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#2556839 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by DickieDunn on 15 December 2014 - 08:29 AM

Well I doubt he'd go anywhere else so that line isn't untrue. It says further up that he is very unhappy with the situation in Grand Rapids right now and I really wonder if there's anything to that.

 

He might be unhappy, but European newspaper are notoriously bad at actually reporting facts.  They basically say "we want this to happen so we're going to report it like it's actually a possibility."  It sounds more like the "___ really wants to come to Toronto" stuff we see out of the media there.




#2556844 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 11:01 AM

I have no problem with Darren Helm...as a third line center.  I think in that role he's got a comparative advantage over almost every other third line center in the league.  I also think, in that role, he can take on more defensive responsibility (which he seems good at), thus allowing us to exploit matchups. 

 

Where I don't like Darren Helm, as should be obvious, is on a scoring line wing.  Sure he can be made to look decent there (Ian White could be made to look decent on a top defensive pairing too), but that obscures the fact that his talents are better utilized elsewhere, and somone else (who has the skill set needed to be a top six winger) could be slotted in that spot for maximum efficiency. 

 

But what do I know?  I'm as wrong about the roster as I am right most of the time.  Nevertheless, I'll beat the drum for moving Helm, not because I don't like him, but because he's redundant on this team and we've got a couple of needs to fill to be a true Cup competitor (in my opinion).




#2556042 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by DickieDunn on 12 December 2014 - 07:21 PM

I would trade anyone doe the right deal. A risk isn't the right deal though, and Myers is a risk. He could turn into a stud after a trade like Chara and Pronged, or he could continue to play like a deer caught in the headlights and miss 20% of each season, or he could just settle into being a decent second pair D.


#2555990 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 12 December 2014 - 01:48 PM

My worry is that Holland sees this year's team as a contender, and is going to try to land a high-end defender by overpaying. Generally, it's a good idea if you've got a shot at the cup. If that means one of two of the defensive prospects, then sure... but I hope he steers clear of the forwards for the most part. I haven't watched as much of the Griffins as I would have liked this season, but I've heard/seen tons of people raving about AA. To be honest, I'm more worried about moving someone like Tatar, Jurco or Mantha. I really want those wingers to stick around.

The thing is, I do think ONE of our prospect centers should be made available for the right deal. I'm not saying they should just move one for a rental, and I definitely don't think Myers is the right deal. The thing is, Sheahan has exceeded my expectations in terms of the offensive potential he's shown this season. If we've got Sheahan, Larkin and AA as potential top 6 centers, combined with the remaining years of Z, Weiss and perhaps Helm... I would be fine with moving one for a significant upgrade on the blueline. When you look at the whole picture and factor in the years of overlap with the vets and younger players, I actually think we could be in good shape up the middle.

Yea, we definitely could be...
But if larkin stays at um for lets say three years, Pavels contract will then be up.
Helms health is a concern, as is Weiss', yeah we have some prospects looking good for the future but I don't expect them to pan out as much as our current crop of kids did.
Not because I don'thave faith in the org. Just that id rather have more chances at one of them surpassing expectations.

Aa has the skill and speed to be great, I've been super high on him for awhile now, actually found lgw looking for people talking about him.


Yeah we have great depth now at c, but Pavel and z are getting up there, and id love to remain deep there in the future.


#2555795 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by rick zombo on 11 December 2014 - 11:42 AM

Until any of this is confirmed......

 

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#2555126 Theoretical "Expansion Draft" implications - Who to protect?

Posted by DSM on 09 December 2014 - 05:04 PM

I get that we would be fine if it were this season, but I feel like it's going to be pushed back a year or so. I would be absolutely shocked if there was an expansion draft this June. That's where I'm worried, as we won't have a goaltender who has the experience requirements outside of Howard and Mrazek. Though, as you mentioned, they could keep Petr in the minors for another season. Not exactly an ideal situation for the Wings.

Alternatively, they could swing a deal for a vet goalie (like the Ranford situation) before the expansion draft. Giving up assets just to protect your goaltenders isn't exactly ideal either, though. Goaltending really is the only situation I'm worried about at this point. It would suck to lose Helm or Abdelkader, but not as much as losing Howard or Mrazek. I almost envy a team like Toronto - "Here, take Reimer. Go right ahead."
 

 

Then again, giving up those assets to protect a better asset is an OK situation when you are going to lose something measureable anyway. Coughing up a middling prospect or a 4th rounder to bring in a McElhinney type before the expansion draft would be way better than having to expose Mrazek or Howard, who would both go claimed without hesitation....

 

You are right though, no way an expansion happens until atleast June 2016. Nashville built an arena in 1996 and made their presentation the the NHL in 1997. The NHL made their announcement in June of that year, and put the draft in June 1998. That gave teams plenty of time to prepare.

