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#2586969 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Buppy on 30 March 2015 - 11:38 AM

See if Mantha turns things around after next season with Grand Rapids.

Odd how it seems late picks in draft work out for us and the the first rounders it can be hit and miss; no rhyme or reason to anything really

Seems odd, but really it's not.


I forget the stats now, but the drop-off after the top handful of picks is fairly dramatic. Even mid-1st rounders are far from a sure thing. We haven't had a ton of 1sts, but I'm pretty sure we're a bit better than average for the range we pick. We're just a lot better than most when it comes to the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

#2586964 Opinion: Petr Mrazek should be starting Game 1

Posted by Buppy on 30 March 2015 - 11:18 AM

I agree that our goalies haven't been good, I think I even said it. I just think on top of bad goaltending were hanging them out to dry as well. When you compile everything that's just a recipe for disaster (which is what has happened).

There have been a lot of bad goals over this stretch but I think it's getting to the point that every goa scored against us now is a soft goal. Example I've seen Howard getting a lot of slack for last night for not coming up with the big save. To hang out a goalie, and have one of his first shots come as a Shorthanded breakaway is not helping out our goalie.

Aside from some noted Howard bashers, who would bash him regardless, no one was saying anything about Howard. 


What I'm saying is scoring chances are going to happen. Giving up a breakaway or a 2 on 1 doesn't mean the defense sucked. The Islanders did not have many really good scoring chances yesterday. Nor did SJ or Phoenix. Some, but not any ridiculous amount. If the only goals we'd allowed in those games were on those chances, we probably win those games and no one would be talking about poor goaltending or poor defense. If we're up 3-0 and Howie lets one in on a breakaway, no one would be complaining about not getting the big save.


Unlike scoring chances, bad goals are not something that happen every game around the league. Seeing 6-7 of them in 3 of our last 4 games is worth talking about. 

#2586940 Opinion: Petr Mrazek should be starting Game 1

Posted by Buppy on 29 March 2015 - 11:56 PM

I love the tangents LGW goes on sometimes. I feel like I'm one of the few that realize both goalies are not playing up to snuff but I think it has more to do with being hung out to try and blowing their confidence.

I honestly thing our goaltending problems come down to a much bigger problem of just buckling down and playing a good team game. An easy example was the 4-0 Tampa game. Detroit buckled down and didn't give them any grade a chances. Against the Isles tonight we gave up way to many good chances and a terrible PK. Yes not every goal was unstoppable but the team in front of him sure didn't help them out.

Overall this isn't a 1 man problem, it's a team problem. If we lock it down and actually help our goalies out which our team has not been doing, they can start gaining their confidence back and start making the big saves when we need them.

The last three losses have all had multiple soft goals. You can't lock down every game. There's going to be mistakes, breakdowns, bad bounces...teams are going to get chances. Goalies have to make some tough saves, and they most definitely should be making the easy ones.


Arizona hardly had any more chances than TB, but nothing seemed to hit Jimmy that night; maybe his positioning was off; then he gave up a buttery soft OT goal. Half the goals in SJ were weak. 2 of Mrazek's today were, and a 3rd was a little iffy. Neither the Sharks nor Islanders had an unusually high number of good chances. Not all the goals were bad and we wouldn't have had shutouts, but you don't need a shutout to win. With as much luck as we've had with our own scoring lately, we should have gotten more than 3 points out of the last 4 games. And we most likely would have if we had gotten decent goaltending.


I agree the tangents can get ridiculous at times, and goaltending is not the only problem with the team. But this last week it has been by far the biggest, and all the ranting is about as justified as it'll ever be.

#2584222 The Futures of Tatar & Nyquist

Posted by Buppy on 23 March 2015 - 03:43 PM

congrats on being the only one to actually answer the question.

Hey, I answered it too, and much more succinctly. :)

#2584195 Lines Thread

Posted by Buppy on 23 March 2015 - 11:06 AM

If anything we should be looking to package a couple forwards for a defenseman, not a defenseman for a forward (especially one that will be 36 going into next season). Our forward depth is unbelievable, and our defensive depth is lacking.

