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#2667304 Mantha

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 April 2016 - 02:13 PM

It comes down to coaching style. I feel like Blashill was kind of set toward utilizing the strengths of younger, offensive players at the beginning of the year, but as time went on got spooked and went the safe route. He seems committed to the latter now, which is unfortunate. Every situation is different, but he's going to have to let the kids play eventually, and not all of them are going to be the dependable, two-way skaters he's looking to create. 

I remember reading some quotes from Larionov awhile back (I think he was discussing Yakupov) about how coaching in today's NHL is sucking the creativity out of the game. Coaches are trying to mold every player into the same style of skater, which doesn't translate with the offensively-inclined guys, obviously. I think this is a good take on how Dave Hakstol approached Gostisbhere in Philly.

 

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I'm not saying Blashill should let Smith, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc roam free, but I think he should be more receptive to it. You can have guys who take chances and compliment them with dependable partners/linemates. When you watch Gostisbehere, he's going to make mistakes, but he's also allowed to be a dynamic player. It's a double-edged sword.




#2667020 Playoff Lines + Mantha Back to GR

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 April 2016 - 08:26 AM

I'm far from Richards' biggest critic, and I actually think he has been pretty good for us this season. But I'm of the mindset, that we should be playing this years' playoffs to prepare our kids for the future. There's no way Richards is with this team next season, at least there's no way he should be... And let's face it, short of a miracle, this team is not winning the Cup this season. I'd rather put together a lineup that will somewhat resemble what we are going to ice next year, get the kids some all important playoff experience, rely heavily on the youth and allow them to soak up as much as they can from one of the most naturally skilled, all around forwards the NHL has maybe ever seen...


With the news about Pavel, this is the first thing I thought about. It has Ken Holland written all over it. The triumphant return of Brad Richards: second-line center/fourth-line right winger.

For the record, I think he's played well down the stretch, too.




#2666904 Mantha

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 April 2016 - 05:02 PM

True, that probably wasn't the best way to phrase what he was trying to say. But on the bright side, he also said: “If we do need him in the series, he needs to be playing.” So at least he's not completely shutting the door on Mantha being called back up.

 

 

Yeah, I love Mantha, but I don't think he's grabbed a spot yet. 3 pts. in 10 games. -6. Looked fine, but still needs to round his game out. Let him go be a star in the AHL playoffs

 

I think Jurco would be better suited to the 4th line spot that's likely open. 

 

Some are saying that Holland's stuck in the past, but: Lark, AA, Marchenko, then Tat, Ny Shea and maybe Jurco, Pulkinnen. It's already a pretty young roster.

 

Hopefully Mantha will grab a spot for most of next year though. There will be opportunity with Pav gone.


Right. And I get where you're both coming from, and why Holland sent him down. I may not agree with some of Holland's roster moves, but if the situation is 6-10 minutes a night/healthy scratch or playing in the AHL, I get why Kenny chose the latter. They wanted him in a top-six role on the team, and they don't feel like he's done enough to earn that role. He's not a 6-10 minute kind of player.

What I don't get is referring to one of your top prospects as a "spare part", and asking why anyone would think he'd be "the answer". I wonder if Kenny knows what the answer is...




#2666884 Mantha

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 April 2016 - 04:28 PM

What has Mantha done to earn a roster spot in the playoffs?  Not a thing.


Which is whatever, if Holland feels that way. People may disagree, but it's management's call.

Management throwing him under the bus (again - Devellano), however, doesn't feel like it's conducive to Mantha's growth. Don't see how the jab was necessary or helpful.




#2666878 Mantha

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 April 2016 - 04:07 PM

This line from Holland. Just... wow: http://www.detroitne...yoffs/82866748/
 

 

 

“Anthony Mantha was a spare part in the (AHL) Calder Cup playoffs a year ago. Why does anyone think he is going to be the answer in Detroit?”

 

I don't get the thought process behind saying something like that. At all.




#2664755 Forward Line Combos/Discussion

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 April 2016 - 12:34 PM

Just a guess on my part, but I think it comes down to Blashill swapping Richards for Mantha, and now deciding to use Sheahan on the 2nd PP unit. That leaves Mantha with limited minutes on the 4th line, and no usage on special teams. Unlike Athanasiou, Mantha doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to have much of an impact playing 6-8 minutes. The fans might not like it, but it's the way Blashill's positioned him for the time being.

That said, I don't get why Blash seems so insistent on double dipping with his players. Now it's Abdelkader and Sheahan playing on both the PP and PK, with Abdelkader ranked 2nd in SH TOI/GP for over a month now. In that span, the team's PK is 25th overall in the league. You can attribute the issues to any number of things, but I can see how overusing Abdelkader might be one of them.

It's not like this team is void of dependable PK guys - use AA a little on the 2nd PK unit. Heck, at the very least, use Helm more. He's proven to be a capable penalty killer over the years - he has that "resume". It's probably the biggest gripe I have with Blashill - he seems to try to "play it safe" too often, and goes back to the same well over and over. Hopefully that changes as he and the team adjust to each other.

Edit: It took Abdelkader being in the box, but...




