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#2621132 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by Buppy on 21 July 2015 - 09:25 PM

...I think here's been some misinformation here for the past couple of years (I repeated it myself) Jensen isn't out of options next year - he has 2 years, doesn't he?


No, this is his last year of exemption. His first contract was for the 13-14 season. He was 23 or 22, depending on which date it's based off, but it doesn't matter since either way he got 3 years of exemption. This will be his third and final year.


I think people fail to see the point here.


The one year deal is in the organizations favor.


Pulkinnen hasn't had a full NHL season yet. Chances of him playing superstar status and putting up a ton of points are low.


He might put up okay numbers. But most likely he won't see the minutes nor put up the numbers that Nyquist did on the top line with Zetterberg or Tatar with Datsyuk.


Ergo when his contract is up next year; the organization can basically get him back for a decent deal if they want. 


If he ends up sucking like a lot of posters here predict; we don't need to pay some crazy amount


This is his year to prove it. 


I think he will do decent but not good enough to warrant a crazy new contract. He's simply not NHL developed quite yet. 


If it was a two year contract I could see him doing much better in the second season of his contract and then asking for a hefty pay. But with a 1 year contract, it doesn't necessarily favor him. 

Could go either way. He could have a Jurco-ish season, and not have any leverage to ask for much of a raise, and probably push for another one-year "show me" deal, or he could have a 20g/40p year like Tatar in his first, and ask for $2.5-3M. 


Considering we're likely to be in cap trouble next year regardless, I would have rather seen a 2-year deal even at a little higher hit. Best case scenario we get an extra cheap year out of him if he doesn't do well this year, but that's not worth the risk of the extra trouble next summer. Plus I don't really like the idea of "best case" meaning a player doesn't do well.

#2620561 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Buppy on 14 July 2015 - 11:26 PM

For the record, I didn't turn on him...I have disliked him for a looooooooong time. And you all will see, give him the roster spot he will come in score 5 goals in 2 weeks, then take the rest of the year off on LTIR.  Oh, and you will less some good prospects FOR FREE...

he may even come in a score 10 goals in 6 games...but that will be it! Head case....

Yes, you have had an irrational dislike for Franzen for some time. At least you're consistent.

But we will not lose "some good prospects". Franzen is one person, taking one roster spot. We will lose, at most, one prospect. Not anyone I would call good either, but whatever.

#2620516 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Buppy on 14 July 2015 - 03:00 PM

Franzen is a waist of a money and a roster spot. If he is in the lineup on opening day, we will be less some good prospects...and we would have wasted our time with our draft picks.  To lose any one of these players to keep Franzen here for the next five years will be a waste. What are you going to do when Frk, AA, Mantha, and Larkin are due up, do you still keep Franzen? Franzen needs to go now or lose the likes of AA and Frk for sure. You need to get off this Franzen love, he is done, over, not worth keeping, especially when it comes to losing valuable prospects. He was the wrong choice and he continues to show that he is horrible.  Sure, he had the concussion last January, but how do you expain the previous 5 years of floating around and s***ting on the ice? You cannot explain it any other way than he is done, over, washed up. Time to cut ties with him now, either LTIR or trade him.  No way is losing ANYONE to cap issues worth keeping Franzen for.  If Holland does this, then this franchise is doomed... f*** Franzen



Anyhow, if the WIngs plan on moving forward and not losing young players for nothing or being forced to trade them, there has to be casualties at the NHL level. Q, E, K and Franzen, and maybe Smith are ALL great candidates to move in order to secure the kids arrival the next few seasons...

Frk is garbage and can't even stick with GR. I'll bet he never plays an NHL game. We won't lose him because of Franzen, he'll lose us because of his lack of ability.

#2620492 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Buppy on 14 July 2015 - 12:05 PM

Do we have cap room to re-sign all three?

Yes. I would guess both Jurco and Pulkkinen will get around $900k. That would put us $200-400k under the cap, depending on which of Ferraro and Andersson goes to GR. Aubry is irrelevant since he'll be in GR.


Next season will be tricky though. Wouldn't be shocked to see a move or two this year in anticipation of that. 

#2620391 Mitch Callahan signed 1-year - 600k

Posted by Buppy on 13 July 2015 - 03:18 PM

Jensen's not out of exemptions. He's got one more year.

2015-16: Jurco & Pulkkinen
2016-17: Frk, Jensen, Marchenko, Mrazek, Nedomlel, Ouellet, Sproul & Tvrdon
2017-18: Athanasiou, Campbell, Coreau, Mantha & Nosek
2018-19: Nastasiuk & Paterson

Games played in the NHL could change some of that, but that's where most of our guys stand right now.

Mantha may have an extra year. It's confusing determining the official age of a player. Sometimes they use age as of Sept. 15th, sometimes they go by calendar year. I know he counted as an 18-year-old in regards to the slide rule, and I think also for his waiver exemption. If so, it would give him 5 years, which would be the 18-19 season. 