Our defensive depth is great. The quality at the top is what's lacking. That'll be a problem at forward soon enough as well. We should be looking at trading quantity for quality in both areas, though that is far easier said than done. 

#2583335 Connor McDavid

Posted by Buppy on 20 March 2015 - 06:43 PM



Serious question. Think this guy will ever see a Wings uniform? 

He might be qualified to get a job at Hockeytown Authentics someday. As close as he'll ever get.

#2582805 Statistical view of 3 on 3 OT

Posted by Buppy on 18 March 2015 - 07:35 PM

The home team should get to pick the skill competition they want: Shootout, Fastest skater, Puck handling, Hardest shot, or Shot accuracy. If tied after 3 rounds, game decided by sudden-death fight. :)

#2582790 Lines Thread

Posted by Buppy on 18 March 2015 - 04:26 PM

Pulkkinen is out of waiver exemptions after this year, so the chances of him starting in GR is whatever the chance is of all 30 NHL GMs going insane by next October. :)

#2582699 Lines Thread

Posted by Buppy on 18 March 2015 - 11:30 AM

I think Jurco fits just fine on the 4th line. He's faster and more physical than Andersson, and I don't think the drop-off defensively is that drastic. With Helm in the lineup, we don't need Andy to kill penalties. 






#2580720 Pulkkinen sent back to GR

Posted by Buppy on 11 March 2015 - 11:39 PM

What's your point? We both agree he shouldn't be put with datsyuk. Which was what we were discussing.

Exactly. Would be unfair to the rest of the league. Probably lead to a worldwide shortage of goal netting, he'd wear them out so fast. Then you'd have spoiled Canadian kids stealing mosquito nets from Unicef, and frankly those kids in the Congo have enough problems. #thinkofthechildren

#2580701 Pulkkinen sent back to GR

Posted by Buppy on 11 March 2015 - 06:40 PM



  Babs gave him several games with Zetterberg and he didn't produce jack squat.  The answer to all our offensively under performance issues can't be "put him with Datsyuk".  He's played with good players and hasn't produced that well.  That's not a good reason to give him more ice time with better players.  And that's not a  good strategy to begin with.  This is the part of the season when we're trying to win games and establish home ice for the playoffs, not worry about the development of rookies. 


Edit:  Oh yeah, that blog was especially retarded because it implicitly compared Pulkkinen to Brett Hull (again).  A comparison that is made all too often, and only sounds dumber the more it's repeated. 

Game and a half before Hank got hurt. And he had 6 shots.


His gpg is the same as Helm and Franzen, not too far under Zetterberg, better than Weiss, Sheahan, or Glendening. G/60 better than Abdelkader. His fancy stats (however little they may be worth) are among the best in the league. His 82 game pace is 17-18g right now. Tatar had 4g in his first 14 games this year. 2g in his first 14 last year. Nyquist had 4g in his first 14 last year. Helm had 0g his first 14. Abby had 5g. Glendening had 1g. Zetterberg had 4. Cole had 4.


He's probably not ready to handle top 6 competition (especially on the defense side), but he is not underperforming.

#2580689 Franzen on IR

Posted by Buppy on 11 March 2015 - 04:01 PM


I'll believe a report about his career being in jeopardy when I see one.


But still, if there's been 800 - 1000 concussions over the last 10 years based on the 2011-12 numbers, guys cut short of their NHL careers bc of concussions is statistically insignificant. How many have their been? 3 guys? 5? 10?


10 of 800 means 1.25% of concussions are leading to shortened careers



Just because concussions have been sensationalized by lawsuits and former enforcer suicides, doesn't take away from the severity of chronic spinal and shoulder injury. Nathan Horton is latest to have his career end early because of this issue.


My issue is the double standard.


The reaction to Zetterberg being out is "I hear it's his back again, I hope it's not bad"

The reaction to Franzen being out is "I don't expect to see him play ever again, he should seriously consider retirement"


There is a lot more going on there than just the injury.

You're still glossing over a few key elements.


