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#2550710 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by gcom007 on 21 November 2014 - 01:08 AM

To me, this is a transition/development year. We're not really looking to balls-out contend quite yet. We're setting up for next season, two seasons from now, three seasons from now. Case in point: we've got all of six skaters who are solidly in their prime years, and they are Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Quincey, Kindl, Ericsson. (Woof.) And, just as tellingly, we're carrying ten skaters who are 25 or younger (i.e. not yet solidly in their prime years): Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Andersson, Glendening, Smith, DeKeyser, Lashoff, Ouellet. And we've got Mantha, Pulkkinen, Sproul, et al. on the horizon.

 

When you look at it that way, and you consider how well this team's done through these first 18 games (23 points, 50 GF, 42 GA, strong possession numbers, top-end PK, six players with ten or more points), I think you have to be pretty happy with what's going on and pretty excited about what's to come.

 

Hell, I'm not convinced we don't stand a chance to make a stink in the playoffs this year, even if we don't make any deals. We're certainly more poised than we've been the last couple of years with this roster playing as well as they have been. If Babcock can get them to elevate their game for the playoffs and Howard really locks it down, they just might surprise a whole lot of people.




#2550338 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Dabura on 20 November 2014 - 07:41 PM

To me, this is a transition/development year. We're not really looking to balls-out contend quite yet. We're setting up for next season, two seasons from now, three seasons from now. Case in point: we've got all of six skaters who are solidly in their prime years, and they are Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Quincey, Kindl, Ericsson. (Woof.) And, just as tellingly, we're carrying ten skaters who are 25 or younger (i.e. not yet solidly in their prime years): Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Andersson, Glendening, Smith, DeKeyser, Lashoff, Ouellet. And we've got Mantha, Pulkkinen, Sproul, et al. on the horizon.

 

When you look at it that way, and you consider how well this team's done through these first 18 games (23 points, 50 GF, 42 GA, strong possession numbers, top-end PK, six players with ten or more points), I think you have to be pretty happy with what's going on and pretty excited about what's to come.




#2550910 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 November 2014 - 02:19 AM

Noooooooo that makes me think his glass groin is still f'd and he's playing timid.

Or maybe he just hasn't play hockey in a long time.




#2550197 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

At that point, I feel like teams are willing to see what they have in their players to start the season. Now they've had a chance to see who's working out/who is not.

I would be worried to call Cally up at this point in the year - I think someone would grab him. Definitely think he's got more value than Nestrasil.

 

Well he definitely seems to be showing that his scoring from last season was not a fluke.  It's an absolute shame we can't get this kid into the lineup.  I think he'd be a beast in front of the net on the PP. 

 

But you're right, they probably were waiting to see what they had at the beginning of the year.  The Hurricanes, at least, looked decent on paper. 




#2550209 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 01:56 PM

Ok, I relent.  Nothing he could have done to protect himself.  At least we can all agree he's better than Terrell Owens. 




#2550202 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 01:33 PM

 

And I don't understand the need to coddle adults instead of expecting them to make intelligent decisions for themselves.  I was responsible for a squad of five other guys in Baghdad, Iraq when I was 20 years old.  I guess I just don't have a ton of sympathy for a guy who's not smart enough by the age of 25 to hire an accountant.

 

Then again, that's all a matter of perspective.

 

Coddling him?   I don't know the guy.  It's not like by me expressing sympathy on an internet forum he's somehow not going to learn his lesson and lose millions more.  I just don't hate him for his mistake  (Though honestly as a player I've never really liked him. I thought he was overhyped since his days at U of M). 

 

 

I'm just saying my response is "that sucks the dude got ripped of by his parents" rather than "what an idiot! He gets what he deserves!"  

 

Naive or not, that's a pretty crappy thing to have your parents do that to you.  




#2550170 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 12:26 PM

 

They shouldn't have been handling his money in the first place.  I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to pick up on.  Do any of you have a joint bank account with your parents?  Do any of you let your parents buy things in your name, or with your money?  When was the last time you looked at your bank account and thought "hmmm, mom didn't spend as much as I thought she would?".  Never?  That's because only stupid people let others (including their parents) spend their money. 

 

You are assuming he expected them to make the financial transactions themselves, versus them being the ones to go out and find financial advisors to handle his money.  

 

He was a 25 year old who just signed a contract for 30 million dollars, which isn't quite the same situation as having your parents on your checking account.  It's a tremendous amount of money and people start coming out of the woodwork to get a piece of it.  So he put it in the hands of people he trusted while he went out and earned it.  I'd venture to guess he's not the only pro athlete who's done this and most of the time it works out.

 

I'm not sure why that's so hard for you to pick up on.




