Of all the vets on the team, I believe that Paetsch is just as, or more important than any of them, including captain Hoggan and top point producer Miele. As long as the whole gambling thing doesn't effect him playing next season, and it isn't a distraction for him or the team, he will be a very important part of the team once again. We have lots of veteran leadership up front, we definitely need some on the back end, Paetsch is a perfect fit. I hope he is paired back with Sproul again and he can really get him going this season. I still have high hopes for Sproul, but he hasn't quite figured out how to defend at the pro level yet. I'm hoping Paetsch can really help him in that regard.
Definitely agree with this. While it looks like Holland will have to make a move in Detroit (possibly Quincey or Kindl, allowing one of the ``kids`` to make the team, right now the defense down in GR looks something like:
I don't think people are saying that? It's more like... "Blashill says he's going to give Kindl and Smith a chance to play 'their' game in Detroit." I guess it depends on what you think KH has in mind. Is it going for it? If he is, he'll keep these seven defenders on the team. If he doesn't think this team can compete for the cup, he may very well have the mentality of, "well let's see what we have in these prospects" and allow them to rotate into that bottom pairing. It seemed as if that was his mentality a week ago.
Holland went on about the youth movement prior to signing Green and Richards - how these guys need to play in the NHL. Was most likely posturing, but I'm sure he feels the "kids" need to play soon, too.
It's not "Ugh, move Quincey, he's ****." It's more like the guy has one year left on his deal, after playing well all year. His is an easy contract to move to a team that thinks they need a solid LH shot. This team isn't moving Ericsson's albatross of a deal, and Blash is on record saying that he wants to give Kindl and Smith a shot. It's more like, "this move can be made to make room for a younger roster player."
The bottom line is that I think people are taking everything Holland and Blashill say as gospel, when really anything can change on any given day. Personally, I would like to see a spot on that bottom pairing used to rotate guys like Jensen, Marchenko and Ouellet into the lineup, but it's not the end of the day if it doesn't happen. Though, if this team isn't a cup contender, then why keep Quincey? Guess it depends on your perspective, really.
Take it for what it's worth, but I noticed a number of favorable mentions regarding Saarijarvi and his play during today's camp on Twitter earlier today. Malik did a write-up on him, too.
So the Wings signed Vili Saarijarvi at the development camp.
Should they have done so?
Well, first and foremost, it's to control his playing future, and second, despite the fact that he's 5'10," not 5'9," and about 175 pounds...
Yeah. Yeah they should have, and I'm glad they did. Even on first glance, he's fleet-of-foot, he's got great positioning, his PACE is at pro level, not USHL level, and he looked better than anybody not named Dylan Larkin out there today. Saarijarvi can pass on the fly and pass where he wants the puck to go, not just where the puck should be when he's making the pass, his shot is hard and he has no problems whatsoever dealing with bumps and grinding. He reminded me of Joe Hicketts last summer, except that Saarijarvi has far better offensive skills, and again, that PACE is something that only stands out if you're really damn good. I was that impressed with him.
Svech is going back to Cape Breton unless he makes the wings, can't play in the ahl yet.
This. Don't think Turgeon will be playing in GR., either. Prob back to the Winterhawks.
Also, I imagine they bring back Hoggan and Aubry. They like their vets, and Aubry was qualified, if I'm not mistaken. I don't really see Nastasiuk in their top-six either, but I suppose we'll have to see.
Really like the signing - just what the team needs. Solid top-four there.
Saw that Kenny was talking about moving someone. First inclination is to move Kindl, but if there aren't any takers, maybe they can ship off Quincey. He had a solid season, and there might be more teams willing to take a shot with him. Smith-Quincey just doesn't work as a pairing, and I'd like to see one of the RH shots down in GR used on this team. Smith-Marchenko looked solid in their short time together - think they'd be a decent bottom pair. I'd also like to see Jensen get a look there, too.
Kindl is what he is, but I'd rather leave 2.4 sitting on the bench than a prospect or 2.75 of Smith. Maybe they can flip KFQ for a pick or two.
As much as Weiss was a bust here, Babcock didn't do him any favors by burying him. Weiss would have stretches of solid play, then somehow wind up in the 4th line, RW position. I can get behind the idea that Weiss being put on the wing was the give him less responsibility, but when he put up some points, he was rewarded with a demotion.
Always got the vibe that Babcock didn't like the way Weiss competed (didn't compete) for the puck. Cared more about how the player played, and not the result of his play. Same with Kindl, IMO.
I'm actually kind of torn at this point. I'm also tired of seeing some of the line combinations and the way some players are being used under Babcock. At the same time, it's hard to deny that he's got a way to get more out of his players than you'd expect.
I'm leaning toward a fresh approach with this team, but I'm not going to be ticked if Babcock re-signs.
Thanks for the list man ... Didn't think guys from Grand Rapids like Miele and porter would count ... I see quite a few guys leaving and making place for other guys for us to sign anyways
As for hyman he doesn't cost us anything so if he can be had for free then just sign him and whatever happens happens
Gotta think porter Miele Aubry McCollum cole cleary etc... Will most likely not return thus giving us space to sign him and mcnulty/wheaton and a free agent or 2
If he doesn't pan out I can't see a team not taking a chance on a 23 yr old kid with potential
I think Miele, McCollum and Aubry will be brought back. I can't seem to find it now, but there was a quote from Blashill recently saying that he thinks Aubry has more to offer. At the very least, I don't think it would hurt to keep him as a fourth-line center. I also think they'll keep McCollum around because of how he played down the stretch - Jake Paterson will likely start in Toledo. I agree about letting the other guys go, though. I think Porter is expendable, Cleary is done and I'm worried about Cole's health (though, I would want to hang onto a healthy version of Erik Cole).
Kind of a dark horse for a contract, but I wonder what the brass thinks of Mark Zengerle. He was sixth in scoring among GR forwards. I'd prefer Hyman over Zengerle, for the record. Two years younger and more upside.
I have a feeling well keep miele. Career top six ahlers arent a bad thing to have around, especially when you have so many skilled guys coming through.
But I don't know the rules on two way contracts/contract limits and whether or not miele has given up on being an nhler, or if the wings ever have plans to bring him up.
So if we're under the contract limit, signing him couldn't hurt.
That's the question with Miele. I like him down in GR - gives the team some real scoring depth. They're going to be an inexperienced team up front next season. We're probably looking at a top line with Hoggan-AA-Mantha on it and Tvrdon-Nosek-Frk as a line. It would be nice to have a line with some experience on it. Perhaps Bertuzzi-Miele and another winger. Even with guys like Pulkkinen, Ferraro (and hopefully Callahan) moving up, they've got a solid team.
As for Hyman, I think it's worth a shot, but I also think it's important to temper our expectations. Anyone remember Willie Coetzee? He showed some chemistry with Ferraro the year that Landon scored 37 in Red Deer. Doesn't always work out...
I wouldn't mind if they offered him a contract. They'll be shedding a few and I'm not sure if any of the prospects with a '15 deadline will be signed (McNulty, Wheaton, Marshall or Hudon). Not sure what Hyman's endgame is (I'm guessing he may want to jump right into the NHL), but I'd be comfortable taking a chance on him. He'd have to start in GR, though.
The guy needs to retire. Not because it helps us with the cap, not because he isnt the same player, not because he floats around. He needs to retire because enjoying the next 60 years of his life is more important then a game.
I wish him the best, nobody deserves this. Just sucks.
This is pretty much as spot-on as it gets with this situation.