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#2102996 NHL picks All-star alternate captains

Posted by Buppy on 22 January 2011 - 02:04 PM

"It's pretty cool honor to have," Kane told Chris Kuc of the Chicago Tribune. "A lot of pressure comes with it with the players to pick. [Teammates Patrick] Sharp and [Jonathan] Toews have already been talking to me a little bit, I haven't heard much from Duncan [Keith] -- I don't think he has much to worry about. Sharp and Toews have been saying if I pick one before the other the other is going to be ticked. It's a tough situation."

So he thinks he gets to pick the team now?

#2102324 Cool NHL player names

Posted by Buppy on 21 January 2011 - 09:36 PM

I've always liked the Finnish names, especially first names; Jarkko, Teemu, Mikko, Jussi...they sound like Disney animals. Soft and fluffy, but also heroic and funny. Plus, I've always thought U was an underused vowel, and the Fins really seem to appreciate it.

#2099145 "The Red Wing"

Posted by Buppy on 17 January 2011 - 11:11 PM

Like the rest of the guardians...stupid.

I like the GP concept, but for something supposedly several months in development with allegedly professional comic writers involved, it's been disappointing. The whole thing seems like some college art student spent the whole semester partying, and had to cram the whole project into one weekend.

#2094566 Norris turning into "best offensive defenseman"?

Posted by Buppy on 09 January 2011 - 12:12 PM

Buffy will probably get nominated, but he'll need a lot more than a 2 point edge to beat out Nick.

But yeah, pretty much since Orr, the Norris tends to go to great two-way defensemen. Kind of like the Selke goes to great two-way forwards. I really doubt Nick would have 6 if he wasn't so good offensively. Coffey probably wouldn't have any.

But remember it is 'best defenseman', not 'best defender'. Looking at the overall efficacy of the player, it's hard to argue that Buffy hasn't been one of the most effective defensemen this year. Same with Green the last two years.

#2090358 Howard, Stuart, Eaves possible Tuesday against the Oil

Posted by Buppy on 04 January 2011 - 09:41 AM


That's some of the most ridiculous nonsense I've seen in some time. I literally don't think even a single word is true. Not even the small ones like 'by' or 'at'.

#2090208 Howard, Stuart, Eaves possible Tuesday against the Oil

Posted by Buppy on 03 January 2011 - 09:44 PM

I'd like to see a straight rotation too, though I wouldn't say Howard is really having a sophomore slump, nor would I say Ozzie is outplaying him by much. I think they're doing pretty similar.

I do think Howie needs some extra work with the goalie coaches. He seems to be dropping way too low when he goes down. Doesn't seem as tall on his knees as he did last year. Maybe just a technique problem, or maybe he's lost some flexibility. Either way, if he could just stay a little more vertical, most of the deflections that have been going in would start hitting him. His left shoulder has been especially brutal. He also seems to over-commit some times.

#2089192 Is Basketball a Canadian sport?

Posted by Buppy on 02 January 2011 - 02:36 PM

Actual Ice Hockey as we know it is Canadian. There have been plenty of ball and stick games played over the course of time, there is evidence in egypt of ball and stick games, as well as in the UK they played a similar game called Banty. British soldiers did play it but did not invent it.

I just did a project this semester at University about it so thats why I really see it as Canadian. To say anything different is misinformed really. The British had games very similar to it but Hockey is Canadian.

Saying Basketball is Canadian is not nearly the same as saying hockey is British. A Canadian that studied in Canada invented basketball, so it is not wrong to say it is Canadian. I would say its a little bit of both but thats just me.

From what I've always heard, Ice Hockey was 'invented' by British soldiers as an adaptation of a game played by native Canadian tribes. But it's still a Canadian sport.

Basketball was invented in America, first gained popularity in America, and until recently played almost exclusively by Americans. It is an American sport.

The inventor was Canadian (though he did later become an American citizen), the sport isn't.

Or we can just make it simple and say all games are African.

#2087591 Who do you like?

