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#2576796 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 March 2015 - 07:59 PM

Janmark was 100% going to be stuck behind quite a few players. Athanasiou doing so well this season probably gave KH the confidence to move Janmark.

#2575688 Couture suspen.....no wait, just fined pocket change

Posted by Jesusberg on 27 February 2015 - 05:39 PM


If I was Couture, I wouldn't slew foot Smith if I had to deal with someone who looks like this:




Every one you love looks like a yeti.

#2574777 Quincey... Surgery coming?

Posted by Jesusberg on 25 February 2015 - 12:33 PM

It's amazing what a good season will do for a guy.

Quincey injured in early October: "Meh. Cool. Maybe now we can call someone up."
Quincey injured in late February: "****."


For the record, I'd be one of those people in October. KFQ has surpassed my expectations (which were pretty low, but still).

#2572859 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 February 2015 - 02:21 PM

Weird hunch, but I feel like Kindl's going to have a real solid game. I wouldn't be totally shocked to see him add a sweet goal an assist or two.

Edit: Grammar

#2572442 Teemu Pulkkinen called back up

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 February 2015 - 09:30 AM

OK, every one start chipping in for the PPV. Kip vs. krsmith, best two out of three posts.

I call special guest referee.

Edit: Oh yeah, we're talking about Pulkkinen. I'm going to borrow an idea from Malik (yes, he offers some solid commentary at times) and say I thought he played with really good pace. He was after the puck all game - some good stick work on his end. He needs to learn to get his shot off much quicker, though. Far less time in the NHL to wind up. In fact, I think he really needs to start getting away from the wind-up. I know it's his bread and butter, but until he figures out how to create more space for himself, he'll need to find another way to his shot off.

#2571684 Time for Teemu?

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 February 2015 - 11:32 AM

Jesusberg, I'm not sure why you directed all that at me. It's like you're trying to convince me that Jurco should be down in Grand Rapids, when you know just as well as anyone here that I was one of the few advocating that Jurco spend another half to full season down in Grand Rapids. There's not a question in my mind that his game would have benefited, and he would be further along in his development with more time in the AHL, and I'm starting to wonder if him being rushed into the NHL hasn't stunted his development a little. Like I've said before, I kind of feel that this has been a rare case of mismanagement of a very promising prospect by the Red Wings... He should have absolutely been down with the Griffs on a line with Pulkkinen all season, and if he were, they would have definitely been 1 / 2 in scoring, ripping up the American League. I also agree that Callahan would have been the better option to have up here, but that's more in place of Andersson, not Jurco.


As for Babcock pushing players like Tatar. I'm well aware of that, and that's what I feel he is doing with Jurco as well. Like I said, maybe there is a method to his madness, but sometimes it is very hard to see as a fan, when you watch a player struggle in a role that he shouldn't have been put in in the first place. Maybe Jurco does benefit from Babcock's "tough love" and it makes him stronger mentally and helps round out his game... who knows...


I also said he should be with scoring players, and that includes playing on a third line with Sheahan and Weiss or whoever. I just don't believe he should be on the 4th line in a grinding role with the likes of Glendening, Miller and Andersson.

Oh, I wasn't directing it at you. More like expanding on some of what you said, and maybe taking a different approach as to why he's on the 4th line. You and I were two of the few suggesting that Jurco starting the year in the AHL might be for the best.

Really, that's why I was comparing Callahan and Jurco. It's not a direct comparison regarding their skill level, but rather their assumed role on the Wings.This team has enough scoring forwards - guys who fit into the top 9. Callahan could slot into a role as a net front presence, but he also makes sense on a fourth line. It's not going to hurt Callahan, because he's got a lower ceiling than Jurco.

Edit: It's entirely possible that the team didn't have faith in Weiss' scoring ability (or healthy, for that matter), and I doubt they thought Helm was going to be used as a complimentary winger in the top 6. It was likely about depth, more than anything.

Plus, I'm pretty sure getting Jurco on this team was one of the "battles" that Babcock won against Holland, with Ouellet being sent down as the one he lost.

#2571481 Time for Teemu?

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 February 2015 - 12:18 PM

I tend to agree with most of the points made in this article: http://thehockeywrit...jurco-a-chance/


Jurco can produce more than he is right now, especially considering the minutes he's getting. You can't really expect much offensive out of him in his current role.

#2570447 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 13 February 2015 - 09:17 PM

Pulkkinen can seriously score from anywhere on the ice. It doesn't look like it should go in, but it finds a way.

#2570444 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 13 February 2015 - 09:03 PM

Absolutely. Athanasiou is unreal. For anyone that doubts this kids talent, I'd highly recommend catching a couple Griffs games.


I think Mantha will be a good pro, and still has the potential to be a stud, but there's no question that Athansiou has had the much smoother transition from junior to pro, and right now is the more dominant player.