#2550163 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 12:20 PM

 

The last person I'd trust to handle my multi-million dollar estate is my mother too.  She's a secretary.  No matter how much I love her that doesn't make her capable of handling millions of dollars in assets intelligently or responsibly.  I know this.  Jack Johnson, however, doesn't.  That's why he's an idiot. 

 

NOTE TO ALL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES:

Hire professionals to take care of your money.  You wouldn't let your parents repair your car, fill your cavities, or install your water heater.  Why would you let them handle your millions of dollars in wealth?

 

 

It's not like he gave the money to his mom and said "go play the stock market."  According to one source she did things like bought a house in Manhattan beach with his money, then lied to him saying they paid for it with a relative's inheritance. 


So it's not just about ignorance of handling money and more about his parents completely taking advantage of him and not looking out for his best interests.

 

Obviously in hindsight he should've found a financial adviser, but I can imagine being 25 years old, who just signed this giant contract.  There's people all around you licking their chops to get at that money and take advantage of you, so who do you trust?  You just don't expect it to be your parents.  




#2550178 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 12:45 PM

 

I'm not so sure why it's so hard for you to pick up on the fact that if you want your money to be safe you should give it to professionals. 

 

Also, 25 isn't that young or naive.  Stop acting like he's a child star or something. 

 

By age 25 Mark Zuckerberg was a billionaire.  And you know what he probably didn't do?  Give access to that money to his parents.  Because he's not an idiot. 

 

Mark Zuckerberg is hardly a typical example of a 25 year old, so that analogy means nothing. 

 

Actually, Jack Johnson isn't that different from a child star given how athletes are often treated when they excel at a young age.  I'm just saying I can understand not knowing who to trust, so you trust your mom to figure it out for you.  I don't feel the need to call someone an idiot for that. Naive maybe.  I just don't understand the angry reaction people have to a dude who got ripped off by his parents. 




#2550156 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 12:15 PM

And yet nobody claimed Callahan when he was waived to begin the season.  Strange.




#2550146 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 12:05 PM

He's an idiot? Really?

I can't speak for anyone else, but the last person in this world I'd expect to screw me over financially is my mother. It's one thing to be awful with money, but what they did with his money goes beyond being financially irresponsible - they milked the **** out of him. They treated him like a cash cow and ran his debt into the ground. The amount they spent/lost has more to do with their greed and taking advantage of a situation than it does with making smart decisions. Disgusting on their part.

 

 

Agreed. 

 

When I first saw the headline I thought "what a moron."  But reading more about it and hearing what his parents did puts  it in a whole different light for me. 

 

I guess you can blame him for being naive and not picking up on the problem earlier, but it's his friggin parents.  The guy is likely busy playing hockey and trusting that his mother will be handling things and looking out for his best interests. 

 

Not having an agent didn't help.  Agents are often evil, but a necessary one in the entertainment business. 




#2550141 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 20 November 2014 - 11:55 AM

 
The last person I'd trust to handle my multi-million dollar estate is my mother too.  She's a secretary.  No matter how much I love her that doesn't make her capable of handling millions of dollars in assets intelligently or responsibly.  I know this.  Jack Johnson, however, doesn't.  That's why he's an idiot. 
 
NOTE TO ALL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES:
Hire professionals to take care of your money.  You wouldn't let your parents repair your car, fill your cavities, or install your water heater.  Why would you let them handle your millions of dollars in wealth?

my Dads really good with cars.
And he helped put in my water heater.
And he pulled a bunch of my baby teeth.


#2550136 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by Echolalia on 20 November 2014 - 11:35 AM

Yep. I think it could have been handled better - simply just for precautionary measures, beyond the possibility of infection. Considering where they were in the game (which is basically my point, but by all means, keep focusing on the infection aspect and giving me a detailed history on "Fluky Hand Injuries: NHL Coaches and the Players They've Doghoused). Just my opinion on it.

I think a more reasonable approach would be to not fight to begin with




#2550093 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by gcom007 on 20 November 2014 - 01:06 AM

Call me optimistic, but I still think it'll be interesting to see how Weiss responds when actually getting a chance. Based on his history, he's plenty capable of becoming an important part of this team's offense moving forward. That was the goal when signing him and it's still possible that he could rise to meet that goal, and perhaps be better if given the right opportunities in time.

 

And yeah, I get it, it's unlikely, and perhaps a bit crazy to think that at this point, but I think you've got to see how he does as a regular in the lineup before you do anything drastic.




#2550041 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 November 2014 - 02:42 PM

Larkin has 8 points in 9 games as a freshman at Michigan.  I'd say that makes him a pretty good prospect.