Posted by Buppy on 30 December 2010 - 11:24 PM

Zetterberg - Playoff MVP, superior beard / With his skills should be more dominant
Datsyuk - So slick he's become an adjective / Too slick, sometimes he slips on himself
Lidstrom - The Perfect Human / Unfortunately, he is human
Cleary - Hustle and hard work / Too fragile
Franzen - Could be a 50+ scorer / Isn't
Bertuzzi - Seems like a funny guy / Two hands Bert (Plus, he looks like my alcoholic brother-in-law, so I want to set him on fire.)
Rafalski - Offense / Defense
Filppula - Flashes of brilliance / Immediately followed by low simmering flames of mediocrity (Plus, shoot the damn puck)
Kronwall - World-class all-around game / Headhunter who takes shifts off
Holmstrom - Best of his generation in his role / Very limited role
Eaves - Hustle and hard work, and a nice shot / Hit more and get a haircut
Stuart - Much better than he gets credit for / Because of his uncanny knack for having his mistakes turn in to goals against
Hudler - 2008-09 (Plus, funny litte guy, probably great at parties or as a pet) / 2010-11
Helm - Speed / Nothing but
Ericsson - This year / Last year
Abdelkader - Hard work and hustle, and hitting / Eventually he'll need a raise
Modano - I used to skate at the rink now named after him / Cameo in the Mighty Ducks movie
Salei - His nickname is Rusty, makes me think old-fashioned small-town friendly, like he'd let me shoot his BB gun / Probably wouldn't
Miller - Haven't really noticed him this season (That's both good and bad)
Draper - Memories (Plus, he's not as bad now as most think) / Soon to be only a memory
Howard - Last season set the bar pretty high, no real sophomore slump / Probably too high, kind of seems like a sophomore slump
Osgood - HHOF, definitely / Rafters, no

#2086429 New Jersey's situation about to explode

Posted by Buppy on 29 December 2010 - 01:03 AM

How will Lemaire returning affect things in the Swamp?

Their losses will now be at least twice as boring

#2085723 Jordin Tootoo in rehab

Posted by Buppy on 27 December 2010 - 11:08 PM

He's one of those guy you hate playing against, but we all know he would be a fan favorite in Detroit. Hopefully he sorts his problems out and returns to the ice soon.

Wouldn't be one of my favorites. Mostly because I'd have to kill myself in embarrassment the first time a Detroit fan blew a train whistle.

#2085712 What is the purpose of the Game Winning Goal statistic?

Posted by Buppy on 27 December 2010 - 11:04 PM

What is the Game Winning Goal statistic meant to tell us?

Better question is why do you care?

If you don't like it, don't look at it.

#2084410 So who remembers the 85-86 season?

Posted by Buppy on 25 December 2010 - 04:55 AM

Don't remember the year exactly, but I remember watching tape-delay Wings games on channel 50 at 11 o'clock.

I guess nothing tells as much about the popularity of 80's NHL Hockey like being pre-empted on local non-network TV by Three's Company reruns.

#2084400 Should Valtteri Filppula be traded?

Posted by Buppy on 25 December 2010 - 03:21 AM

...I don't see what you mean I guess.

I don't hate Filppula is that he has a lot of potential but he never quite lives up to it... he always seems to be on the cusp of breaking out to be a 60 point player but then he cools down and plays mediocre for a few games. If he were a 3rd line guy that would be just fine, a 3rd line center putting up 40+ points is a wonderful thing to have, but as a second line center its just puts that much more pressure on the first line to produce. ....

You two seem a little confused about what I was saying.

PPG Regular season: 0.95
PPG Playoffs: 0.94

PPG Regular: 1.39
PPG playoffs: 1.32

PPG regular: 1.21
PPG playoffs: 1.18

PPG regular: 0.94
PPG playoffs: 0.84

PPG regular: 0.45
PPG playoffs: 0.55

You'll notice that Flip is the only one of those five whose playoff PPG is higher than their regular season PPG. While the other four are certainly much better players, they are also paid much more. Flip also has the best point/cap hit in the playoffs of all those players.

