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#2534959 Fedorov and Yzerman vs. Datsyuk and Zetterberg

Posted by LeftWinger on 26 August 2014 - 06:05 PM

In all seriousness, this is no contest. Yzerman and Fedorov, hands down, all day long, all week long, all year long...etc...etc...


I love Pav and Z, but if Yzerman and Fedorov were able to play in this no obstruction era, I cannot imagine the points they would have put up. I believe Pav and Z would've done fine in 90's, but not as good as they do now and I believe nowhere near what Yzerman and Feds would do today...

#2534914 Datsyuk or Fedorov?

Posted by number9 on 25 August 2014 - 01:58 PM

Both of them should be in the Hall. Fedorov started his career earlier and had better seasons, so it's hard to argue Datsyuk is the better player right now. Fedorov really fell off after leaving Detroit though, so if Datsyuk keeps up a better pace through the end of his career an argument might be made then.
Bowman did that to f with him not because he wasn't playing defense.


Who told you that, Bowman?


To Feds credit he did very well playing defense, and i believe the Caps experimented with him at D late in his career when they didn't have enough Dmen on the roster.

#2534692 The Pavel Datsyuk Show

Posted by number9 on 21 August 2014 - 02:45 PM

Just watched all 69 minutes and 14 seconds of this at work. I'll blame you SOW when I'm unemployed.

#2534495 Lidstrom honoured today with plaque next to Yzerman

Posted by Son of a Wing on 18 August 2014 - 02:44 PM


#2534320 Kevin Hayes

Posted by number9 on 15 August 2014 - 01:49 PM

HA, suck it hawks

#2534208 LGW Fit Club

Posted by Matt on 14 August 2014 - 08:54 AM

I love the Fitbit, actually. It's the primary reason this has worked so well. I'm down 42 pounds now, and getting close to the goal -- want to hit the gym and build up muscle mass as the weather starts to cool. (That and adding equipment in the basement.)


The Fitbit + syncing with MyFitnessPal (watch calorie intake) and MapMyFitness is FANTASTIC. Can't recommend it enough. Has made this process tremendously easy.

#2534154 What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 August 2014 - 12:53 PM


Because Gretzky was putting up more points on significantly worse teams.  At every single stage of their respective careers Wayne Gretzky was a superior player.  I know that it's become fashionable over the years to downplay just how good this guy was, but the truth is, he's not universally considered the greatest hockey player in the history of the game because he was actually worse than Steve Yzerman. 


Again, this is just a case of hometown nostalgia.  As I've already said, it's like saying you wouldn't trade Ray Bourque for Bobby Orr (I know, same team) just because Bourque was really good too. 


Given their respective careers up to that point, you'd be a complete and total fool to not trade Yzerman for Gretzky in 1988. 


You're twisting his words. I think Hoon had a very valid point.


He refuted your statement..



"You take the same teams as we had in 97, 98, and 2002 and swap Yzerman for Gretzky and we're WAY better."


...by addressing the fact that Gretzky was nearing retirement for 97/98 and actually in retirement for 2002 and in comparison, Yzerman was in his 2-way prime.


A very valid point.

#2533949 Greatest Wings game ever

Posted by RusDRW on 09 August 2014 - 03:11 PM

March 26. Are there any doubts? 

#2533933 Greatest Wings game ever

Posted by F.Michael on 09 August 2014 - 08:39 AM

Ugh...So many to choose from.


March 26th 1997.


June 7th 1997.


May 29th 2002.


Numerous others

#2533655 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by number9 on 03 August 2014 - 09:00 PM

In my mind Konstantinov would have been legendary had that tragedy not occurred.

#2533636 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by kliq on 03 August 2014 - 06:34 PM

I would have to say Chris Osgood. The guy definitely had his faults, and had stretches where he was god awful, but what he was able to accomplish in his career here was on paper HOF worthy. People always seem to jump to the "Anyone could have won the cup with those teams in front of him" argument, but to me that isn’t fair. Many great teams have been eliminated by inferior teams due to goaltending (Detroit (Legace) vs Edmonton (Roloson)).


Even after the 2 year stretch in 08 & 09, I still here people calling him garbage.


I think on a mainstream level Holmstrom is a good pick, but I think most diehards give him the credit he deserves. I don’t think I have ever met a Wings fan who doesn’t give Holmstrom his due.

#2533458 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by roboturner on 01 August 2014 - 01:41 PM

He'll still be signing Cleary 'when he's 64'.

#2532407 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by number9 on 17 July 2014 - 07:21 PM

DD doesn't even have a full 82 games under his belt yet. No way he gets 4 mil for 5

#2530881 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by turbowhistle86 on 09 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

this is cute.....why don't they get married while they're at it and then they can punch cabbies together?  There's no way Kane is worth that money! 



and don't get me started on Toews' playoff beard......



#2525331 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 June 2014 - 05:18 PM

Man, I don't care if the guy's 42, 45, 58 1/2 - it's one less spot for Dan Cleary.