I've been pretty impressed with both Nosek and surprisingly Tvrdon as well...

Watching the game and was just going to mention this. Hooking penalty wasn't all his fault - he was put in a bad position. He's hard on the puck and uses his frame well.

#2570329 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 February 2015 - 04:44 PM

Honestly, if you've ever put stuff out there for public consumption, you know what you're getting yourself into. You write something and people are going to find a way to rip it apart. Same goes for putting out any kind of hockey-related information. People are going to find mistakes, or at least try, then call you out on it. If you're serious about your work, you'll appreciate it in the end. It's more important to get the facts right than it is to be right.

You take your lumps, and get it right the next time. Chances are it's not the first, or last time that GM's going to get "fact checked". I did it the other day on something regarding Nick Jensen (I'm much nicer than Kip, though).

#2569855 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 February 2015 - 02:23 PM

Why is it that Weiss gets demoted to the 3rd line and it's all "WTF has Weiss done to deserve this" from kipwinger, but if Smith is demoted to the 3rd pairing, it's "well he just isn't a top 4 defenseman"...

I appreciate your Smith crusade, but this happens because Weiss puts up points despite his position in the line-up and his minutes played.

#2569848 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 February 2015 - 02:05 PM

If Detroit does manage to land Franson, I would definitely be hesitant to break up DeQuincey. First instinct would be to put DeKeyser with Franson, but then we'd have a Smith-Quincey pairing, and we all know how that worked out... Big Rig's been better lately (at least offensively), but I think that's where I'd slot in Franson. I agree that Smith-Franson would likely be a disaster. These would be two different looks I'd explore if the team adds Franson.



Obviously, these aren't the only options, but I'm trying to avoid pairings that haven't worked out in the past. I'm not as sold on that first group. As solid as Quincey has looked this year, I'm not sure I trust him to hold down that pair defensively. 

#2569738 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 February 2015 - 10:40 AM

That is steep for a potential rental, however, I believe that Franson could be the type of guy that would want to re-sign with us in the offseason (if we land him). If we finish in the top of the standings and go on a decent run, I think he would be foolish not to re-sign (assuming Holland offers him a fair contract). Our blue line would look significantly better with him back there, and I'd consider going as high as a 2nd and Ouellet in a trade, and then do everything we can to lock him up after this season.



And this is probably the reality of what he's going to command. If Toronto really is starting at a 1st + prospect, and teams are (likely) offering a 2nd rounder, they're likely to meet halfway. If that means a 1st or a 2nd + good prospect, then Detroit's going to have to toss out a 2nd + Ouellet/Pulkkinen/Athanasiou to compete with some of other offers out there.

I don't think all of those guys have the exact same value, but I think they're in the same ballpark. Not our highest end guys, and not players most fans would be comfortable giving up. I'm not sure I pull the trigger on that - meh. The trade deadline has my love and hate.

Edit: If moving Smith for Franson was possible, I would rather go that route. I'm not sure how much interest Toronto would have in Smith, though (if they're looking for picks and prospects). Guess we'll have to see.

#2569728 Babcock: "HE WINS, FULL STOP" - THN

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 February 2015 - 09:44 AM

Honestly, I think he's staying. Some of his quotes lately (in the NHL.com article) have reflected a sense of optimism regarding the current roster, and the future of some of the younger guys. More than anything, I think Babcock wants to win. If he believes he can win with this team (which seems more likely now than ever), he's not going anywhere.

I also thought his quote about the Stadium Series was a bit telling:


"I know I was really excited for myself, for my franchise, when we got the opportunity because to me it keeps your logo front and center," Babcock said. "Outdoor games are a great, great experience. We've been fortunate enough to be involved in (two) and enjoyed it very much. I think it's another way to break up the season and it's going to be in a beautiful city. It's going to be a lot of fun."

#2569724 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 February 2015 - 09:33 AM



Yes and no.  He doesn't ever fight, but he's not a pest.  You don't see him trying to get under people's skins the way a traditional pest (Maltby, Glendening) would.  But that's because that isn't his role on his team.  He's a first line power forward in GR and plays that game.  He's most comparable to Abdelkader on our current team.  He's a physically tough, strong, and in your face type of player.  He hustles.  He competes.  He's aggressive.  He's "heavy".  And at the NHL level he'll probably be an agitator.  But in GR he's a top line guy.  So he doesn't act too "pesty", despite his style of play. 

I figured something close to this. He's basically the net front presence down there from what I've seen, but I've only been checking out games more recently.

I'm wondering if he could tweak his game to suit our 4th line, as I know it would be a change from what he's doing down there. I know Detroit's got a lot of depth at forward right now, but I'd love to see a 4th line of Miller-Glendening-Callahan. At the very least, I still think he's an upgrade over Andersson.