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#2684716 Ryspayev Should Be Banned.. Disgusting.

Posted by Wings_Toledo on 12 August 2016 - 09:43 AM

Anyone have another link to the vid? The original YouTube video was removed.

#2674226 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by jfranzen on 28 April 2016 - 01:48 PM


#2674225 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by Wingnut1989 on 28 April 2016 - 01:48 PM

Little Ceasers Pizzarena!

#2671952 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Aethernum on 20 April 2016 - 05:02 PM

I agree with you to a degree, though I would call the "core" Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa and Crawford. (you could even argue Hjalmarsson as well)
Though, I think having just those 6 alone is not good enough to win a cup, but when put with good depth, and great coaching they become elite. If you had just those 6 and then pure crap, I couldn't see them winning 3 cups. Hell, if Crawford, and Neimi (first cup) didnt play well during their runs, and there is a chance that they have 0 cups right now.
My point is, I agree that their core is the main reason for their cups, and I agree that our aging core is a huge factor in our decline. But, depth does matter. If it didn't, Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, and Letang would be #1 seed making it to the finals every year.


I completely agree. My point, however, was that people generally view Holland/management with disdain because they won't bring in strong depth players like Yandle, Backes, or Lucic. If only we did that, I hear, then we would be cup contenders, and it's only because Bowman and others have the stones to make trades that they're so good.


The issue is, we could make the exact same moves that Chicago makes (acquiring the same players, that is) and we still wouldn't be anywhere near their level. Just as, ten years ago, they weren't anywhere near ours. The moves they make in free agency aren't what keep them contenders - it's the two $10.5M contracts that does. Their depth only matters as far as making them contenders because of their top-level guys.


Those top-level types of players that you need to truly be competitive for the Cup year in and year out are not the types of players you can get in free agency anymore. There are only a handful of players in today's NHL with that kind of impact - Crosby, Ovechkin, Kane/Toews, Karlsson, Tarasenko, Kopitar, etc. - and whether or not your team has one of those players is almost entirely up to chance and luck of the draft. Nobody knows who those players will be coming out of the draft, once you find out who they are they're locked up with a team for life, and you will almost never see them hit the free agency market. It's all about finding gems in the draft now, and cultivating that talent.


Our success/failure has nothing to do with what our management does or doesn't do as far as signing free agents or making trades - it's entirely based on whether we happen to be fortunate enough to have a handful of superstar level players in their prime. Right now, we don't. Chicago does. Give it a few years and I think we will (Larkin/Mrazek) and they won't.


So sure, would I love it if we signed some depth guys? You bet. But let's not pretend like we're only one or two minor signings away from a championship here. Unless Stamkos becomes a free agent - and I'd bet almost anything that he doesn't - and we can get him, there isn't an available player in the entire NHL who could make our team competitive right now. And mortgaging our future in the hopes of finding one isn't the path for long-term, sustainable success.

#2667481 2016 Round 1 Photoshop War: Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by 55fan on 13 April 2016 - 11:28 AM


Oh, the huge manatee!

#2662479 Fixing this mess....

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 March 2016 - 06:41 AM

For all the people constantly b****ing about Sheahan, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Pulkkinen, etc. (aka secondary scoring / depth players), they are not the issue. These players are not hurting our team, like some like to suggest, and Nyquist and Tatar do not "suck", like has been the narrative around here for the past couple months... Both are very good secondary scorers and while their production has dipped a little, they're both still making things happen offensively. Both are in the top 4 on the team in Pts/60, Corsi% and Fenwick%.


Again, secondary scoring is far from the issue with this team, our issue like others have stated is primary scoring. Zetterberg and Datsyuk have clearly lost a step or two and Larkin, Mantha and Athanasiou are all too young and inexperienced to carry the load. They will get there in a couple years, and when they do, our depth should be very good and we'll be back to contenders.


Our biggest need is clearly on the back end, and I'd be willing to trade some of our depth for help back there. Of course teams are going to ask for Larkin and Mantha, but they know damn well they're not going anywhere, and I don't think we would need to trade one of them to upgrade the defense. A package including one of Nyquist or Tatar and prospect(s), pick(s) should be enough to get it done.

#2633443 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by Bill Berzeench on 27 October 2015 - 04:13 PM

You dislike Miller almost as much as nyquististhefuture loves 14 year old prospects.

It's not personal at all. It's just that we have better players now.

#2632814 Where Are The W-L Results?

Posted by rick zombo on 24 October 2015 - 12:21 PM

If you're looking for W-L results, any hockey website should have them. Like nhl.com or tsn for example. Many of these sites also include breakdowns of OT loses, SO loses, etc. You should be able to find playoff records there too.

#2622863 Franzen's Gift to Nyquist

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 11 August 2015 - 01:28 PM

For a little levity...