You also seem to have a very misguided notion of what a second line center is supposed to be. Last year, there were 57 centers who scored 40 or more points. There were 25 who scored 60 or more. Only 53 forwards who scored 60 or more.

40+ points IS a decent second line NHL center. Malkin is not the standard for a good second line center. 60+ points pretty much means first line talent.

On a Cup caliber team, the standards are higher of course, but that is less an indictment of Flip than it is praise of the Wings. He is certainly no worse than the 5th best forward on the team, and I think it's pretty close between him and Cleary for that spot. Flip's detractors seem to think he either needs to be a consistent scorer or relegated to the third line. The truth is if he could consistently produce points the way he does when he's 'on', that would pretty much make him Datsyuk/Zetterberg, and he'd be commanding twice the salary, and thus playing for another team. You can't compare him to Zetterberg and other superstar players. But some people seem to be under the impression that Flip has to be at that level to be considered valuable.

Another thing people complain about how long we've been waiting for Flip to break out, as if certain fans' unrealistic expections determine how successful a player is. A couple years ago, people expected a lot from Flip. People also expected him to center a second line with Franzen and Hossa. Considering he spent the majority of the year centering the third line with Hudler and Sammy, with minimal PP time, 40 points in 80 games WAS a lot. Put him in the top 200 in PPG, top 160 in points, among forwards...fringe 2nd line territory. People expected a lot last year. But who expected him to spend a third of the season out with injury and another third playing with the likes of Leino (Detroit version), Williams, Miller, Abby, etc. Despite that, he was still top 170 in points, and top 120 in PPG. Solidly 2nd line production. In one 31 game stretch after he came back from his injury, he scored 27 points. 31 games is pretty long to be considered an aberrant streak. That's a protracted run of top-line caliber production. The only way you can complain about anything prior to this season is if you ignore circumstance or have insanely unrealistic standards.

The guy has real talent offensively. Easily a 2nd-liner by league-wide standards. While his point totals are a bit disappointing thus far this season, people really need to stop judging him by an all-star standard. Need to realize that players like him are going to be streaky and inconsistent scorers, thus why he makes $3M instead of $6M. Realize that a few good games, like the 8 points in 3 games he had last year, would bump him right up close to the 60 point pace people think he should be at.

I would trade him for a ~35+ goal scorer in a heartbeat, because the team needs someone like that a lot more than we need someone like Flip. But I'm not going to rag on the kid for not being something he's neither expected to be, nor is paid to be.

#2084391 Patrick Eaves Watch Thread.

Posted by Buppy on 25 December 2010 - 01:05 AM

Eaves outplaying huds, flip and bert

Eaves to 2nd line yupppp

Relative to talent, Eaves is outplaying (or at least out-producing) everyone except Cleary and maybe Homer.

#2081208 Chicago fans last night

Posted by Buppy on 19 December 2010 - 12:02 PM

I have to amend my statement about coming here and being able to discuss hockey with hockey fans in the past.

After looking at this thread I notice that except for haroldsnepts and hockeytown0001 you are all either newbees or old trolls. Makes me kind of sad, yeah, there was some ribbing both ways but it is fun to discuss hockey between different fan bases. ...

If you want to discuss hockey, try one of the threads discussing hockey. If you want to discuss other teams and their fans, remember that this a Wings board, with a Wings bias, and the prevailing opinion about other teams is going to fall somewhere in the range of 'indifference' to 'they suck'. Deal.

I never said he shouldn't have been booed. I said Hawks fans had every right to boo.

Never stated whether I would boo or not.

Idc if mickey generalized. what im trying to say is that it wasn't classless.

The right, sure. It's a free country. Those fans have the right to be classless douchebags. And we have the right to call them as such.

Justification is debateable, and it seems we can't agree on that issue. So I guess we should just leave it at that.

