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#2619155 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Buppy on 05 July 2015 - 09:05 PM

Saad 52 points, 203 lbs, 22 years, 2 cups
Goose 54 points, 180 lbs, 24 years, no cup

I mean if people know another comparable please name him. So Saad is worth 6 mill per do people honestly think Goose is worth a million less than him? A few hands here and there sure but if it goes to sa I think something north of 5 will be awarded. Maybe I'm totally off base and he'll get less but I just don't see it.

I don't think anyone around here believes Saad is worth $6M. 


The Wings are normally pretty generous with RFAs, but we haven't really had any that have put up the numbers Nyquist has either, and now it seems RFAs are getting UFA money. I'm still going with around $4.5M, since that's what we can afford without moving anyone. Might have to go short-term to get that. If we do that and he keeps up his production, we could be looking at $7M+ in a couple years. I think I'd rather go higher and get a better term. 

#2619132 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Buppy on 05 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

Was Bert a 50 goal scorer in junior?

Only 43, but scoring was higher in Maltby's day. Did have 57 total OHL+AHL, regular + playoffs. Still counts I think.

#2618926 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Buppy on 03 July 2015 - 05:25 PM


I'm not sure which top line I love more...

Holmstrom - Larkin - Svechnikov


Bertuzzi - Athanasiou - Mantha

That is a TON of talent up front, but unfortunately very little on the back end...

Holmstrom taking #96. Seems unlikely to be a coincidence.

#2618903 Tj oshie to washington

Posted by Buppy on 03 July 2015 - 03:13 PM

None had below 5. Everyone I listed had at least 7 attempts or more. And there's plenty more I can list.

Just stop. He's no where close to being great at shootouts and is in fact probably below average. Do you seriously want to argue that a 36% SO makes him valuable?

He had a bad year, but he's still near the top all-time. Neilsen's better, but that's about it. Silfverberg maybe, but he has less than half as many career attempts.


Oshie may be way over-rated as a player, but he is very good in the shootout.

#2618803 Depth chart for RW/Griffins

Posted by Buppy on 02 July 2015 - 09:07 PM

On Callahan, yes we may want him back. But does he want to return? What else can he do in the AHL? he is blocked with the RW's and may want to go to another team where he would get a shot at the NHL. If Svech goes back to junior the is a need for him with the Griffs.

Callahan is RFA. He doesn't have much choice. Barring the unlikely event of someone claiming him off waivers, he'll be back in GR. Same goes for Aubry. Also, none of Turgeon, Hicketts, or Svechnikov are AHL eligible. If I had to guess at the GR roster (barring any UFA additions):





Frk with Hoggan or one of Ferraro/Andersson possible for the last spot (and if one of those three, they probably bump one of the bottom six out of the lineup). 




Lashoff - Jensen

Probably a revolving door of Toledo scrubs





What is with "need" to get rid on Quincey. They guy played good last year and is a pretty good guy to be on our third pairing. I think some people have just branded him in a certain light, and it doesn't matter how he plays they will always see him that way.

That, and some people are obsessed with the kids, even though none have yet shown to be a definite upgrade over Smith/Kindl let alone Q or E. Also, he is in the last year of his contract and seems destined to move on after the year.

#2618490 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by Buppy on 01 July 2015 - 05:59 PM

Ward still got 19 goals and is a big body that hits and is a beast in the playoffs every year , he brings something we lack ... 

He has 5 goals and 18 points in his last 35 playoff games. Exactly the same as Richards has in his last 35. 

#2617650 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Buppy on 30 June 2015 - 06:03 PM

So, saving about $3.8M in cap space just to re-activate Franzen's $3.9M and sign Cleary to $1.5M with a $1M bonus. Save $3.8M to spend $6.4M on broken players.  This off season is beginning to smell like rotten eggs.

There will be NO extra roster space.  Not with Holland giving Cleary a contract and Franzen a spot. Say goodbye to some good young kids via waivers.

If Franzen is healthy there's no choice but re-activating him.


If Cleary is signed (which I doubt) it would maybe cost us Andersson or Ferraro. Not "some", and not particularly "good" either. Not saying I'd like it, and it would kind of defeat the purpose of dumping Weiss, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad as you and most of the board would make it out to be.

#2617640 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Buppy on 30 June 2015 - 05:46 PM

...Nyquist will get a contract similar to Tatar


I really hope so.  I am not saying he is bad or not an important part of our future, just needs to make it easier for us to keep our players together and be able to grow together.  Sign a 2-3 year at $2.75M each and then if he scores 25-30 in each of those season's, give him a big deal.