 

I just made this as a hypothetical "What if", to give "GM's" bored with NHL15 a voice. lol




#2554761 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by gcom007 on 08 December 2014 - 12:51 AM

Why bother right now? We're tied for 2nd in the league. The team for the most part looks great. Sure, it may be reasonable to say we're operating on a best case scenario trajectory, but right now, it's working. If it keeps up, we'll be a destination at the deadline and the fact that we don't really need to make any major moves will give us a bit of leverage. Maybe then we find a halfway-decent 3/4 defenseman to tighten up the pairings. That's about all we really need at this point. Sure, some of the kids could dry up, it wouldn't be the first time, but we've got more of them who could come up and perhaps play well.

 

But all in all, I just don't think offense is or is going to be our problem, and I think we should wait and see what opportunities arise closer to the deadline now that we might actually make it on to a few guy's lists. Otherwise, there's just no compelling reason to shake things up right now.




#2552683 Lines Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 29 November 2014 - 04:34 PM

I don't understand how it is so difficult to get rid of Kindl. There are plenty of teams out there hurting on the blueline due to injuries right now. There has to be someone willing to take him for a low pick at this point to keep XO in the lineup. 




#2552401 Why is Kindl not playing?

Posted by GoWings1905 on 28 November 2014 - 01:29 PM

 

He won't put up Mantha numbers but I think we would really regret trading Larkin down the road, I get the impression he's a great kid and works his ass off.

 

Agreed. I also think the Wings need to hang on to Larkin because they really lack potential high-end centers right now in the organization. If they make a trade to address needs this season, they can deal from a position of strength having so many defense prospects on the brink of the NHL. 




#2550710 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by gcom007 on 21 November 2014 - 01:08 AM

To me, this is a transition/development year. We're not really looking to balls-out contend quite yet. We're setting up for next season, two seasons from now, three seasons from now. Case in point: we've got all of six skaters who are solidly in their prime years, and they are Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Quincey, Kindl, Ericsson. (Woof.) And, just as tellingly, we're carrying ten skaters who are 25 or younger (i.e. not yet solidly in their prime years): Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Andersson, Glendening, Smith, DeKeyser, Lashoff, Ouellet. And we've got Mantha, Pulkkinen, Sproul, et al. on the horizon.

 

When you look at it that way, and you consider how well this team's done through these first 18 games (23 points, 50 GF, 42 GA, strong possession numbers, top-end PK, six players with ten or more points), I think you have to be pretty happy with what's going on and pretty excited about what's to come.

 

Hell, I'm not convinced we don't stand a chance to make a stink in the playoffs this year, even if we don't make any deals. We're certainly more poised than we've been the last couple of years with this roster playing as well as they have been. If Babcock can get them to elevate their game for the playoffs and Howard really locks it down, they just might surprise a whole lot of people.




#2550338 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Dabura on 20 November 2014 - 07:41 PM

To me, this is a transition/development year. We're not really looking to balls-out contend quite yet. We're setting up for next season, two seasons from now, three seasons from now. Case in point: we've got all of six skaters who are solidly in their prime years, and they are Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Quincey, Kindl, Ericsson. (Woof.) And, just as tellingly, we're carrying ten skaters who are 25 or younger (i.e. not yet solidly in their prime years): Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Andersson, Glendening, Smith, DeKeyser, Lashoff, Ouellet. And we've got Mantha, Pulkkinen, Sproul, et al. on the horizon.

 

When you look at it that way, and you consider how well this team's done through these first 18 games (23 points, 50 GF, 42 GA, strong possession numbers, top-end PK, six players with ten or more points), I think you have to be pretty happy with what's going on and pretty excited about what's to come.




#2550910 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 November 2014 - 02:19 AM

Noooooooo that makes me think his glass groin is still f'd and he's playing timid.

Or maybe he just hasn't play hockey in a long time.




#2550197 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

At that point, I feel like teams are willing to see what they have in their players to start the season. Now they've had a chance to see who's working out/who is not.

I would be worried to call Cally up at this point in the year - I think someone would grab him. Definitely think he's got more value than Nestrasil.

 

Well he definitely seems to be showing that his scoring from last season was not a fluke.  It's an absolute shame we can't get this kid into the lineup.  I think he'd be a beast in front of the net on the PP. 

 

But you're right, they probably were waiting to see what they had at the beginning of the year.  The Hurricanes, at least, looked decent on paper. 




#2550209 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 01:56 PM

Ok, I relent.  Nothing he could have done to protect himself.  At least we can all agree he's better than Terrell Owens. 




#2550202 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 November 2014 - 01:33 PM

 

And I don't understand the need to coddle adults instead of expecting them to make intelligent decisions for themselves.  I was responsible for a squad of five other guys in Baghdad, Iraq when I was 20 years old.  I guess I just don't have a ton of sympathy for a guy who's not smart enough by the age of 25 to hire an accountant.

 

Then again, that's all a matter of perspective.

 

Coddling him?   I don't know the guy.  It's not like by me expressing sympathy on an internet forum he's somehow not going to learn his lesson and lose millions more.  I just don't hate him for his mistake  (Though honestly as a player I've never really liked him. I thought he was overhyped since his days at U of M). 

 

 

I'm just saying my response is "that sucks the dude got ripped of by his parents" rather than "what an idiot! He gets what he deserves!"  

 

Naive or not, that's a pretty crappy thing to have your parents do that to you.