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#2533002 Ferraro re-signed: 1-year $550K (2-way)

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 July 2014 - 11:46 AM

I agree that it would suck to lose him for nothing, as goes for any asset, but Landon Ferraro, in my opinion is a fringe NHL player at best. Besides we more than made up for the potential loss with all the other signings this offseason. Surely one of the 6 or 7 guys we signed (Miele, Zengerle, Porter, Nosek, Berschbach, Hirschfield, Campbell) will become equal to or better than Ferraro. Now if we lose Callahan for nothing, I will be pissed.




#2532958 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by nawein on 24 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

Tatar had a good rookie year. But he's still unproven so I'm not sure why people think he should get his payday now. He'll get a prove it contract and that's what's best for both sides.

As far as people comparing Tats and Pavs rookie years, it honestly means nothing. Peter Mueller had a comparable rookie year to Anze Kopitar, who both had had better years than Patrice Bergeron, and they all had worse years than Dany Heatley. Now two of them are scrubs and 2 are elite forwards. I'm glad Tatar had a good rookie year, now he has to prove he can continue to do that and improve.


#2532927 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 July 2014 - 06:30 AM

Pucktividi, it doesn't and shouldn't always come down to who is the better player, sometimes it has to be a more calculated decision. When it comes down to handing a roster spot to a (21 year old) kid that still has another year of waiver exemption (Tomas Jurco), or re-signing a (future hall-of-fame) veteran to a reasonable contract (Daniel Alfredsson), I would pick the second one 95% of the time.

 

In my opinion there are a number of reasons for doing this. One being point production. In this case, both player will more than likely produce the same number of points, my guess being between 40-50. Secondly, development. I'm a big believer that a player is much better off playing top line minutes in all situations in the minors rather than getting sheltered minutes and no special teams in the pros. Another thing would be confidence. This doesn't apply as much to a player like Jurco as much as Mantha, but confidence can definitely be completely diminished if thrown in to the deep end too early. I'm sure there are even more reasons but I'm going to finish off with team depth. A veteran player like Alfredsson is brought in, while a great young kid like Jurco is buried to increase the overall depth of the team. When the inevitable injuries hit, Jurco / Mantha are great first call ups.

 

Everyone is well aware of how highly I regard Jurco, he is far and away my favorite prospect and will more than likely be my favorite Red Wing in a few years. Hell, I'm getting a new dog in a couple months and I'm between two names, Zetty and Jurco and I'm leaning toward Jurco... I cannot wait for this kid to be up full time with the Wings, however I still believe that another year in the American League is the best thing for his development, and because of that, I'm confident that is where he will end up.




#2532861 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...




#2532813 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Dabura on 22 July 2014 - 02:18 PM

I'd take him on a one-year deal. Why not. He's a proven producer. You win - and create roster depth - with proven producers. Manage his minutes, shelter him a bit, give him some nights off.

 

Zetterberg  Datsyuk  Jurco

Franzen  Weiss  Nyquist

Tatar  Sheahan  Alfredsson

Miller  Helm  Abdelkader




#2532624 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by GoWings1905 on 20 July 2014 - 11:25 AM

No worries they'll sign. Holland doesn't sign over priced UFA's for this reason. There's more then enough cap room to sign Tatar and DeKeyser, then Nyquist and Smith next off season.


You are aware he offered a ton of money for Niskanen and more than Boyle received from the Rangers? Just because Holland doesn't know why free agents aren't coming here doesn't mean he hasn't been trying.

Besides, how do you not classify Quincey as an overpriced UFA?


#2531953 WHY NOT DEREK MORRIS

Posted by DickieDunn on 13 July 2014 - 05:37 PM

Wings don't need a 3rd pair guy


#2531588 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by ManLuv4Clears on 11 July 2014 - 02:01 PM

Ugh, does anyone know if we have the ability to change usernames?   :paperbag3:  




#2531594 McCollum signed.

Posted by Echolalia on 11 July 2014 - 02:12 PM

He's a bit iffy at times, but a decent AHL backup. Doubt he'll ever be anything more than that though.


I don't follow that Griffins all that closely, but from what I've gathered, after his terrible struggles from a couple years ago, McCollum really rebounded well and likely could have been a solid 1 last year. Unfortunately for him, the Wings also have Hasek jr. in Mrazek, and nobody in the AHL will take the 1 spot from that kid. Anyway, I think if he keeps his pace up, McCollum can break into the NHL, perhaps as a back-up.


#2531046 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by T.Low on 10 July 2014 - 03:00 PM

Thanks for the update on the Jarnkrok Legwand trade' was curious about the status of that.


#2530941 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 09 July 2014 - 10:33 PM

To be honest, I'm not sure if Frk's ever going to get his positioning together, but I do think he can fit into a niche if he puts in the proper off-season work. I agree that he benefited from his teammates, and his skating and lackluster two-way play hurt him. I still think he's going to have a better season than last - although, I do believe that he's going to have to impress Blashill right off the bat to get minutes.

If I'm Frk, I bust my hide in the gym and turn into a puck hound. He's still got that wicked shot, but I think he's the kind of guy who'd be smart to become a "piano puller" on a line - dig for pucks in the corner, get in front of the net, etc. He's never going to be the catalyst on a line, but I think he could be a good complimentary piece/PP guy.

 

I agree.  I always thought that in the best case scenario he'd model his game off of Vanek.  He's not the greatest skater in the world either, but he's got a good shot, is sturdy down around the crease, and is a physically strong guy who's not afraid of contact. 

 

I don't know if it's too late for Frk to be a poor man's Vanek, but that's probably the guy I see in him the most. 




#2530845 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by ogreslayer on 09 July 2014 - 01:46 PM

 

As Kip mentioned, it's part of negotiating. They likely ask for Mantha, Detroit replies with Ferraro. And for the record, I'd take Red Green for comedic relief on the 4th line.

The Legwand trade was made out of desperation. Poile had Holland over a barrel there.

 

But then where does Cleary fit in if he re-signs?




#2530821 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 July 2014 - 01:04 PM

But...but the streak man....the streak!

 

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#2530123 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by number9 on 05 July 2014 - 02:50 PM

Plus we have Nosek Campbell Porter Miele Pulkinnen and now possibly AA and Mantha fighting for a forward position. Just adding one of those guys puts us at the 23 man roster limit assuming Danny D and Tatar re-sign. There's no room for Legwand whether u like it or not.
And there's Ferraro and Callahan. Lots of prospects clamoring to play.


#2529401 Well...at least we're not Philadelphia. Giroux Arrested.

Posted by rrasco on 02 July 2014 - 10:53 AM

I don't care, this is hilarious.  Almost as funny as tinky winky