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#2429068 who's on their way out of Detroit

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 July 2013 - 03:17 PM


Technically, I don't believe that's correct.  Tatar is out of waiver exemptions but officially Nyquist & Andersson are not.  Granted they have so few games left they can play in the NHL (2 & 12 respectively) before they lose exemption, that it really doesn't matter.  So they're on the big club unless they're sent down with the intention of keeping them in GR the entire season.


Pretty sure Andersson is not exempt (3 years since signing in April of 2010), but Gus still technically has 2 games of exemption left. So he would appear to be "safe".

#2428913 Question about Buying out Samuelsson

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 July 2013 - 11:38 PM

I'm so lost now on the whole Sammy buyout thing. Everyone on here posting different links and what not. It's like this is what the CBA rule is. No the CBA says this. No I'm right and your wrong.


Surely there has to be some sort of credible info on this.


Reading over every thing, it's my understand that two players would have to take the Red Wings to arbitration in order for the team to buy-out Samuelsson. There is no "regular buy-out" period - just a second buyout period that can only happen if the arbitration does.

So basically, Holland would have to low-ball two of the guys (let's say Andersson and Smith, I think Nyquist would be awarded the highest number) until they filed for arbitration. Seems like kind of an ugly situation.


Edit: Did I mention I really don`t like Mikael Samuelsson right now, or Holland`s decision making last summer...

#2427724 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2013 - 07:33 PM

I wonder if he feels like he broke up with his ex-girlfriend, and then she moved on really quick... and now he's just sitting there like, "I think I messed up."

#2427542 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2013 - 05:04 PM

"In this fall, this is very tough, in this fall I'm going to take my talents to Motown and join the Detroit Red Wings."

#2427291 is anyone happy right now?

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2013 - 02:51 PM

I'm not UNhappy... I'd like to see Samuelsson go away, and our RFA's locked up, though.

I think we have a more potent top 6. Should see some serious PP improvements.

#2427192 who's on their way out of Detroit

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2013 - 02:14 PM


No, the $2.3m total is with Alfredsson's bonus deferred. Based solely on number, they are above the cap.


per Capgeek


Well at least I can say I was right the first time  :lol:

#2427127 who's on their way out of Detroit

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but the $2.3 number comes with accepting Alfies whole $5.5 right? Only $3.5 should be counted up front so technically shouldn't our number be closer

to $4.3 right now? I'm totally with you on Samuelsson!!


Nope, you're correct. I didn't account for bonuses. So 4.3 it is ;)

#2425890 Grabovski Bought Out

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 July 2013 - 02:01 PM

Uh, I dunno where all this soft Euro crap came from, but I watched every post-season game the Leafs played this year and I noticed Grabo every single shift he played. I can't speak for his regular season, but in the playoffs he took a SERIOUS amount of abuse and kept getting back up. He was always buzzing around the net, going to the hard areas. I would take him over Weiss or Matt Cullen for sure. I'd cough up 4.0-4.5 per for Grabo. Big fan of what I watched, though it is a small sample size.

#2425401 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 03 July 2013 - 12:26 PM

3. The point is simply that its better to pay Samuelsson to sit in the press box if we aren't going to spend the $10+ Million on THIS free agent class. Much like last year, we started and finished the season with a ton of cap space, so why waste our last buyout on a guy with one year left on his contract when Johan Franzen still has 7 left on his. Foolish to not see how he plays for one more season.

4. Cleary should not get a 3 year contract, but unfortunately I can see why he might. He was our third best player in the playoffs. He finished second in points, and played like a warrior most games. Moving to the eastern conference, he remains one of our ONLY players that plays the style of game you need to to get from most of your roster to battle in the east. Still more polished then ABBY and his point totals reflect that...

5. Next summer, while i know players will still be resigned the free agent class is still going to be MUCH better than this years, but the biggest wildcard will be the compliance buyouts. Next year, the window closes on any chance of cap relief for the remainder of this CBA. Names like Kovalchuk, Parise, Richards, Hossa, are already being talked about.

