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#2494163 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Carman on 10 March 2014 - 09:31 PM

 

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Last year and the year before at any level. Not impressive no arguing that. Go look up Zetterberg, Backstrom, Johanson, and other top Swedes when they played at the same level at the same age. Not comparable. Please post a game by game for his last 36 in the AHL I would be curious to see it as I have not yet found it.

 

Kids? Is that more of you making things up to defend your case?

His play back a few years was impacted by his size, which is not a tremendous issue for him anymore. Jarnkrok is a great prospect, there really shouldn't be a need to try and downplay his talent. The whole situation comes down to several reasons that are largely just based on opinions,

Bad Trade:

1. You think this season is a loss already, and should have kept future potential.

2. You think Legwand is only going to play 20 games with the Red Wings and the Wings lost Jarnkrok for nothing.

3. You like Legwand, but are sold on Jarnkrok becoming a top line center.

 

Good Trade.

1. You like Legwand, and think the evidence is there that he will resign.

2. Wings filled an immediate need by giving up a player that wouldn't fill that need for years.

etc.

 

Personally I think Jarnkrok was a great prospect his play the last few months has been fantastic, he's great with the puck, his defense is very underrated, his skating is good, there isn't a negative about him other than he's not going out and hammering people into the boards, but I also felt the Wings need for a center for the present season, outweighed the risk of hoping the development of Jarnkrok a few years down the road.




#2493150 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Carman on 08 March 2014 - 11:34 AM

Feels kinda crappy to be hoping for a young kids career to be mediocre but I find myself doing it. LGW would be unbearable if he started lighting it up in the NHL

 

Nah, I hope he does well. Even if he becomes an all-star, it would still be a trade that needed to be done at the time. Legwand's importance to the team right now, was more than Jarnkrok's importance to our future, obviously our front office thinks that we have enough young talent(which I think we do, Nyquist/Tatar/Jurco/Sheahan/Pulkinnen/Mantha all look like they will be impact NHLers) that we could let go a promising prospect for a very good player right now. It's quite an achievement to become a point producing/defensive center like Legwand is, even if Jarnkrok becomes one, I'm confident we made the right move because we needed that kind of player now.




#2491710 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Carman on 06 March 2014 - 02:21 PM

Who gives a Crap about glendening he'll be out of the league within 5 yrs

Zetterberg dats and legwand are 33+ they don't have much time .... Very early but weiss has been a disaster and legwand could of probably been had July 1 would just did like Minnesota and thrown the 2 2nd rounders instead

You wanna trade janrkrok? Use him as a key piece in a deal to get the top 4 dman we wanted to get whether it be now or the off season not a 33 yr old ufa ..... Now if kenny gets in his panicky mood in the off season to get a dman say goodby to a Tatar/jurco/pulkkinen type prospect as well

At that point he should of done nothing ... Best moves sometimes are the ones you don't make .... Do we have a chance to a make it in the playoffs? Yes but let's be realistic and not delude ourselves our chances aren't very good and were more likely not to get in .... With legwand or without him

Hmm, our chances right now  are 52%, win tonight and it would be about 60%. Having Legwand playing the rest of the season drastically improves our chances of making the playoffs. And if we make the playoffs and get healthy we could be a very serious contender. There was no reason to waste this season of having Alfredsson, Datsyuk and Zetterberg, that would be a mistake. Worst case scenario is we miss the playoffs this year, get healthy next year and become a very legitimate threat in the eastern conference with our strong center depth. If our team is healthy we have a very good team.

 

I think there is more to be gained to improve our chances at making the playoffs this year, and most likely the next few years to come during Datsyuk and Zetterberg's prime, than risk losing a prospect that wouldn't have made an impact on the team for at least a couple more seasons. Legwand improves our team now, and will be a better NHL player during Datsyuk/Zetterberg's prime than Jarnkrok.

 

Just in case you are wondering where i got the chances for playoffs http://www.sportsclu...ts.com/NHL.html




#2491678 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Carman on 06 March 2014 - 01:10 PM

Seriously. He basically said that Glendening>Jarnkrok

 

Which he probably is right now. Glendening is playing a 4th line grinder role better than Jarnkrok could. Jarnkrok has very good two way play, and would be a much better point producer, but the jump from the AHL to the NHL for a top 6 forward is a lot larger and harder than for a 4th line penalty killer. I don't want to say Jarnkrok couldn't bang in the corners and kill penalties I actually think his defensive game is very underrated, but that is not where he's going to make his mark in the NHL. While he's playing well in the AHL, I doubt the Red Wings or Nashville will call him up right now, plug him in on the second line, give him 2 minutes of powerplay time and 16 minutes a night especially if they want to make the playoffs. He's not ready yet, another off season of strength conditioning and he might be ready.




#2491211 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Carman on 05 March 2014 - 06:44 PM

Okay but I rather pay vanek 5-7 mill than pay leg wand 3.5-4.5 mill...

 

Doesn't help us at the center position.