When Tatar signed he'd played one season and scored 19g, 39p. Nyquist has played 2 seasons, scoring 28g, 48p and 27g, 54p. He should and almost certainly will get more than Tatar. ~$4.5 range I would guess, around 5 years. I would much rather have that than a 2 yr cheap deal (when we don't need to be cheap) after which he'd be unrestricted.

#2617406 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by Buppy on 29 June 2015 - 10:55 PM

I think if holland signed anyone people on here would be complaining about it. There's nobody in this UFA class that is worth overpaying for. I would love to have green but he's going to get paid way too much and that kind of overpayment wouldn't be worth throwing a wrench in the development of our prospects. At least one of those guys (ouellette, marchenko, sproul, Jensen) needs to get significant playing time next year

There's maybe not even anyone worth underpaying. Just adds to the logjam and depending on how Datsyuk and Zetterberg go, we could still be a worse team next year.


I'm all for some trades, and if we were to move a few people out it could make room for a UFA or two. But I hope Holland isn't feeling any pressure to sign someone just to appease the fans or upper management. 

#2617348 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by Buppy on 29 June 2015 - 06:48 PM

Can't Ryan sproul and jensen be sent down without having to go through waivers???

Yes, the article is wrong. All four defensemen are waiver exempt for the coming season.

#2616877 Dougie hamilton to calgary

Posted by Buppy on 27 June 2015 - 03:39 AM

A 1st and 2 2nd's? That is it? But oh yeah, big name players NEVER get traded. Wasn't that the line from some of you a week or so ago? I think I remember reading that somewhere before........


The only way this makes sense for Boston is if Hamilton told them he wouldn't re-sign with them.

People were disagreeing with your notion that Stamkos, Kopitar, and Seabrook will be traded. It wouldn't even make sense to say that in regards to all "big name players" since (depending on what you consider a big name) trades like that happen practically every year.


And this trade doesn't make sense for Boston no matter what. 

#2616825 2015 Draft

Posted by Buppy on 26 June 2015 - 09:29 PM

Kylington and Roy both still available. Would be great if we could find an early 2nd somewhere without giving up much.

#2615536 2015 Draft

Posted by Buppy on 20 June 2015 - 11:51 PM

Why do people think Strome is so good, yes he's a good PLAY maker, that's like picking Joe Thornton over Toews, now I bet if Larkin played in the O(He was drafted into one of those Canadian leagues) he would've been a 100 point guy I'm sorry but your a stupid gm if you take an amazing play maker over an amazing two way forward, unless you wanna play golf in the Spring like Crosby, to me Toews probably has the highest trade value in the league right now. I hate Chicago but you can't deny it who cares if he isn't point per game, he led a s*** franchise to 3 cups.
Do you want the Stanley cup or do you want money? Strome will bring you money Larkin will bring you a cup, two way forwards(centers) are the most valuable players in the league and on your team when they are elite(Toews, Datsyuk, Kopitar)

Strome is pretty good defensively himself.

#2615367 2015 Draft

Posted by Buppy on 19 June 2015 - 06:34 PM

Does anyone know why people are projecting kylington to fall so far?
Wasn't he in the same conversation as provorov and Werenski?

I think the biggest reason is because he missed World Juniors with an injury. Also didn't play all that great afterward. Got demoted to the Swedish junior league. Also a defensive liability right now.

But he has elite skating and skill by all accounts. Good sense. Someone will be happy they grabbed him in the late first/early second.

#2615185 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Buppy on 19 June 2015 - 12:37 AM

So the hawks don't really have 15 defensemen as prospects and the wings have 8? And they aren't much better than ours?

Damn hockeysfuture ... Damn you

Having a bunch of prospects really only means they'll have more washouts and trade throw-ins when they run out of contract slots to sign all those guys.


I don't put much stock in HF ratings. 6.5 seems like their default rating. Could mean a pretty decent player like Marchenko, or someone who will almost certainly never see the NHL like Aubry. The letter grades seem to be C by default, B if the player is just about at the predicted rating already, and D if the player is all but washed out.


Yeah, we lost three defense prospects this year, so our total number is low. But that's no reason to go chasing Chicago's garbage. We already have more guys running out of options than we have room. We need a few guys that are further away than what Chicago will be trying to dump. We'll try to draft a few this year, a few more next year, and so on, and our shortage of D prospects will be taken care of that way. If we're going to trade for D, it needs to be someone better than someone on our current roster.


Besides, Chicago's depth is nothing. Dallas has the real goods. :)