One: Few players play at Franzen's age or older. 41 skaters his age or older, 106 who will be 33 or older by the end of this year. 6-15% of the 690 regular skater spots.

Two: He's suffering from post concussion syndrome, which is different from a concussion. I couldn't find any real stats, but I've seen a range from 15-50% of concussions lead to PCS.

Three: It's a repeat of the same injury from last year. Again, no good stats, but most reports say that the likelihood and severity of PCS increases with repeated injuries.


So say your 1000 concussions is right, and let's say 20% hit guys in that age range, and 50% of those result in PCS, and 50% of those are repeats...  Now you're down to 50 similar cases. so even just a few of those being career ending is pretty significant, and cause for concern.

#2580594 Franzen on IR

Posted by Buppy on 10 March 2015 - 02:37 PM

Citing Savard, Pronger, and Lindros proves absolutely nothing. The vast majority of players that go through the NHL do not have their careers cut short by concussions, even after multiple.

You spot picked a few bad results out of the hundreds of guys who recover and play

How many of them in their mid-30s, with post concussion syndrome causing them to miss ~4 months in a little over a year?


But you do have a point. The perceived threat to his career is probably inflated due to some high visibility cases.

#2579182 LeBrun: Babcock for COY and Holland for GMOY

Posted by Buppy on 06 March 2015 - 04:06 AM


Lol.  You get incredibly lighthearted when your arguments start to fall flat.  A far cry from the guy who so vigorously blamed me for the downfall of the NHL awards process.  Wait, did you blame me?  Or just make a vague statement and not so subtly point it at me?


Either way, I didn't make any of the arguments you claim I did.  I'm not responsible for NHL awards.  And I'm smart enough to know what plausible deniability is.  If you're going to make up a bunch of things (most improved award), in the future could you spare me the "who me" routine when you get called out on it?


Or maybe next time you disagree with me about who should be the NHL Coach of the Year, you should just act decent about it instead of pulling that "this is the kind of thinking" crap.  Then we wouldn't be in this position. 

It was the logic that I was disagreeing with, not your specific candidates. But I'm not going to argue semantics.


I don't like the apparent reasoning you used. I don't believe improvement should be such a big factor, because I think a team can still have an excellent, or the best, coach or GM even if they were good the previous season too. You want to debate that, then debate that, not my choice of phrasing.

#2579159 LeBrun: Babcock for COY and Holland for GMOY

Posted by Buppy on 06 March 2015 - 01:56 AM


I wasn't appealing to authority.  I was pointing out the fact that you called me (and my thinking) out and oddly not Pierre Lebrun, the person who wrote the article in the OP, mentioned all the same guys I did, and actually gets to vote for those awards.  Why not say "his type of thinking is ruining the awards"?  Since he actually gets a vote.  Instead, it's my thinking.  Seems like you've got an axe to grind, or some hostility or something.  I promise I don't get to vote for these awards, and so you can be assured that my thinking isn't ruining anything.


Otherwise, I've said what I'm going to say.  A coach (or GM) of the year award should go to the best coach (or GM) over the last year.  And since I don't believe (my opinion) that any of these guys did absolutely nothing between this last year and this, I'm going to heavily rely on improvement as an indicator, when offering up my (clearly stated) personal preferences. 

I said 'this', not 'your'. Stop trying to play the victim. Also, Lebrun picked Babs and Holland to win, albeit he's doing so for the 'exceeding expectations' reason.


But if it makes you feel better I'll henceforth refer to it as "the Lebrun­­ method™"


If the Wings are making the playoffs Babs absolutely deserves to finally win this award but the competition is stiff with Laviolette and Hartley. I don't think Holland should be in the conversation, he hasn't done anything in the off-season. Yeah, so far the season has turned out better than expected but I don't think it should go to GM a that haven't done anything. I would give it to Hartley and the flames gm.

Yeah, how 'bout those Flames. Only took two years of tanking to get to a slightly better level of mediocrity than they were at 5 years ago. They actually have a chance to make the playoffs. Remarkable.