Because the Tampa Bay lightening and their turd fans are now the opposition. And every thing they do is therefore stupid, sucky, and asinine. Whereas everything we do is absolutely right on a cosmic (almost divine) level. Because it's the playoffs...and they're stupid, and we rule.
I should have known better
Though, what I said wasn't directed at you. I've seen this stuff all over. Makes little sense to me.
Honestly, why do you guys/gals even care? Were/are you planning on going to Tampa Bay for game 1? I really don't see the issue with this - it's home ice. If a team wants to fill a building with their fans, that's their prerogative. Unless you live in Tampa and/or planned on making the trek down there, why do you even care at all? Seems like something to complain about.
Smith is better then most of our defenseman. Lets not act like this thread would be made if he didnt make a dumb mistake last night. Yes he can make silly plays, but everyone of our defenseman does the same s***. DeKesyer hasnt been that great this year but since hes everyones boy toy (probably because hes from Michigan), you dont hear much about him. Kronwall turns it over, same with Ericsson. Quincy is probably most reliable. But i guess since everyone had high hopes for Smith he gets bashed on the most.
I also like when people talk about "hockey smarts" like they actually played the game at a high level and understands what it takes. I guess its really easy.
Ericsson and Kronwall have both taken s*** recently from quite a few people on the forum, especially E.
You don't hear much about DeKeyser because he doesn't make too many glaring errors. He's has some issues as of late. I've noticed that he's made some poor decisions with the puck. More often than not, he can get the puck out of the zone. At the end of the day, that's really what I want from a second-pairing guy - just be reliable.
It doesn't take a ten-year veteran to see that DeKeyser is much more patient with the puck in his own zone. He slows the play down - he finds his out and makes the pass. Smith tosses the puck around like an epileptic hamster at times. That's why he gets harped on.
And I guess I'll say this here too. In the context of making a prediction about the outcome of a game, I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about someone predicting a loss. The point of a prediction, after all, is not to be unreasonably optimistic. The point is to be right about the outcome. If the team has been playing poorly, it isn't a stretch by any means to expect it to continue until given a reason otherwise.
And along those lines, I don't see the point to posts along the lines of "Well I know he's not playing great right now, but I'm going to blindly support him through it so when he finally does come through I can say 'I never lost faith in you'"
And I'm not saying you shouldn't hope that they bounce back, I think everybody hopes they do. But it seems more about telling all the "Haters" that you were right and they were wrong, when in fact the "haters" were just giving an honest assessment of the situation as it stood at that time.
I guess what I'm trying to say is when a player or team is performing poorly, there isn't anything wrong with saying so.
In response to the first bolded part, I get what you're saying. I think sometimes, though, there are members who continuously predict the team losing. It's one thing to predict that the Wings are going to lose to a "superior" team, or when they're in the middle of a funk. It's another to jump into every GDT and spew the same, "This team is soft - Ken Holland is garbage. We're losing 5-0."
To the second bolded portion, I think this discussion might be better served in another thread. I'm guessing it's in reference to Howard vs. Mrazek.
I think Smith is strong on the puck, has better defensive positioning than in previous seasons and is quicker than some of the other defenders on this team.
What kills me the most are the turnovers. You can almost always count on Smith having the puck behind/around the Wings' net and putting it on the other team's stick two-three times in a game. Those bury your team. At some point, he should have realized how to make those simple plays. It baffles me that he's never been able to refine that aspect of his game. Then, of course, the stupid penalties...
Either way, I expect him to play tomorrow. I'd be shocked if Babcock didn't give Kronwall a rest.
Let's see how long this can go without being shut down. Seriously. Let's think of it as a challenge.
Personally, I think every fan has a right to be negative. I get mad at this team all the time. For me, the important thing is putting into perspective later on - weeding out the reactive stuff from the "this is actually an issue" stuff. Initially, I was upset with the way Detroit clinched, then I read the article where Babcock said he didn't think this team was even a contender in July. It's easy to think "wow, they p***** it away", but really... they made it. Who cares how? Los Angeles and Boston are out, and the Red Wings just keep rolling. Model of consistency. I lost my perspective in the mess that was March, but I'm appreciative that this team has been this good for this long.
I think we're always going to look at another fan who views aspects of this team differently and say, "that's not how to be a fan". It's just how it is...
I assume he's looked "off" because he is coming to a new team, with new teammates, and a new system, and a different coach. AND he still produced points regularly...which is what good veteran players do.
Unless a guy is coming from an absolute dumpster fire of a team (e.g. Stafford and Buffalo), they're usually not going to produce more after they leave a situation they're comfortable with for a new team. And even Cole's points per game went down after coming to Detroit. But if you expected any differently, you were probably in error to begin with.
I had this sentence half-written, but then I considered Zidlicky. Sure, he's dropped off now. His production wasn't sustainable, but I thought he looked fantastic off the bat.
If anything, I find it weird how well he fit in right off the bat - he looked "on" right away. I think he's fallen off as time's gone on - shown his knack for bad penalties, lack of foot speed, getting too fancy in the offensive zone. I think Cole plays a simpler game that's going to translate well in the post-season. I'm optimistic that's he's got a couple "big goals" in him.
In other news, shinguard sales have plummeted in the last 24 hours. Logos says they feel safer than ever.
In all seriousness, I like the fortitude he showed. He didn't take s*** from anyone. The issue with Sammy was that Kenny signed him for two years too many, and he was taking up a roster spot. Appreciate everything he did for Detroit.
you know you're in trouble when your number one center is Kyle Chipchura #tanksohard
I wouldn't laugh too hard, we're one injury away from our number 1 center being Glendening.
Seriously. All this does is make it even more embarrassing if the Wings drop the ball here. I'm really hoping the take them down with much of an issue. Would be great to see Nyquist and Tatar get back on track, too.
Kindl out for a rookie.
Gustavsson out for Mrazek.
Andersson maybe out.
Anyone wanting a lot of changes is going to be disappointed.
Pretty much this. I would be absolutely shocked if they found someone to take Weiss' contract at this point. No one's going to touch Mule, IMO - he's either done and stuck on LTIR or he'll play for Detroit. Honestly, I think that Cleary and Gustavasson are the only surefire bets to leave. I'm really hoping they find a suitor for Kindl, and I'd like them to part ways with Andersson and give Callahan a crack at that 4th line RW spot.