Pens D is significantly better than last year. Martin is 9 years younger and 10x better on D that Gonchar (maybe ever was). Gonchar's run has come to an end and Shero wisely chose to go in another direction (The Wings made a mistake bringing back Lidstrom for 6.2 mill, because he isn't worth it anymore.
Though I think Detroit has a great team, they are too inconsistent (I think because of how old they are getting). They put up 7 goals in a playoff game, then they can't find the back of the net in the next game. It will be tough to take on Chicago... In a 7 games series only two teams really match up against them (pens and wings)
Knock the pens all you want i'm just saying--- this ISN'T the detroit team from 3 years ago. (thank god because that was a scary fu***** team)
The wings D isn't EVEN CLOSE to the Pens D--- take your aging Rafalski's and Lidstrom--- Who in their right minds could argue that Detroit's D is better than Pittsburghs? This isn't 2007-08
Umm... Martin is not better than Gonchar. Not at all. The wings made a mistake bringing back Lidstrom? The greatest defensemen of all time? How is he not worth it anymore? He was 4th in Norris voting last year, and only because of a slow start and a depleted team did his point totals (minorly) drop.
No one is knocking the pens here. We're knocking your absurdly ignorant attempt at discussion in which you have neglected logic and facts every step of the way.
Literally every point you have posted thus far is the opposite of the truth. It seems like you have never watched a hockey game in your life as you have yet to post a single sentence that even resembles intelligent thought.
By the way, the Wings team last year that was soooo old and not even close to as good as the pens.... actually HAD MORE POINTS AT THE END OF THE SEASON than your Pens did.
Take off the goggles man, you're embarrassing yourself.
I'm strangely confident that the voids will be filled. No the depth won't be the same. But at the same time, with so many of the Hawks good players being so young, it would be strange not to expect a little improvement out of Kane, Hjallmarsson, Bolland and Toews. Bolland might be the guy to jump out the most this year. He seemed poised to jump out last year, then missed half the season with his back injury. He never seemed to be back healthy until the playoffs started. And IMO he deserved the Conn Smythe as much as anyone.
This article reads like it was written by a 12 year old. Did they even attempt to re-read it at least once to check for errors? Hate to nitpick but that is seriously some of the worst professional writing I have ever seen.
I know most of us read all the detroit papers but I hope it works out for Kindl, because no matter how you look at it wings eventually needs to get younger, and insert high end youth players to get nhl experience, because the lidstroms etc won't be here for much longer
omg we have more than one of him?!
No but really, Nill doesn't seem that high on him, rather that he is out of options and he hopes Kindl turns out well.
After a couple of solid seasons, the last few have been rather injury filled and below his normal level of play. Still, I think this is a great signing in terms of Risk Vs Reward. He won't hit 20 goals, but he can still be a solid thirdliner/decent pker on the Hawks, and would almost certainly be better than one of the other AHL scrubs.
Here's a link from an Oiler's columnist who also thinks this could be a minor steal.
Agreed. Hate to admit anything good about the Hawks, but this was a really smart move. I didn't even known Pisani was available. As mentioned, for 500k its a great signing based on his potential, and if he is hurt or sucks they can get rid of him easily enough.
Also its one last roster spot that would need to be filled by a rookie. Good move, but we still own the central.
Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m) Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m) / Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m) Igor Makarov ($0.552m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m) Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Jake Dowell ($0.525m) / Jack Skille ($0.600m)
But... but... Bickell is kind of big, therefore he is a perfect replacement for Byfuglien, and will have a Calder season. Jake Dowell and Versteeg have the same number of syllables in their last names, thus we can assume that Dowell is an adequate replacement as well. And Skille? Come on, that just SOUNDS awesome, I'm sure he'll be fine!!
The more important thing is that the Hawks have incredible goaltending to fall back on
We can laugh all we want.....if the Hawks beat our asses (not impossible) or finish higher in the standings, they'll be the ones laughing.
Ok... Do you think that is going to happen? If the islanders finish higher than us they'll be laughing too, what's your point?
IMO, the Lions have a better chance at winning the Stanley Cup next year than the Hawks do.
We've been one and done in the cap era too so far. Come on bro, you call that guy out for living in 2004 and then try to bring up our old championships from before the lockout but then go on to call them one and done?
We like to take pride in the hockey IQ Wings fans have over other fanbases but I read biased stuff like this all the time on here and it makes me wonder.
Uhh... nowhere did he mention the Wings past championships in that paragraph.
Also I just wanted to point out that the 3rd line is going to be a scoring line this year with Hudler whether it's Modano, Helm, Abdelkader or whoever else. Last year it was a AHL line. Everybody's numbers are going to be a lot better this season with a healthy team.
Now I really am going outside. I don't want to end up with 20,000 posts on a message board, that's just all kinds of sad. No offense.
Cute. Every single person has proved that your unsupported arguments are completely off base and nonsensical, and your last resort is to insult us for using the same message board that you yourself are arguing on? Define sad for me, please.
And Helm is going backwards? He has had ONE season in the NHL. Going backwards would mean going to the AHL, which he is not doing.
It might behoove you to put some thought into your posts before putting them up for the world to see, that way you wont have to resort to insulting people when they point out how intellectually bankrupt your opinions are.
Edit: Posting ESPN articles to support your arguments does very little to add any validity to your cause.