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#2534495 Lidstrom honoured today with plaque next to Yzerman

Posted by Son of a Wing on 18 August 2014 - 02:44 PM


#2534320 Kevin Hayes

Posted by number9 on 15 August 2014 - 01:49 PM

HA, suck it hawks

#2534208 LGW Fit Club

Posted by Matt on 14 August 2014 - 08:54 AM

I love the Fitbit, actually. It's the primary reason this has worked so well. I'm down 42 pounds now, and getting close to the goal -- want to hit the gym and build up muscle mass as the weather starts to cool. (That and adding equipment in the basement.)


The Fitbit + syncing with MyFitnessPal (watch calorie intake) and MapMyFitness is FANTASTIC. Can't recommend it enough. Has made this process tremendously easy.

#2534154 What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 13 August 2014 - 12:53 PM


Because Gretzky was putting up more points on significantly worse teams.  At every single stage of their respective careers Wayne Gretzky was a superior player.  I know that it's become fashionable over the years to downplay just how good this guy was, but the truth is, he's not universally considered the greatest hockey player in the history of the game because he was actually worse than Steve Yzerman. 


Again, this is just a case of hometown nostalgia.  As I've already said, it's like saying you wouldn't trade Ray Bourque for Bobby Orr (I know, same team) just because Bourque was really good too. 


Given their respective careers up to that point, you'd be a complete and total fool to not trade Yzerman for Gretzky in 1988. 


You're twisting his words. I think Hoon had a very valid point.


He refuted your statement..



"You take the same teams as we had in 97, 98, and 2002 and swap Yzerman for Gretzky and we're WAY better."


...by addressing the fact that Gretzky was nearing retirement for 97/98 and actually in retirement for 2002 and in comparison, Yzerman was in his 2-way prime.


A very valid point.

#2533949 Greatest Wings game ever

Posted by RusDRW on 09 August 2014 - 03:11 PM

March 26. Are there any doubts? 

#2533933 Greatest Wings game ever

Posted by F.Michael on 09 August 2014 - 08:39 AM

Ugh...So many to choose from.


March 26th 1997.


June 7th 1997.


May 29th 2002.


Numerous others

#2533655 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by number9 on 03 August 2014 - 09:00 PM

In my mind Konstantinov would have been legendary had that tragedy not occurred.

#2533636 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by kliq on 03 August 2014 - 06:34 PM

I would have to say Chris Osgood. The guy definitely had his faults, and had stretches where he was god awful, but what he was able to accomplish in his career here was on paper HOF worthy. People always seem to jump to the "Anyone could have won the cup with those teams in front of him" argument, but to me that isn’t fair. Many great teams have been eliminated by inferior teams due to goaltending (Detroit (Legace) vs Edmonton (Roloson)).


Even after the 2 year stretch in 08 & 09, I still here people calling him garbage.


I think on a mainstream level Holmstrom is a good pick, but I think most diehards give him the credit he deserves. I don’t think I have ever met a Wings fan who doesn’t give Holmstrom his due.

#2533458 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by roboturner on 01 August 2014 - 01:41 PM

He'll still be signing Cleary 'when he's 64'.

#2532407 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by number9 on 17 July 2014 - 07:21 PM

DD doesn't even have a full 82 games under his belt yet. No way he gets 4 mil for 5

#2530881 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by turbowhistle86 on 09 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

this is cute.....why don't they get married while they're at it and then they can punch cabbies together?  There's no way Kane is worth that money! 



and don't get me started on Toews' playoff beard......



#2525331 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 June 2014 - 05:18 PM

Man, I don't care if the guy's 42, 45, 58 1/2 - it's one less spot for Dan Cleary.

#2525316 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 04:47 PM

Hope he comes back for less money and he isn't the only acquisition the Wings make this off-season.

#2525015 Brad Richards bought out by Rangers

Posted by Euro_Twins on 21 June 2014 - 10:22 AM

Another circular arguement. Fun times! Neither is a great player and maybe never were. But and this is key, both have long bad contracts. One team realized this and bought out their crap the other didn't. Now when comparing the 2 in terms of numbers it is taking a trip down the over rated road. But lets.....
Richards just turn 34 a couple of months ago and Franzen turns 35 in a couple of months. They are 8 months apart in age, with Franzen being older. Franzen has had at least 3 concussions in the NHL and a couple of other major injuries along the way, Richards hasn't. Over the past 3 seasons Richards missed a total of 2 regular season games. For their careers Richards scores .88 points per game, Franzen scores .61 ppg. Now over the last 3 years Richards numbers have dropped to .72 ppg, but those numbers are still better than Franzen's. Yes some of that is the fact Richards is a C and get s a lot of assists, while Franzen is a winger and supposed to score goals. On that front though they are very close. Richards has scored 56 regular season goals and 12 post season goals over the past 3 years while Franzen has scored 59 in the past 3 regular seasons and 5 in the past 3 post seasons.
Now I am no fan of richards, nor do I want him here. Lets be very clear about that. In each case we have declining players that are signed long term. Both should have been bought out. That is the point.

Since you mentioned ppg over the last three years. Over the last three years franzen has averaged .75 ppg. Yes he is streaky, we all know that. But there is no denying the production. Sure you can say he hasn't showed up in the playoffs, which is true, and he is "lazy" but his +/- would disagree with you as would just about every defensive status available. He may look disinterested and laid back, but what I see is a player babs has transformed to play defense first. His production is as high as it's ever been, and his defensive game is much better than everyone gives him credit for.

I would take franzen over Richards any day.

#2524982 Brad Richards bought out by Rangers

Posted by Euro_Twins on 20 June 2014 - 11:58 PM

Brad Richards age 34 - Contract remaining - 6 years with a cap hit of 6.67 Million a season
Johan Franzen age 34 - Contract remaining - 6 years with a cap hit of 3.95 million a season
New York Rangers Goal differential +25  
Brad Richards plus minus -8
Detroit Red Wings goal differential -8 
Johan Franzen plus minus +6
Brad Richards 24
Johan Franzen 66
Brad Richards 46
Johan Franzen 28
Brad Richards 49.8%
Johan Franzen 52.9%
Richards slightly outscored Franzen this year but was far worse defensively and he costs almost double what Franzen does. That's why one is employed and the other was paid to go away.

If franzenstein played 82 games like Richards he would have (pro rated) 11 points more and 4 goals more.