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#2007391 Versteeg a Leaf

Posted by edicius on 30 June 2010 - 09:46 PM

He never said they were done trading.



True, true, the article says he wouldn't rule out any more trades. But the implication of the article was that they didn't need to shed any more salary, which wasn't true.

#2006366 Jarnkrok (2nd pick, 51st overall)

Posted by johanlake on 28 June 2010 - 08:59 PM

Here's a short video I made, it's all his points in SEL.

#2004889 2010 NHL Draft Thread

Posted by dirtydangles on 25 June 2010 - 08:51 PM

i do not approve. shoulda taken a russian with skill.

#2000834 Bertuzzi Signs 2 Year Deal

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 17 June 2010 - 03:01 PM

Eric Nystrom + an extra million to spend at the trade deadline >>>>>>>>>> Bert
Winchester, Pyatt, Asham, Malhotra, Miller, maybe Comrie, Higgins, or Tanguay...

Good chance all of them sign for less, some significantly less so we could save a good chunk for the deadline.

There's still room to bring in a physical 4th line player. Bert's cap hit didn't take that away. Not to mention the fact that

- Winchester: Career High 21 points...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Pyatt: 23 points last season and 19 the one before...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Asham: Hasn't scored more than 24 points in the past 7 years...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Malhotra: Has never scored more than 35 points his entire career...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Miller: Completely different type of player (who Kenny still could re-sign anyway).....meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Comrie: Hasn't played more than 43 games per season the past 3 years and only once in the past 6 years has he played more than that. Now he's a year older and more brittle.
- Higgins: Currently earns $2.25 million *per* and hasn't played a full season the past 3 years...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.
- Tanguay: Cap hit of $2.5 million...meaning not greater or less than but more importantly *not equal* too Bertuzzi.

this is exactly the answer to the several people that say there was no better option. to me it stems from holland saying he wanted another 4th line drake type player. with bertuzzi back, all of a sudden you have another roster spot unavailable. i would much rather see someone like nystrom brought in over bertuzzi and then that would still gives spots to guys like eaves and miller. i was not totally against bringing bert back, but certainly not for the cap hit he now has. that severely limits the wings this year and next year. as has been mentioned, you have guys like lidstrom and holmstrom taking discounts, then you have bert getting a raise even though he has said he would take less to stay in detroit? in the cap era it is all about having players outperform their contract. Z & D did that for several years before their big deals kicked in. currently, other than howard, do we really have any 'value' contracts? sure our top end guys have manageable hits thanks to their super long deals, but its hard to say anyone is a 'value' contract when their hit is 5-7 million.

...and why is it Bert's responsibility to be a "value" contract?

#1996423 The right way to be a prospect of the Wings

Posted by Lidstromboli on 08 June 2010 - 05:25 PM

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#1987297 Jimmy Howard has championship skills

Posted by RedWings on 19 May 2010 - 04:45 PM

Wings were dominated by SJ in the goaltending area.
Howard was solid in round 1, but totally outplayed by Nabokov in round 2.

With a championship goaltender, the wings would be right now en route for the cup finals.

#1982671 Howard injured?

Posted by nate94gt on 10 May 2010 - 11:25 AM

A gash to his five-hole from what I could tell.

i laughed

#1982670 Howard injured?

Posted by ChrisM on 10 May 2010 - 11:23 AM

A gash to his five-hole from what I could tell.

#1978433 WCSF Game 4 GDT: Sharks 1 at Red Wings 7

Posted by eva unit zero on 06 May 2010 - 08:23 PM

Congrats youf****** plug

Come on, you can't really expect Howard to stop a shot from 25-30 feet away that he has a complete and total view of and has cut off quite a bit of the angle already? Seriously, you don't HONESTLY expect any goaltender to stop a shot like that right? He had about 1/4 second to react, which is basically what a shortstop has to react on a line drive on your average high school team or a decent beer league team. Hopefully Howie plays catcher or outfield on his ball team, right?

Well, Howard HAS given up three or four like that so far this run, so clearly it must be pretty damn hard to stop.