#2620300 Brian McGrattan

Posted by Buppy on 12 July 2015 - 06:27 PM

Best 4th line potential in the NHL

He's wearing that life vest to keep it from drowning.

#2620284 Brian McGrattan

Posted by Buppy on 12 July 2015 - 02:53 PM

McGrattan can kill rock and roll and touch MC Hammer. He could also buy love, but he doesn't have to.

#2620153 Brian McGrattan

Posted by Buppy on 11 July 2015 - 08:27 PM

If Brian McGrattan had a nickel for every time he's had his ass kicked, he'd be $infinity in debt.

#2620032 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Buppy on 10 July 2015 - 06:21 PM

Pulkkinen does suck.  He's got one-dimensional depth scorer written all over him.  He'd be REALLY lucky to have a Mike Cammalleri type career, but he'll more realistically top out as a Michael Ryder, Brad Boyes, type guy. .... 

Wait, are you saying he'll have multiple 30+ goal/60+ point seasons? 

#2619689 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by Buppy on 08 July 2015 - 06:19 PM



Buppy, it was said on HNIC that season that Babcock was getting frustrated getting Sergei to play 100% all the time and called to ask Scotty how to approach him differently.  Obvious all efforts failed as early the next season, he was traded.  I just assume he ended up in the famed Babcock doghouse we are all familiar with...

Babcock was no longer with Anaheim when Fedorov was traded, he had nothing to do with that. Nor, I'm sure, did Babcock's previous experience with Fedorov have anything to do with not wanting to trade for him. 


And that doghouse is largely an overblown fan creation. 

#2619554 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by Buppy on 08 July 2015 - 12:58 AM

I don't see why it's a problem if Babcock didn't want him. It's the coaches will who he wants playing on his roster. You're acting like it's uncommon. Blashill will be the same way just like any coach in the NHL. You're either suited to play a coaches system or you're not. 


Remember than Bowman turned Sergei into a defenseman for a good month. It's what they do. The chess board is theirs and they can move each piece (player) they way they see suited in order to win the game. 


BTW it was Hollands decision to not bring Fedorov back. Columbus wanted Valterri Filpulla and a First round draft pick. Holland didn't want to give that up. So no, you can't blame Babcock because it was Hollands decision at the end. 

It's easy to blame Babcock. Now that he's gone, if we can convince ourselves that everything was his fault it gives us reason to be optimistic.


LW also tends to ignore reality at times. Like with Fedorov. The one season he played for Babcock was the one non-Wing season he had that was similar to his production with the Wings. But Babcock couldn't figure him out, misused him, and didn't want him on the Wings. Because then that's why he never came back, and why his number isn't retired, and now that Babs is gone there's hope for the future.

#2619155 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Buppy on 05 July 2015 - 09:05 PM

Saad 52 points, 203 lbs, 22 years, 2 cups
Goose 54 points, 180 lbs, 24 years, no cup

I mean if people know another comparable please name him. So Saad is worth 6 mill per do people honestly think Goose is worth a million less than him? A few hands here and there sure but if it goes to sa I think something north of 5 will be awarded. Maybe I'm totally off base and he'll get less but I just don't see it.

I don't think anyone around here believes Saad is worth $6M. 


The Wings are normally pretty generous with RFAs, but we haven't really had any that have put up the numbers Nyquist has either, and now it seems RFAs are getting UFA money. I'm still going with around $4.5M, since that's what we can afford without moving anyone. Might have to go short-term to get that. If we do that and he keeps up his production, we could be looking at $7M+ in a couple years. I think I'd rather go higher and get a better term. 

#2619132 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Buppy on 05 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

Was Bert a 50 goal scorer in junior?

Only 43, but scoring was higher in Maltby's day. Did have 57 total OHL+AHL, regular + playoffs. Still counts I think.

#2618926 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Buppy on 03 July 2015 - 05:25 PM


I'm not sure which top line I love more...

Holmstrom - Larkin - Svechnikov


Bertuzzi - Athanasiou - Mantha

That is a TON of talent up front, but unfortunately very little on the back end...

Holmstrom taking #96. Seems unlikely to be a coincidence.

#2618903 Tj oshie to washington

Posted by Buppy on 03 July 2015 - 03:13 PM

None had below 5. Everyone I listed had at least 7 attempts or more. And there's plenty more I can list.

Just stop. He's no where close to being great at shootouts and is in fact probably below average. Do you seriously want to argue that a 36% SO makes him valuable?

He had a bad year, but he's still near the top all-time. Neilsen's better, but that's about it. Silfverberg maybe, but he has less than half as many career attempts.


Oshie may be way over-rated as a player, but he is very good in the shootout.