@RedWingsFeed: Johan Franzen Buys Gustav Nyquist Mike Babcock Sheets [PHOTO]: In a photo on Franzen's http://t.co/FmDIxlOrlhvia @CBSDetroit #RedWings


#2621664 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by number9 on 27 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

WiFi radios now grandpa


Only girls use wifi... back when hockey didn't suck we used hi-fi

#2621651 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by Euro_Twins on 27 July 2015 - 07:03 PM

You kids and your fancy information and your gender equality and your hi-fi radios.

WiFi radios now grandpa

#2620444 Brian McGrattan

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 13 July 2015 - 11:21 PM

True, there is only one. But that one is so powerful, there are 10 of it. And each one is more powerful than the other nine combined.

That doesn't make sense.

#2619986 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by krsmith17 on 10 July 2015 - 02:35 PM

Yup, random LGW posters can spot Pulkkinen's deficiencies, but pro scouts, coaches and general managers have no idea... Trade him before they catch on. I mean, all he has is the hardest, most accurate shot this team has seen since Brett Hull... Maybe we should see if some idiot GM would take Mantha off our hands too, before they realize he's lazy and soft...

#2614758 The Bowman Effect

Posted by sdogg1m on 16 June 2015 - 11:20 AM

Big elephant in the room. We have not won a cup in seven years and haven't been to a final in six. Scotty Bowman leaves our organization and makes an instant impact on the Hawks. They have won three cups since he left. I think the organization has drifted from a philosophy that helped build a winner and I would like to see us return. The philosophy is hire the best and let them work. We poached the Islanders chief executive when they were winning cups and then we poached Scotty not far removed from Pittsburgh's run. Scotty left and then Steve Yzerman. I know the conventional wisdom is that we couldn't keep them which may be true. However, I hope the front office is working to figure out ways to bring these men back. In short, we should begin once again work to bring the best brains in the NHL back into the fold not see them leave.


In this age of player parody, front office brain power is emphasized and we let two extremely talented men leave the fold.


You probably could include Jim Nill as well but his impact hasn't been nearly as large as Scotty's was.


Detroit Redwings - Post Bowman
2008-2009 51-19-10 Regular Season, Lost Stanley Cup Finals
2009-2010 44-24-14 Regular Season, Lost Western Conference Semifinals
2010-2011 47-25-10 Regular Season, Lost Western Conference Semifinals
2011-2012 48-28-6 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2012-2013 24-16-8 Regular Season, Lost Western Conference Semifinals
2013-2014 39-28-15 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2014-2015 43-25-14 Regular Season, Lost First Round
Chicago Blackhaws - Bowman Era
2008-2009 46-24-12 Regular Season, Lost Western Conference Finals
2009-2010 52-22-8 Regular Seasons, Won Stanley Cup
2010-2011 44-29-9 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2011-2012 45-26-11 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2012-2013 36-7-5 Regular Season, Won Stanley Cup
2013-2014 46-21-15 Regular Season, Lost Western Conference Finals
2014-2015 48-28-6 Regular Season, Won Stanley Cup
Tampa Bay Lightning - Steve Yzerman Era
2009-2010 34-36-12 Regular Season, Pre-Yzerman
2010-2011 46-25-11 Regular Season, Lost Easter Conference Finals
2011-2012 38-36-8 Regular Season, No Postseason
2012-2013 18-26-4 Regular Season, No Postseason
2013-2014 46-27-9 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2014-2015 50-24-8 Regular Season, Lost Stanley Cup Finals
Dallas Stars - Jim Nill Era
2012-2013 22-22-4 - Pre Jim Nill
2013-2014 40-31-11 Regular Season, Lost First Round
2014-2015 41-31-10 Regular Season, No Postseason
Jim Nill's impact has remain to be seen but he has been granted time in Dallas. Steve Yzerman has clearly made the right changes in Tampa Bay and their team is on the rise. The largest loss impact wise is Bowman. Chicago has developed into a dynasty with him and his son. Should also be noted that they are doing so with Joel Quenneville as coach, a man who Scotty was able to dominate in the 90s. Our beloved franchise has seen better days, we could conclude that this is due to the youth movement in Detroit but I don't think this movement is helped by a brain drain in Detroit. I don't see the Red Wings coming close to competing for a Stanley Cup in the next two years. I hope to see something year three but if nothing happens, I would hope that big changes would be made in the front office.

#2613690 Mcnulty and wheaton unsigned and going back into the draft

Posted by rick zombo on 09 June 2015 - 01:45 PM

Umm according to that article we didn't sign them , but I don't know about a deadline ... Was gonna ask if anyone's heard of hampus melen resigning? They didn't mention him and if he's not signed he goes back to the draft as well

Not the best but if ouellet and marchenko move up we have 6 prospects at d and one is like 5'8(hicketts) and the other is dissapointing(sproul) ... Not to mention jensen who if stays another year down will start his nhl career at 25

We need to draft mostly d's this year


I think that was the case even before these two fringe prospects were cut loose.


Take the best player available in the first round and then draft for need after that.