Carman

Per Eklund: (posting it for the lawlz) On Brian Campbell...

He is another who may stay put, but I was told if Detroit can move some salary out in time they would be all over Brian Campbell

 

Yikes I would find Kenny and immediately vomit on him if that happens.

Gaborik and Cammalleri are probably the best options.

 

I'll give you Gaborik, but in no world is Cammalleri a better option than Pominville. Pominville produces more points, and is a much better two way player. Not mention cheaper, and right handed.

Pominville is exactly not what this team needs.

 

What should the red wings do? What better option is there? Come on, I understand Bouwmeester, but this one is a no brainer.

 

I mean Pominville is about as consistent of point producer that there is. He's a good player. Our top 6 is trash right now, not to mention he's a right handed shot.

The Wings have no realistic chance at the cup this season. The lack of scoring depth, the defense looking lost in some games, and Howard not being an elite goalie all add up to the Wings being bounced early if they even make the playoffs.

Ok then trade everyone of value.

We either go all in or not. We can play well, we are just inconsistent. If you want them to be sellers and then force a rebuild that we likely not make us a contender until after datsyuk retires I understand. But I'd rather try and make this team better, I really don't think that we have no chance. I think we have a chance, not a good one, but the potential is there.

He has functionally zero chance of being a "big part" of any answer this season.

 

I just don't understand the hate on Nyquist getting 12 minutes a game to be an answer. Throw him up on the top lines like they did with Hagelin in New York and you'll see him produce(His points per minute is actually higher than Hagelin's fyi). I can't prove it, but I really think it would happen. The guy has too much skill not to be a factor when given the chance.

 

His potential is still there, and there is no telling the ceiling on this guy. He can still be an elite player, he's only 23 and has barely played a full season of AHL/NHL hockey

 
It was game 4s. Two against Columbus, two against Anaheim, two against Chicago.
 
And that was the entirety of his scoring.


 
Datsyuk was playing with a badly injured foot, and Holmstrom had major groin problems.

And hossa was playing with a bum shoulder that required surgery. But that's not important because it doesn't fit your argument.

"It's a center-only trophy" is an empty argument. If any wingers were good enough to win the award, they'd win it. As things stand, Selke winners tend to be centers because those centers happen to be the best defensive forwards in the game. When people talk about the Selke, they speak of the likes of Datsyuk, Kesler, Toews, Richards, as so on. Hossa isn't mentioned, because he's not as good on defense as they are.

 

I've watched plenty of games that Hossa has played in. He is an excellent backchecker and he's hard on the puck when others have it, but those are only two aspects of defense.

 

Can you name some Wingers that are better defensively than him? We aren't comparing Hossa with Datsyuk and other Selke winners, we're comparing Hossa to Franzen. And it's not even close to who is a better two-way player. Hossa is an awesome player and his effect on the game isn't limited to his production. Which is why he would be worth the higher contract. That's all I'm trying to say.

I'm not worried. It's not a lack of effort, he just needs to learn the game. His talent is there, he is a great skater, and the shot is top notch. He's also better than I thought he would be passing the puck.

 

He just over thinks the game too much, and he makes some really bad decisions defensively. He is really raw when it comes to that part of the game, but he has never stopped skating or anything like that. So I definitely think his game will develop with time. Once he starts to understand the game he'll create more offensive opportunities for himself by creating turnovers.

 

His hot start had a lot to do with everyone around him playing well, once Zetterberg fell off he's game went right with him. And Brunner's not at the level yet where he can create his own scoring chances.

 

The good news is he won't get a big deal, that kinda scared me in the beginning of the year when he was close to the goal scoring lead. Now hopefully we sign him to a couple year deal, and have a steal of a player once his game develops.

Let me simplify for you, if I ask you the "score" from the Pens/Isles game today would you say 6-0?  I mean assists is "scoring" right? 

 

esteef

 

"score" Is a general term of assists, and goals.

 

Or are the people that describe the Art Ross wrong?

Aw, more victim talk.  How cute.  Here's some insight, when people refer to the "points leader" they actually say "points leader".  It's a general concept, not an absolute one.  Hopefully it's not too difficult for you to grasp.

 

esteef

 

This is so pointless.

 

My context was "scoring leader" as in leading the league in points.

 

The art ross is given to the

 

player who leads the League in scoring points at the end of the regular season

 

Is it that difficult to grasp? Is it that big of a sin that I didn't say "point scoring leader". Do people really only attribute scoring to goals and not points? Or are you just trying to run around in circles and argue meaningless things?

I don't believe you should spend that much money in the cap era for a goal scoring specialist. You need your best players to be versatile, Ovechkin is a dynamic goal scorer, and I would love him on my team for maybe 6-7 million. But 9.5 takes away a very solid player. I'd take Kronwall+Filpulla over Ovechkin any day.

 

If Ovechkin can ever get back to a 60 goal pace, then he might be worth that, but right now he is just a very good player.

1st, Ouellet, Nyquist or Tatar, Carlo or White, Emmerton

I'd do it. 

 

They might want more, I have no idea what their needs are though. But I think we can afford to let some prospects go. I really wouldn't touch Sproul, Mrazek, or Jarnkrok. And I wouldn't want to lose both Nyquist or Tatar. But everyone else I might be able to let go, especially for someone that can contribute for several more seasons.

Well good thing we have the best OHL defenseman, best college defenseman, leading scorer in the AHL waiting in the wings. It could be worse.

Leopold is a solid player, nothing fancy or anything. But should help. Probably an improvement over Redden. But I don't get to see much of the blues.

Good for him. Hopefully he does well in Philly. He does his job well.