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#2379930 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 03 April 2013 - 08:48 PM

For every one saying Holland lacked the "balls" to do anything, I've already posted this but:

“We offered some of (prospects). At the end of the day someone didn’t like them as much as we do or they liked someone else’s players better.”

 

He made an effort to acquire someone. Other teams outbid him. Maybe it's not a matter of him not making an effort, but a matter of our prospects not being viewed as highly as someone else's? If Holland moved Nyquist, Mrazek and a 1st and 2nd to get Pominville, would you be happy? I'd be pissed off.




#2379811 Shocking, Wings aren't active as trade deadline expires

Posted by Echolalia on 03 April 2013 - 05:33 PM

There are only a few ways to get players onto a hockey team.  Draft them, acquire them through free agency, pick them up off waivers, trade for them.  Only one of these options requires you lose something (RFA also I suppose, but that's still a rarity in this league).  The salary cap makes draft picks, prospects, and roster players that much more valuable, so trades are that much less desirable an option to collect players for your team.  I understand that its frustrating to get your hopes up every trade deadline expecting to land some star, but in today's hockey league its more important than ever to be economic.  That means developing your talent, holding onto your picks, and making big roster changes through free agency, not through trades.  Its boring, but its also a smart way to go.

 

I'm in the minority which believes Holland did not make a mistake this deadline by not making any moves.




#2379836 Shocking, Wings aren't active as trade deadline expires

Posted by Echolalia on 03 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

again..fine.  But be a seller then. 

 

Why?  Despite leading the league in man games lost, we are in a playoff spot right now, there's no need to blow up the team.  Committing your team to selling off your assets is the last option that any GM should think of, and will likely get anyone fired when they're not even bottom dwellers.  There's a lot of money to be had in postseason tickets, memorabilia, tv deals, etc which is ultimately what makes owners tick.




#2378638 Stars trade Jaromir Jagr to Bruins

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 02 April 2013 - 12:18 PM

It's not so much the fact that he didn't get him. It's the fact that there's a really big chance holland will make 0 moves. All year other teams have no problem doing it. We have a deep prospect pool

How many of the trades made would you want the Wings to make? I like Regehr, but I don't see how he would fit with the current D. Other than that trade, I don't think any of the trades made would have been the difference for the Wings this year, next year, etc. If Clowe and/or Gabby are traded for reasonable prices, it will be different IMO.

 

Making a move for the sake of making a move isn't what the Wings need. A move should only be made if it improves the team this year and in the coming years.




#2377845 Holland: "We don't need depth...Need a top guy"

Posted by kipwinger on 01 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

Gaborik and Cammalleri are probably the best options.

 

Agreed on Gaborik but not necessarily with Cammalleri.  I'd definitely take Cammy, he's a good scorer, but his stat line is almost exactly the same as Pominville's, they're the same size, both their contracts are through next season, Cammy makes 700k more, and he's noticeably worse on defense. 

 

I guess it would come down  to the asking price, if Cammy could be had for less then I'd go that route, if Pominville is cheaper then that's what I'd do. 




#2376409 Crosby left the game after puck to the face

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 March 2013 - 01:24 PM

Edited the thread title to be less obnoxious.

 

I understand not liking Crosby, but celebrating that he got hit in the face with the puck is lame.




#2376132 Wings sign D Dan DeKeyser to 2-year deal

Posted by Crymson on 29 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

Just like addition of Hossa....

C'mon Deke-kid is die hard Detroit fan... This was easy work for Kenny.

 

 

It doesn't make sense, the idea that when things don't go well with free agents, it's Holland's his fault, but when things go right with free agents, it's not Holland but instead other factors. He was the one who got this done, with numerous other GMs trying as well.

 

Anyway, good signing, good for the team.



Us is meant as in the Red Wings organization. Please do not turn a good thing into something bad.

 

Apologies.




#2373551 3/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Coyotes 2

Posted by FlashyG on 25 March 2013 - 12:07 AM

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I spoke with Hockeytown0001 and I am filling in for his usual fantastic GDT work for tonights game as he is helping with his Mom's father who could pass any day now. Best wishes to him and his family. I hope he's back posting his work soon.

 

Lets Go Wings.




#2370662 Holland with Micky/Kenny...

Posted by evilzyme on 18 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

I saw the interview and mentioned in during the GDT when it had happened. I think he brought up his normal, what's he's been discussing recently, stuff up and elaborated alittle. I said this in the GDT also, and someone made reference of it, but I don't think it got enough attention. Abby is playing the role Bert has for Pasha, that's why Pasha loves it. I really think Pavel is missing Bert because he does what Abby does, and produces it while doing so. I can see Bert and Pavel having that weird connection witin the locker room and having that friendship bond. Bert is stern, to himself, and has his joking side. Pavel is quiet, to himself, and has his joking side. They love shootouts, mimic each others moves, and try to one up each other. They've had numerous celebration hugs together and generally look to be a little man couple. Bert produces with Pavel, and does a good job while doing it. That's why Pavel likes Abby, at least in my opinion.