I think you are missing the pointof what I am trying to say. Im not trying to say that Detroit dont have loyal fans, because they do. All I am saying is when people try to bash the Blackhawks fanbase and call most of them bandwagoners, then turn around and praise the Red wings fanbase, I just dont think a lot of them have the right to do that. The Red Wings have been in contention for two decades, so most of the fans around here (I didnt say all, I said most), have never had to experience the losing side of their team. Do you honestly think that if the Wings were to suck for the next 10 years all these "loyal" fans would stick around? I highly doubt it. Some of you would, I will even go a far as to say that a lot of them would, but you would see a good deal of them lose interest.

My whole point is if you have never been on the losing side you dont have the right to call out a fanbase that has had to deal with what us Blackhawk fans have had to deal with for a LONG time. That is not a knock on Detroits fanbase, im simply saying that a lot of Wing fans just dont get how bad it has been for Chicago, because they have never had to deal with it. You should be thankful you have had such a great organization, that pretty much any team would kill to have.

Forgive me if I rant a bit here.

I don't have a problem with 'bandwagon' fans the sense of fans who only take interest when the team is winning. Every organization in sports has those. I don't think you have to be a die-hard attending every game no matter how bad the team is to be a good fan. People have limited time and income, I don't expect people to spend what they have on a poor product.

For me, it's the attitude of some bandwagoners that gets to me. The attitude that brings them out in droves to Wings boards demanding respect. We didn't even play you in the playoffs. We were nothing more than an also-ran last season. Why are you here looking for validation? Why does everyone come to us to wave their victory banners, mock us for our failures? Does it really mean so much around the league for teams to be considered better than us? I guess we should take it as a compliment, but I just find it annoying. Let me ask you this; in 2008, how many Wings fans went out policing the Hawks boards for any percieved slights to our status?

Also, the sense of entitlement for some of these fans even though they haven't proven a willingness to pay their dues. I don't mean supporting a losing team. In many ways it's much easier to support a team with no expectations. You can't be disappointed. I mean supporting a good team that loses when you expect them to win.

You talk about how much success the Wings have had in recent memory, but that is a double-edged sword. With that success comes the expectation of more success. Since 1995, our seasons have had only two possible conclusions: Cup or Failure. We might have the most successful team over that span, but at the same time we have also endured the most failure. We are invested in our team to an extent I don't think you really understand. Probably half the leauge would be ecstatic just to make the playoffs this year. For us the prospect of missing the playoffs borders on tragic. A first round loss here is an embarassment. Last year in Phoenix it was an epic achievement, even though they had home ice and could easily have been considered the favorite. When Pittsburgh and Chicago lost to us, fans took it as a moral victory that they made it so far. When we lost to the Ducks and Pens in the same circumstances, they were profoundly disappointing failures. Even when we won the Cup most of the talk around the league centered around the rise of the Penguins.

You all come here playing the victim because we don't idolize every Cup winner, demanding respect that you haven't earned. Maybe it's just the 'instant success' factor; you haven't had a chance yet to take your lumps, but you are willing to. Pens fans probably would have said the same thing, but their bandwagon seemed to empty pretty quickly.

Come back when the Hawks are eliminated. Make excuses, whine about officiating and injuries and bad luck and all the other things you do when you're frustrated because your team let you down. Listen to fans around the league berate you for those excuses, tell you your reign is over. Fans around the league hate the Wings and us fans. Every team has the Wings games circled on their schedule almost like a rival or defending champ. League marketing is even sick of us, and always looking for the next big thing to replace us as headliners. That's what we Wings fans have been doing for over a decade.

You don't deserve the thrill of victory if defeat isn't agony. You haven't shown that yet. Even now you talk about the Hawks struggles like it doesn't bother you, like you expect nothing, like you could walk away from a second round loss with your head held high. Success is wonderful, and much appreciated, but also a reminder of the greater success we've failed to achieve. Your success still leaves you a lot closer to Nashville than it does to us, and you haven't yet demonstrated any emotional investment in your team. Yet you have the gall to step into enemey territory demanding equality in our justifiably biased discussions. Un-*******-believable.