 

Legwand isn't just a normal trade deadline rental, he's waived his NTC to come here, he's from the area, he doesn't have a history of jumping teams and he's very likely to seek out a deal with the Red Wings. Legwand is a very solid pick up, good for at least .50 ppg(.65ppg this year), He's a stanley cup caliber 3rd line center that can effect every facet of the game well, he's good killing penalties(hasn't done much of that this season with the acquisition of Gaustad), powerplay, and even strength.

 

Losing Jarnkrok hurts, but i don't think it's as egregious of a move as others are thinking. Our prospect pool is still strong, and we needed to make moves that make us better the next couple years with Z/Datsyuk getting older, I'm pretty confident in saying Jarnkrok would not help the team as much as Legwand would the next few years.




#2430185 Brendan Smith signs 2-year, $2.525m contract with Red Wings

Posted by Carman on 15 July 2013 - 03:28 PM

Good price and term, win for both sides. Smith should earn a much bigger contract in two years.




#2425845 Grabovski Bought Out

Posted by Carman on 04 July 2013 - 01:08 PM

He's a good player, was overpaid. For the right deal he would be a good option for us. Also thinking of seeing him play well against Toronto and seeing the fans reaction would set this rivilary in motion quickly.


#2425020 Red Wings won't pursue David Clarkson

Posted by Carman on 02 July 2013 - 07:22 PM

I really want Clarkson, but no way I'm giving him a long term deal at that high of price. He's never scored more than 60 points in any league, he should not get elite money and term.




#2420865 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by Carman on 19 June 2013 - 06:21 PM

I really like Filpulla and think his numbers don't really tell the story on the type of player he is, but there is no way in the world I'd go over 4, and I'm a huge fan of his game.

 

I'm not going to flip out over rumors just yet, we all want to be paid, and there is a argument he is worth 5+ million the year before with his 60+ points and defensive prowess, it's not something I agree with, but he at least has had a season where his numbers would be deserving of it. I'd certainly let another team enjoy his game for that much though.




#2420263 Visors Required - New NHL Players in '13-'14

Posted by Carman on 17 June 2013 - 12:32 PM

 

because we are talking about perfectly trained adults here, they are the players and I would guess that they now exactly what is best for them and what is not.

 

Which is why as a whole the players agreed to implement the new rule about visors.




#2418282 Visors Required - New NHL Players in '13-'14

Posted by Carman on 06 June 2013 - 11:50 PM


 
 
It's not fun to be in Marian Hossa's shoes where you're high stick caused the end of someone's career, it can have a traumatic effect on how you go on in life. If a simple rule can cut down on those situations I don't see the big deal about it.


#2404441 Official Franzen VS Hossa

Posted by Carman on 14 May 2013 - 02:03 PM

I'm a huge Hossa fan, I think he's one of if not the best winger in the game considering his two way play. But I understand where the Wings were at that time, I really would have preferred both of them, but there is no way that was possible at the time, and the only way it seems possible now is the sudden Rafalski retirement.

 

Franzen was a home grown guy that just exploded in the playoffs, there is no way in the world a team would let him go.




#2401895 WCQF Game 6 GDT : Ducks 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT) - (Series Tied 3-3)

Posted by Carman on 10 May 2013 - 10:03 PM

Zetterberg can't do a damn thing offensively


Nice call.


#2400954 Alberta Peewee Hockey Bans Body Checking

Posted by Carman on 10 May 2013 - 12:07 PM

Kids don't want to learn how to check at that age for the most part(meaning checking properly, they obviously want to hit). Their skillset is undeveloped, and taking checking out of the game until they have a solid grasp and the cognitive ability to understand when, how and why bodychecking is allowed in the NHL I completely agree with Alberta's decision. All it takes is one kid to not know the skill to make an huge negative impact. Even if 95% of the kids could hit properly, there is still going to be situations where checking from behind, elbows etc. get up because the kid doesn't understand the consequences of the play. That's not even mentioning the fact that even legal checks can severely hurt a young player. There is still a lot to teach kids about the game, teach them to be strong on the skates along the boards, teach them how to protect the puck, teach them how to cycle, just because you can't lay someone out doesn't mean you can't teach the player to be strong on the puck during battles and to protect themselves.

 

I understand that some want kids to learn how to protect themselves at a young age, but in my opinion that's like letting a kid drive a car immediately off the lot and just let him learn as they go, putting other people and themselves in danger. There is a reason in society that responsibilities have to earned over time, and I don't see why hockey should be any different. Kids hitting each other put them at more risk, because their mind and body is still developing, and concussions can happen from perfectly legal checks. I don't see why any parent would be against this, but then again I'm just a 23 year old.




#2398811 Samuelsson on the top line tonight - god help us all !

Posted by Carman on 07 May 2013 - 11:14 AM

The best part was in the post game interview babs said Sammy looked good out there, I listened to the game on 97.1 (the radio announcer is the absolute worst) cause I was at work, but from the replays I saw Sammy didn't look all that great out there

 

Sammy played his perimeter, safe game. He wasn't 'bad', but he's a depth scorer that's it. He's good along the boards, won some battles, didn't turn the puck over too much, skated hard.

 

I'll say this though, Samuelsson looked better than Bobby Ryan last night.