#1978330 WCSF Game 4 GDT: Sharks 1 at Red Wings 7

Posted by eva unit zero on 06 May 2010 - 08:01 PM

howard is a cool cucumber. i hope he continues his great progress.

Yep, if it wasn't for Howard the game would probably be tied 2-2 right now.

Actually, at least with the 6-0 lead we can survive all the softies Howard is going to give up in the third, so we'll win 6-3 or 6-4.


#1977546 Don't blame Howard.. blame Babcock

Posted by interminded on 06 May 2010 - 02:17 PM

Detroit Red Wings' goalie situation tied to Mike Babcock

I totally agree.
Babcock eliminated the term 'backup'
Now, there is none.

Thanks Mike.

#1973967 No Worries

Posted by mindfly on 04 May 2010 - 04:25 PM

Looks like I'm still crushing Mindfly in the red number contest. :cool:

I think I will pass you if wings lose tonight, i doubt there will be any mercy left... :scared: :ph34r:

#1972197 Put Ozzy in.

Posted by eva unit zero on 03 May 2010 - 08:47 AM

yeah,put ozzie in,howard had 'only' 41 saves last night

It's not how many saves you make. It's when and how you make them. Howard gave up two soft goals in the final 15:20, killing the Wings' momentum. The first let the Sharks tie the game, and gave them much more life. This put the Wings back on their heels as the Sharks increased their attack. Howard gave up another bad goal with only 7:23 remaining, putting the Sharks into a 4-3 lead with little time left in the game.

41 saves doesn't matter if he allows soft, game-changing goals at two pivotal moments of the third period. He could have made 100 saves and it wouldn't matter if he allowed those two goals and it changed the lead and won San Jose the game.

As a goaltender, he should assume the most goal support he's going to get is 2-3 goals. If he allows 2 s***ty goals, he better be perfect the rest of the game. While he played well, he wasn't. Especially considering he was more than once saved by a teammate (VS once even called "Great save Howard" for a shot when Howard was flat on his back and the shot hit a kneeling Z in the logo) so there could have been even more bad goals to rant about.

Bad goals at bad times are about the worst thing a goalie can give up, and Howard has given up more than a few this playoff run. The offense has come through for him a few times to cover that up, but it can't be there all the time. No team scores 4-5 goals every game... unless they're playing Howard the way he has played most of the playoffs.

#1971708 Put Ozzy in.

Posted by HockeyCoach13 on 02 May 2010 - 10:08 PM

Howard obviously doesnt have enough experience to face San Jose which is a more veteran type team. last year i believe ozzy was the best goalie in the playoffs with the best goals against ratio, somewhere around 1.88 or something? i dont remember. the point is howard just isnt ready for this veteran team, we need to put in our veteran goalie. please. everyone knows the last two goals scored by SJ was howards fault.

anyone agree


The first and third goals howard let in were pretty bad. if we are going to win four straight games i dont see it happening with a rookie goalie. go with our veteran goalie. especially from how howard has been playing against the sharks, i mean he has made a few good saves at times but he let in soft goals at the wrong times.

#1971623 WCSF Game 2 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Sharks 4

Posted by eva unit zero on 02 May 2010 - 09:57 PM

The entire team, save Howard (no pun intended) have been horrible tonight.

I would have said Howard was the biggest reason the game went from 3-2 Wings to 4-3 Sharks...

Both of the last two goals were weak goals that were directly his fault.

1) He came out of the crease to stop a shot as the Sharks were crashing the net, and dropped to the ice while giving up a rebound that the other team quickly acquires. Now he's outside the crease and unable to get back into position quickly while the puck is in possession of the opposing team. He doesn't, of course, end up getting back in net before the puck crosses the line.

2) He moved to the edge of the crease along the goal line stop a shot off the wing and rather than directing the rebound back to the corner or absorbing the shot, he put the rebound into the slot where there were two Sharks forwards. Empty net, goal.

You can make excuses, but those two goals were Howard's fault and nobody else's. This is simply following an unnerving trend where Howard has allowed 3-5 goals in almost every game he's played so far, with at least two of those goals being goals he is directly responsible for.