Buppy, I think you're reading way too much into my word choice. But the way you're reading it is not at all what I meant, and I'm pretty sure anyone else wouldn't have read it that way either. I'm hyping the guy up and saying he's exactly what we need, but he can't Crack Winnipeg's top 4...? Really? So what about all the times I've said that Jurco is buried on the 4th line. Did you take that as me saying he's not very important to us? No I'm saying he's down there and he shouldn't be...
Regardless, I think we agree on his value, and it sounds like we'd both like to make a trade for him.
Yeah, I don't want to drag this out much more, but come on. If someone were to tell you that player x is "playing third pair minutes" and "can't crack the top 4", where would you assume that player ranks on the team in ice time? What range do you think he'd be in league-wide? I'm guessing you wouldn't say "3rd by a small margin" and "low-60s".
Fact is, he's been on the top pair about as often as the bottom, and the ice-time he gets is low-top/high-2nd pair range.
Jurco isn't a good comparison. He is on the 4th line, 12th in ice-time for our current active roster, 16th for all forwards this year. And he is completely unimportant to the team. Just about as irrelevant as a player can be, really.
It's more like saying Larkin is buried on our 2nd-line. Or maybe Tatar buried on the third, except that's actually accurate in terms of ice time.