3. I guess that's a point of disagreement. I don't see anyone beyond Sammy who should be bought out. Do I think Mule is going to be effective in the last years of his contract? Probably not. I think we'd be a worse team in 2014-15 without him, though. Can you say the same about Samuelsson next year? Samuelsson being on the team is a hindrance to the future of this hockey club.

4. I see where you're coming from with Cleary, and I've loved every thing the guy's brought during his time here... but I feel like that time is done. He's almost completely ineffective during the year. He's a playoff warrior, and that counts for a ton, but I'm not sure it's at the expense of healthier bodies. The physicality of the East is wildly overrated. Los Angeles, St. Louis, San Jose... those teams aren't physical? I would much rather see guys like Nyquist and Tatar given a fair shake.

5. I do see a much higher quality in the class of players next year. I just think a good portion of those guys will be tied up. The cap will bump up some, too... so maybe teams hang onto guys unless they're truly going to liabilities going forward. And I must sound like a prospect slappy here, but guys like Ferraro, Sheahan and Jurco are going to be knocking on the door soon. Depending on how they fare next year, Jarnkrok and Pulkkinen too, perhaps. Hadn't even heard of Parise's name in buyout discussions, but he would be an interesting one for sure. He's a game breaker worth spending the cash on.


#2425097 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 02 July 2013 - 08:58 PM

"The Red Wings had been expected to use their second compliance buyout on forward Mikael Samuelsson but his injured pectoral muscle makes him ineligible to be bought out. Contrary to speculation, forward Todd Bertuzzi will not be bought out in his place. The team may save the second buyout for the 2014 offseason."

How reliable is the site? I wonder if it's just speculation on their part? If his pectoral muscle is seriously going to be the reason to not use a buyout... wow.



#2424903 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 02 July 2013 - 05:50 PM

Looks like Colaiacovo is headed for a buyout... I really want to see Sammy, though.


#2423142 Cap Recapture Calculator

Posted by Jesusberg on 28 June 2013 - 03:33 PM

There's always a way




What does that mean, really?



#2419282 Which UFA would help the Wings the most?

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 June 2013 - 05:55 PM

I still believe that what this team needs is a goal scorer. Getting bigger and meaner is all fine and dandy, but their biggest issue was putting the puck in the net. Ryder, Horton or Iginla would be fine with me. I still feel like Clarkson might be a bit fluky. He was prone to dry spells during the year, and is really a net-front presence that complimented Kovalchuk, imo.

#2419268 2013 Offseason Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 June 2013 - 04:16 PM

First off, the cap hit recapture thing is complete garbage. It's the league's issue that they allowed those contracts, and now GM's following the rules are being penalized for finding loopholes int he league's shoddy system.

Secondly, you're bending numbers so out of proportion that I don't even know how to respond. Just because you average out numbers, and crunch them into different time periods doesn't mean you have the cap hits and salary right. Franzen would never make 7.1 million per year... ever. You can't just bend numbers from different players, because that's assuming every single player with similar production, and every GM in the league are the exact same. They're not. Each team is different too, by the way.

Franzen was signed to his current deal, because at the time, Holland was taking advantage of a loophole in the CBA. The bottom line is, at this very moment, Franzen's production is solid for the amount of cap hit and salary he is taking up. The cap recapture rule is horse s***. Had the league just dealt with this properly, Franzen's hit would be coming off the books, and it'd be a non-issue. It's not Franzen's fault, it's not Holland's fault... it's the NHL's mismanagement and backpedaling.

#2419264 2013 Offseason Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 June 2013 - 03:42 PM

I did. But you angled your description to fit only Franzen. Thats not realistic. I want our GM looking for GOOD value. Not FMV. Having the guy who should be a 6m cap hit but only takes 4m is a good value. At this point, Franzen isnt providing us what we need in the 3 spot. That's our most glaring weakness.


Unless you get a guy coming off an ELC, or one of those really good "bridge contracts", this doesn't exist in the NHL anymore. Nearly all the guys who play around a similar point-per game production are making like 5+ million.