

One of the best zingers I read, as per Leafs' culture, management already working on buyout for Babcock.

 

The best one I saw was that it was hard for Detroit to compete with because Toronto was offering an extra months vacation. 




#2609225 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by shoe on 20 May 2015 - 08:09 PM

Babcocks new company car.

 

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#2608824 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by GoalieManPat on 20 May 2015 - 12:28 PM

Get tons of money and you get to take every Spring off. Who can blame him.




#2608822 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by darkmanx on 20 May 2015 - 12:27 PM

If he wins in Toronto he'll be a god, if not he'll at least be paid like one. Plus I'm sure he'll have more power in the organization, then he's got in Detroit.

 

I get that, however they couldn't win spending like Detroit why will things change now? Players already don't want to go to Toronto, and they weren't lining up to play in Detroit because Babcock was here either.




#2608637 Report: Oilers hire McLellan

Posted by Mckinley25 on 19 May 2015 - 06:06 PM

This is kind of ancient in today's terms of social media but no threads on this ... because we are all in a frenzy about Babwatch.
 
Anyhow, as you all know by now, Oilers announced hiring of McLellan.  Great choice, classy coach.  Oilers will be a force to be wreckoned with in 2-3 years.  Anyone know the dollars and terms?  
 
http://oilers.nhl.co...s.htm?id=768169
 
P.S. Oilers didn't even request official permission to talk to Babcock.  


Maybe they didn't want to spend 5 million when they could get the same thing for 2.


#2608567 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by amato on 19 May 2015 - 12:44 PM

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#2608563 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 19 May 2015 - 12:40 PM

If true, fine by me ... in the end, he wasn't as sought after as he or most people thought.  Toronto, Buffalo, Det were the only true options.  Nothing from Pittsburgh, SJ, Edmonton, St. Louis ... 

 

Guess he's not even close to the 'best coach in the NHL period'.

 

It pains me to defend Mike Babcock.  Everybody knows that I think he's an overrated, blowhard, whose folksy Canadian "awww shucks, we need to work harder, and listen to our wives more" crap is just a veneer. 

 

That said, he's definitely one of the top coaches in the league.  He's just not soooo much better that teams who already have good coaches (or coaching options) are willing to drop everything and throw the bank at him.  There are a couple of coaches who are probably better, and a hand full that are as good.  Any team without a coach, or with a consistently underwhelming coach should be happy to have him.  But any team that already has a quality guy would be dumb to can them for Babs.  And for some reason that was what everybody expected.  Also, the fact that there are at least 3 or 4 other really good coaches available really diminished the interest in Babs.  Why throw 5 million at him when you can get McLellan or Bylsma for cheaper and they're not much (or any) worse than he is. 


 

 

 

If the whole process disgusts you so much, why follow it so closely?  It's like repeatedly drinking spoiled milk.

 

I follow hockey because I love the sport.  I'd really love to follow the Stanley Cup playoffs, since those are still going on and all.  Unfortunately every single outlet dedicated to covering the sport of hockey, is currently following #Babswatch.  So I'm forced to either quit following the sport I love, or follow it and comment on how idiotic this whole decision making process has been.  I've chosen the latter.  What else am I going to do, watch the NBA?  Lol.   




#2608511 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 19 May 2015 - 10:07 AM

This is like an episode of The Bachelor".  Everybody is waiting to see if Mike will give Ken Holland the rose. 

 

Puke.




#2608467 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 18 May 2015 - 09:44 PM

I really don't want to lose Blashill for 4 years of Babcock. Will be interesting to see how this all pans out..,