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Hudler was tied for 159th in forward scoring, but 233rd in ice time. Defensively, e was equal to or better than most forwards finishing with similar scoring numbers. There are 30 teams, and three forwards per line. Teams generally dress two as scoring lines. So finishing in the top 180 (30 x 6) means the player is a "top-six" forward in the league, 159th being a second line forward. But Hudler's rank of 233rd in ice time would place him as having been a third-line forward. So offensively, he produced above what his ice time suggested he should have. If he had ranked in the same range of scoring as his ice time, he would have scored about 25 points.

It's not the year he had in 2008-09, but it's not the terrible performance that LGW haters make it out to be.

Man you are really reaching aren't you? Hudler will have another mediocre year and possibly be part of a deal at the deadline.

The most amazing thing about that video is pb the scroll at the bottom says Joey Harrington threw for 309 yds and 2 tds.  I honestly think I remember that game cuz he didn't have many like that.

I don't understand this post

This is a joke right?
Florida has done this for years, buy players, it won't work.
There has never been a owner of the Panthers that actually cares about winning a NHL game.
It's sell, sell, sell.....they want to sellout crowds of people, not even fans, like a carnival and sell jacked up merchandise and beer.
It's tough love, but the business model of developing high 1st round picks and then trading them for lower picks and more vets/cap relief has got to change if they want to be taken serious.
" The Blueprint continues..." that was their slogan, I just think that's sad, like, management says, we have a team but from game one even we don't believe in them.
These moves may make the team more watchable, but I don't see how filling out your team with 1/3(arguably the worst 1/3) of a championship team from 2 seasons ago makes you a contender.

This is a team that drafted Jovo, went to the Cup in his Rookie season then dumped him in his prime for Pavel Bure, who could score but was poison for the team.
They took a chance on Luongo after NYI had failed and when he develops, BLAM, traded, again, to Vancouver for Alex Auld....Alex Auld.
Bouwmeester is a perfect example of what happens, the team doesn't care about winning so the players leave or have to be traded for assets that are already under contract.

There are way more examples, but just this has given me a headache, to think that it will change is silly.
Tallon has to be in some basement somewhere scheming on how he can package Booth and Weiss for Byfuglien, better yet, Crawford.

I don't think they actually want to trade thosr players, they just simply can't afford them. Look at the Indians in baseball, do you think they wanted to trade cc, cliff lee, and victor martinez? No they simply were too good for a small market team to afford so rather than lose them in free agency, you get what u can in a trade.

Put number 30  in the rafters, the guy deserves it. After all the criticism he gets, he os still one of the few guys with 400 wins.

Im just hoping for a 2002 style 7-0 ass whoopin in game 7, i cant take another close game.

It's completely stupid. The players are the ones suffering for this, the owners and gm's who signed the stupid ass contract in the first place are the ones who should suffer. I'm so tired of seeing guys I know could help other teams have their careers end because gm's over pay.

Yeah I know someone's going to come in here and say something silly like "it's the players own fault" but honestly if you know you're worth a million and a Gm offers three would YOU turn it down?

I don't think you can blame the owners or gm, blame the agents for demanding so much money . Or blame the players union for jacking up salaries.

Though I really don't think its anybody's fault other than the damn CBA, get rid of the salary cap now, what a shame to see quality players  wasted like this

The league wouldn't work real well if players were allowed to play wherever they wanted for whomever they wanted for any amount of money they wanted. Try looking at the bigger picture.

you mean kind of like the MLB? I dont think we need to argue which league is doing better right now.

Maybe he's just considering his options, consulting with his family, and making a decision about where the best place is for all concerned at this point.

You guys make such a big deal about him consulting his wife.  Hey, guys, we gals need to be included in huge decisions like where to move to.  We have responsibilities and we need to know what our new surroundings will be like.

I mean, really- suppose you moved to a new town, got a new job that came with 20+ new friends, and you invited them all over to your house for supper and your wife couldn't get you all a beer because she didn't know where the store was.  Wouldn't you feel silly then?  I bet you would!  It is your manly duty to make sure that the wife has a comfortable kitchen and convenient grocery/liquor shopping in the event of the aforementioned scenario.

If I had three or more job offers sitting on the table, all of which involved moving to a new place, you can bet I'd take my time to be sure it was the right decision.

Life's a little different when you're a professional athlete. He already spends a LOT of time away from home no matter where he is playing. One year of him playing in Detroit isnt gonna change their families lives a whole lot.

Agreed.  Maltby's time is over, but if it's a 2 way deal he gets to stay with the organization, the organization gets to stay loyal to a warrior for the franchise, and we can still use him if need be, which is unlikely.

All hinging, of course, on whether Maltby is willing to play in the AHL, which I'm not sure he is.  I'm sure he appreciates the effort Holland is making, but he must see the writing on the wall. And he DOES have hockey left in him at the NHL level...but he can't crack the Wings lineup anymore.  But on a team like Edmonton or the Islanders, no problem.  If he wants to stay in the NHL he'll probably reject the Wings offer, which also works out for everyone.

has nobody read the multiple posts in this thread about how 2-way deals work?

man i cant help but feel happy for Hossa

this really isnt a big deal, and i dont get why some people are feeling betrayed or soemthing.  It happens all the time in sports. I'll probably get shot for saying this, but please people, stop actign like Steve Yzerman was a god or something. he didnt turn this franchise around by himself, in fact i think Lidstrom deserves more credit than Stevie.

Dont get me wrong, he was a huge part of it and was a great leader of the franchise.

this is kinda ridiculous really, just becasue he's part fo another organization now it doesnt mean it diminishes what he did for the wings. Thats like saying Chicago Bulls fans shouldnt wear MJ jerseys simply because he finished his career with the wizards.

I think we can admit that Finnish wing was right. Ville didnt have any confidence playing with the wings and it showed. Maybe Babcocks constant calling him out just didnt motivate Ville the way it would other guys, probably just made the situation worse actually.

I think Ville/Babcock just werent a great Player/coach match .

i didnt see any slew foot, and not really much of a slash