 

Holland is completely right about everything he's said this season. Separation in the standings is what is going to cause trade deadline activity, unfortunately there isn't much because there isn't separation within the standings. He wants to be a buyer, not a seller come deadline time. Acquiring Helmer before the deadline is the best move they can logically make right now, and that's the truth. There is 0 moves out there, or better moves, like getting Helmer back. I agree with Babcock when he labels Helmer has the best 3rd line center in this league, or atleast in my opinion top 3. There ISN'T a move better than acquiring one of the best 3rd line centers in this league, with nothing coming out of it within your end. We acquire an outstanding bottom 6 center, while doing nothing to our pipeline. You can't beat that.

 

For all the Sammy hate, I still don't understand it. He's played in all of 3 games this season. The first 2 games of the season, which everyone and their mother was horrible in and then when he returned from his injury. I still don't know a player who could possibly come into a season, play in mid-season form, get injured and and then magically come into the season "mid-season" form. The guy hasn't even STARTED his season yet. He hasn't gotten his legs under neath him. I don't care who you are, you sure aren't going to play mid-season form within the first 2 games. Then you get injured, and come back (people magically think he's going to be mid-season form from that injury) play a single game and get injured again. We can't even evaluate how he's going to be within this system. 




#2365774 Should Visors Be Mandatory In The NHL

Posted by Konnan511 on 06 March 2013 - 03:59 PM

Visors should be mandatory for all players entering the league. They're already use to them. There is not a single valid argument of why they shouldn't be mandatory. Players use to be against helmets, but sometimes you need to protect played from themselves.


#2359906 2/23 GDT : Nashville Predators 0 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 23 February 2013 - 08:09 PM

C'mon boys let's make it 3!




#2359859 2/23 GDT : Nashville Predators 0 at Red Wings 4

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 23 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

Why does Babcock still have two handicapped children playing on Datsyuk's line?   




#2351893 2/5 GDT : Flames 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by dat's sick on 06 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

Tatar had a really good game. Shame he was 'rewarded' with being demoted to the 3rd line. Guessing he'll be sent down while Cleary is put in the top 6? Lol. 

 

Zetterberg's back must be hurting from carrying around the team night after night. A Zetterberg shift is usually a good shift for us. Problem is the other 3 shifts suck, with the occasional good Datsyuk shift. In all honesty Dats should have had a goal or two on those 2 big chances he had, if either had gone in it could have been a different game.

 

Getting tired of special teams dragging us down. Can't keep letting in 2-3 PK goals per game. Can't keep taking stupid penalties. Cleary, Quincey, Kronwall, I'm looking at you guys. 

 

PP is still an embarressment. Fluke goal tonight off a broken play, but otherwise it's not even giving us momentum. 

 

Why didn't Babs play Mrazek tonight? I'm not blaming this one Howard, but the guy needs a rest already. Is there another goalie in the league that has played every game so far? It would be okay to play him every game if it was giving results, but right now there's no point riding Howie 'til he breaks down. 

 

Hoping for a better effort next time. 




#2348177 Brunner Equals Clutch/Work on Signing *merged

Posted by T.Low on 28 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

Am I joking about what? Helm is our best bottom six guy and duh penalty killer too. Calling him a great two forward isn't really accurate. He can't finish. He's better defensively than offensively. Bert is the opposite. Hence when I quoted you, you said we have plenty of two way forwards on this team. I disagree with you on that. Opinion of course.

 

 

 

Agree with you about Helmer, of course.

 

Disagree with you about Bertuzzi.  Totally. 

 

Bert is a smart forechecker, gives a lot of effort to get that big slow(ish) body back on the backchecks, has  great stick work,  can see plays before they develop which allows him to get into passing lanes, can lay the body and play the body, and can shut down.  Even Babs has talked about how Berts defensive game is truely great, having totally morphed since coming to Detroit.  Not to mention that with his years of experince in the league, he's seen a lot of everyone in the league and knows everyone's strenghts and weaknesses and tendencies.

 

It's a Brunner thread, so I'm going to refrain from getting into how underrated and under valued Bert is by so many o LGW.




#2345567 Everyone chill out!

Posted by wingsfan4795 on 23 January 2013 - 06:03 PM

Looks like Holland was right.  We are in the Seth Jones sweepstakes.  

Hard to do without a first round pick!

People need to calm down. Since the first game, defense hasn't been a problem. I've actually been pretty impressed with both our defense and Jimmy Howard. It's our offense that isn't getting it done so far. I don't view that as a problem because we all know they can score. Once our forwards start picking it up and burying their chances, I think we'll be in pretty good shape.

Until then just calm down. Its only been 3 games