ComradeWasabi

I don't care if it is hearsay, it has the same effect.

Regardless of the effect (the absurdity of which I discussed in my previous post), there is absolutely no proof that Leipold said anything of the sort and as such no case to make for punishing the Wild. End of story.

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...leafs-fine.html

Summary of the article: the Leafs were fined for the public comments made by Ron Wilson. Craig Leipold's comments, on the other hand were (allegedly) made at dinner and then reported by whomever, not given publicly. In fact, there's absolutely no proof that Leipold said anything of the sort; right now, all we have is hearsay, which means nothing, from someone not affiliated with the team.

Personally, I think the rules concerning "tampering" are ridiculous anyways. Obviously negotiating with an impending free agent before the free agency period begins is a big no-no, but that would be outright cheating. But what the hell is the point of making GMs and coaches pretend that they aren't interested in acquiring an impending UFA if he goes to market? It's a pointless exercise. Everybody in hockey knows that there are 29 teams interested in Zach Parise, so who really cares if people talk about it? You can bet your bottom dollar that these conversations happen constantly behind closed doors and in private anyways. It's silly to put the blinders on.

As far as you example concerning Parise's price point: why should there be a rule in place which restricts the information available to everyone when negotiating salary? How is it fair to restrict information for the benefit of one team, possibly to the detriment of the 29 other teams AND the player(s) in question? I understand that he's still technically under contract with the Devils, but why is the team being protected instead of the players? The players are the talent, they're the ones out on the ice, and if they want to get paid more for it by going to free agency, that's their prerogative. Trying to withhold information that would influence that decision - a life-changing, multi-million dollar decision - is outrageous.

Wanna talk about the certain Nashville vs. St. Louis Western Conference Final matchup this year?  

I say Blues in 6.  

This is the reason we don't want you here. You're right, it is definitely useful and enjoyable when fans of other teams contribute. MacK_Attack is the first person I think of; a Leafs fan, but one whose posts I've always enjoyed reading. (On that note, I feel like I haven't seen him in a while...?)

What we don't want to see - and the reason we use the term troll - is when people come here and all they do is tell us that their team is going to beat ours. I don't see how that contributes to friendly playoff discussion, especially when there's trash-talking involved (not citing any specific examples, just speaking generally). What possible purpose does this serve other than to get a rise out of the forumgoers here? That is, what purpose other than to troll us and hope for a reaction?

Sure, other team's fans are welcome here. But it should be painfully obvious that it's a Red Wings forum and that you (again, a general you, not you necessarily) are opening yourself up to hostile reactions from Red Wings fans when you post something we don't agree with. You might not like it, but nobody's making you come here. If you can't take the heat, don't play with fire.

Unfortunately Homer throws a pretty nasty wrench into the bottom six. He definitely doesn't fit in with the conventional third/fourth line - fast, tenacious, physical, and defensively strong. However, he has shown he can't really keep up in the top six anymore, either. I wish he could fit in better, but he simply doesn't.

Although, to be fair, Emmerton hasn't been any better.

Wow. What a shot.

^ "Entertaining," "literary," and "calisthenics" all have four syllables. Clearly your English was stronger than your math in school.

Also, why are you here? You clearly have absolutely no interest in discussing the game - all you're doing on this forum right now is trolling. If you really are 41 years old, I would hope there's something more productive you could be doing with your life.

Good luck getting the 2 points on Thursday. If we meet you in the playoffs - i.e., in games that actually matter - and want to have a real discussion about hockey, come on back. Just don't come in, s*** on our porch and tell us we should be really worried about getting it cleaned up.

You make it sound like the car is given away because the person who was picked last has been whining about it - which isn't the case at all. The car was given away starting last year to Phil Kessel, but not because he whined about it - it was a decision made by the league, almost certainly in conjunction with Honda as a promotional thing.

And for the record, Kessel did donate the car to charity last year.

Lindstrom

Get the hell out.

In the same article, the guy is described as being 6'2", 190lbs (but maybe closer to 180lbs) and then later described as 6'1", 170lbs.  I'm confused.

Welcome to the professionalism of George Malik.

Steroids and other that kinda stuff that doesn't belong in the human body. The leagues just don't want to talk about it because it would look bad from a marketing perspective.

Pretty bold statement to make with 0 evidence or proof. Baseball's had tons of admissions of steroid use and yet I can't recall any premature deaths of baseball players recently.

Sure, Hudler can put up 40+ points, but that's about it. No defensive responsibility, no checking of any kind, no speed, no net-front presence, no "grit". If someone whose only talent is to score is not scoring as much as he should, then he didn't perform very well. If he brought something else to the table - which he does not - a sub-par year numbers-wise may be forgiven. That's not the case with Happy.

edit: I realize I completely ignored the point of your thread, but this is part of my ongoing effort to make you understand why nobody likes Hudler here. It's not blind hate.

Why are you so sure?! Why would Bab do such stupid thing? Why do you think Lids and Zetta would agree?

Just (try and) picture this: Scotty goes to Larionov and ask if he stop drinking his regular glass of wine every day...

Remember there is a difference between having trouble with drinking and living a normal life. If this Dry Island story is true, Carter and Richards are the only normal guys there, who would not comply with stupidity and object anyone, even a head coach, who interferes with their personal life.

They were (and are) getting paid millions and millions and millions of dollars to be the best hockey players they can be and help their team win. A coach would not say anything about drinking unless it was interfering with the job they are getting paid to do. I doubt your boss would tolerate you coming in hung over on a Tuesday and performing poorly, and I bet you get paid a lot less than Mike Richards or Jeff Carter.

I get the feeling that some of the anti-Osgood sentiment around the NHL is just runoff from the anti-Red Wings sentiments out there.

Disappointment in the off-season wheeling and dealing in haiku form.

A rival gets better (6 syllables)
The Sharks, I mean, not Minny (7 syllables)
I miss contending. (5 syllables)

You could at least make it a proper haiku if you're gonna be a debbie downer.

Ericsson is very, very good at moving the puck. I've never seen so many crisp, clean, tape-to-tape passes to the other team's forwards before.