#2663910 2016 Playoffs % chances (part II)

Posted by Jesusberg on 02 April 2016 - 10:27 AM

The Leafs are starting Sparks tonight. Bernier had a 1.92 GAA, and .938 Sv% in March, which includes his shutout against Detroit. It sure feels like Babcock is throwing the Wings a softball here.




#2663727 4/1 GDT : Minnesota Wild at Red Wings, 7:30 ET

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 April 2016 - 05:59 PM

Honestly, it doesn't matter where Athanasiou and/or Mantha slot in. Their ice time is going to stay the same because of how Blashill utilizes them in relation to special teams. Mantha gets a few minutes more because of the power play.

Glendening's minutes are where they are because spends far too much time on the penalty kill, and because Blash decides to use him when he shortens the bench late in games.

Edit: Looks like Dubnyk's in for the Wild tonight. I expect them to have a lot of jump after last night. Wings need to survive early.




#2663686 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 April 2016 - 01:08 PM

I think I'll just conserve my energy for next season. I'm less than thrilled with the team, but there's no quick fix to the situation. The only real changes I see next year are letting Quincey (Ouellet on roster) and Richards go (UFA or someone from within for the fourth line - Nosek, possibly?). Depending on where the salary cap is, I could see them bringing Helm back into the fold. He's likely to be overpaid for his role on the team, though.

Outside of that, most of the changes need to come from within. Blame Holland, Blashill, Ferschweiler, whoever you want - it doesn't really make a difference, but it probably feels good to do it. I'd wager that at the end of the day, they're going to attribute missing the playoffs to the league being really tight, and the poor power play numbers. I don't think missing the playoffs is going to be the wake-up call some fans believe it could be. Am I upset? Yeah. Do I have ideas about what I'd prefer to see over what's going on now? Absolutely. Neither of those have any impact on what's going to happen with this team, and to be honest, I think we're in for some frustration for the next 2-3 seasons.




#2662515 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Jesusberg on 28 March 2016 - 11:54 AM

Dickie, Nyquist and Tatar are quality secondary players whether you want to admit it or not. Their advanced stats are very good for what is expected of them and they provide offense. They production has dipped a little but I think that's more to do with the rest of the team than them individually... I'm not that high on Pulkkinen but he certainly hasn't peaked, and he still has room to grow as a player. I don't think it's fair to say "he is what he is" before he's even been given a chance... Jurco will be fine. Everything else I agree with. The vets shouldn't be leaned on near as much as they have been and the kids should get more ice time. There is no reason Athanasiou and Mantha should both be scratched for entire third periods...


Agreed. Nyquist has 28 EVP his season. Last season? 30. The power play has hurt him, big time.

As far as Tatar is concerned, his shot totals from 2014-15 to 2015-16 are down from 211 to 152. I'd wager that having your playing time trimmed down by nearly two minutes might have that effect, though.

Not making excuses for either guy, but it's not really fair to place the blame on them as individuals.




#2662508 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Jesusberg on 28 March 2016 - 11:25 AM

I'm not entirely sure how to fix the mess, but I do know a few things:

1. The powerplay is an atrocious mess that should have been fixed awhile back. They've done next-to-nothing to change it up all season long. A number of the players have similar EV point totals compared to last season's, but they PP has really hurt the offensive totals for most on the team.

2. There's no way they should be leaning on Datsyuk and Zetterberg as heavily as they have. Through February, both guys (along with Abdelkader) were playing 20+ minutes a night. They were 4th and 5th in the league in time on ice. It's gone down this month, but only because Blash separated them. When your primary, go-to offense guys aren't getting it done, try leaning on some of the younger guys.

3. As critical as I've been of Smith in the past, there's no way he should be sitting. He drives possession on this team. Blashill's system is suited for players with wheels. When I look at this defensive corps, I don't see many players well-suited for Blash's system. If you're not going to change it up, make better use of the players who CAN play within your system.




#2661264 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 March 2016 - 02:20 PM

Nice to see Tangradi sticking around. Figured he'd help out GR's top-six when he was signed in the summer, but he's done better than I expected. Hope Miele follows suit - a couple of good vets to have around the prospects.

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#2661251 Marchenko vs. Smith

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 March 2016 - 10:57 AM

Marchenko's had a real rough go as of late, and the underlying numbers support that. I was actually thinking that Quincey's looked rough lately as well, and the numbers also support that. Either way, Smith drives possession - I'd keep him in. Go numbers.




#2660929 Forward Line Combos/Discussion

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 March 2016 - 05:40 PM

Guess they were just messing around in practice?
 

The #RedWings lines in pregame: Abdelkader-Zetterberg-Larkin; Tatar-Datsyuk-Mantha; Nyquist-Sheahan-Athanasiou; Helm-Glendening-Richards.




#2660888 Forward Line Combos/Discussion

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 March 2016 - 07:59 AM

I don't mind the move, honestly. I'm not the biggest Helm fan, but it makes sense. He's not the ideal NFP, but he's one of the best guys on the team at getting to loose pucks around the net and creating issues for the oppositions defense. If he's around/behind the net jarring pucks free, it means Mantha's going to have more time to focus on getting open.

At this point, AA is going to get the same amount of minutes wherever he's at. It has more to do with special teams than anything else. He strikes me as a guy who does less with more right now, anyway.