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#2316374 A case for rebuilding

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

Oh, and did I also mention we already have an extremely deep pool of prospects? Smith, Nyquist, Jarnkrok, Mrazek, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Andersson, Ouellet, Pulkkinen, Tvrdon, Marchenko, Quine, Ferraro, Callahan, Frk, Athanasiou, Mckee, Paterson, Nestrasil, Dekeyster (most likely)....we need to tank to acquire prospects why?


This. We could have a rough go of things for the next 2-3 years or so, but in that time a lot of these kids will grow into their roles. You'll see guys like Nyquist and Smith playing bigger roles, and we'll have a much better idea of where Tatar, Jurco and Jarnkrok will be in terms of their roles. Guys like Sheahan, Andersson and Callahan may develop into solid bottom 6 guys. Not to mention with a thin blueline, Ouellet and Sproul could see NHL time in a few seasons, instead of waiting in the AHL for 4 seasons.

I don't think we need a rebuild. I think the team could use a few veteran stop gaps right now, while our prospects come into their own and we get to see what kind of players they turn into.

I've always heard, "The Red Wings don't rebuild, they reload"... well this may just be a longer reload than us fans are used to. We may have to be patient for the first time in years ;)


#2315973 The Next Move

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2012 - 05:42 PM

Didn't know where to put this... didn't think a new thread was necessary.

From Helene St. James: #RedWings defenseman Kyle Quincey files for salary arbitration.


#2315728 Wings hire Tom Renney as Assistant Coach (3-year contract)

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

"The Red Wings have hired former EDM/NYR/VAN bench boss Tom Renney as an associate coach. Renney, 57, has signed a 3-year deal with the club."

Per Detroit Red Wings Twitter account.


#2314529 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

I wanted Suter just as much as every one else here, but 13 years at 7.5 per is a serious overpayment. Short terms this stings a lot, but long term this could be a really good thing for the Red Wings. Next year is likely going to be rough, but who knows what the future holds.


#2313904 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by Jesusberg on 03 July 2012 - 06:04 PM

We're getting a little arrogant here, in my opinion. The guy's making a huge decision and taking a few days to do it. A lot of the fans here are coming off like spoiled brats.

"The how dare he take some time to decide, we're the Red Wings" attitude is unbecoming.


#2311437 D Justin Schultz signs with Oilers

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2012 - 03:04 PM

Honestly, of all the other teams who were in the mix for him, I'm cool with him signing in Edmonton. It might be too much for me to hear the Toronto or Vancouver fans brag about getting Schultz. Lots of guys have snubbed the Oilers over the years because of the weather/management/etc...


#2309921 Blashill to coach Griffins 12-13 season

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2012 - 02:58 AM

Also a lateral move one could argue... I think that Fraser may have just needed a change of scenery...


Agreed, and I also think GR needs a change of scenery. Could just be me, but I felt like Fraser gave too much time to the AHL vets on the team, and didn't focus enough on the progression of the young guys. I'm just speculating, but with Blashill taking over (proven to be good with young players) I feel like it's a step toward better player development.

The reason I think the coaching was an issue was because of the powerplay, which we agreed on, and because during the playoffs it seemed like Nashville was able to jam us up in the middle of the offensive zone and force all of our offense to come from the parimeter.


It seemed to me like this was an issue all year. Teams appear to be wise to Detroit's system, and the Wings seem to constantly go back to the point/try to screen the goalie. It's frustrating at times, because it feels like there's a lack of solid puck movement cross-crease. I hope they try some new things on the PP next season.


#2308000 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 June 2012 - 10:18 AM

Not an overpayment by any means. It's right on par with comparable contracts, plus there's the (very likely, IMO) chance that he will grow into, and play above the contract.

Very pleased with the signing.


#2302338 A general, how I would build a team

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 May 2012 - 06:44 PM

This represents either some brilliant parody or a shocking lack of understanding.


Or a lot of NHL 12.


#2302225 The truth of our decline.

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 May 2012 - 02:36 PM

Abdelkader is of very limited use at center. He's good as a winger.


Couldn't agree more. He's always been far more effective on the wing, imo.


#2302113 Which current NHL players do our top prospects compare to?

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 May 2012 - 06:40 PM

I would say smith is more like yandle then kronwall...


Smith is far more scrappy than Yandle. He throws plenty of hits, and has an edge to his game that is absent from Yandle's. The Kronwall comparison is pretty bang on.

Some.. no MOST of these comparisons are ridiculous. Comparing Nyquist to Datsyuk? That's laughable.


They're comparisons. I don't think that anyone is saying Nyquist is going to be the next Datsyuk. As mentioned, a lot of these comparisons were made by Red Wings management and staff, so I suppose they're ridiculous too. What do they know about hockey?


#2302103 The truth of our decline.

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 May 2012 - 05:18 PM

Don't forget Pulkinnen either


The issue with Pulkkinen is he'll likely be limited to a pure offensive force. He's got a great shot and solid offensive instincts, but he lacks speed and defensive awareness. I think he could wind up as a solid top 6 guy, but I'm not sure about the "great forward" tag that Rich mentioned. You could toss him on a line that covers up his lack of speed/defense... a good complimentary player, I think. Could throw guys like Tatar and Tvrdon into the conversation too, but I have more faith in Nyquist, Jarnkrok and Jurco.

Hard to say with guys that have yet to play a single professional hockey game. There is a huge step from juniors to the minors, and an even bigger step from the minors to the NHL.


Sure there is, which is why I'm skeptical about Jurco. Nyquist has shown he can excel at the AHL level, and looked right in place on a line with Datsyuk. Jarnkrok's playing in the SEL, which is right on par or higher with the AHL. At times during the currenty IIHF tournament, he's looked like the best player on Sweden. I agree that you can never fully predict how good a player will be, but Nyquist and Jarnkrok have looked right in place with NHL caliber players.


#2302081 The truth of our decline.

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 May 2012 - 03:10 PM

Honestly, I feel like that "pair" is going to stem out of Nyquist, Jarnkrok and/or Jurco. Some people doubt their upside, but I firmly believe that the first two are for sure, solid two-way players. I'd still like to see what happens with Jurco, but I think he's got a lot of upside.


#2300116 Suter most likely out of Nashville

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 May 2012 - 02:36 PM

First of all, Parise is NOT weak defensively, have you ever watched this guy play at all? Or are you simply pulling up his stats from this past year (when his centerman was injured for almost the entirety of the year)?


No offense Richdg, but I second this... I'm not sure if you've watched Parise play, but he's a very solid two-way player. He'd fit in Detroit's system very well (at least on paper) and will bring some serious offensive help, if they can manage to sign him. I'm in agreement with everyone saying that the team needs offense more at this juncture, but I can't help but want Suter too. Getting both guys would bring the whole "Christmas in July" thing to life for me.


#2297555 Johan Franzen wants to 'have more fun'

Posted by Jesusberg on 27 April 2012 - 11:18 AM

Honestly, his interviews have been irking me for awhile now. It's like the guy has no accountability whatsoever, and may be smoking a ton of grass. He's pretty easy going for a guy who's on a team that was eliminated in the first round.

More fun? How about more consistent effort? Winning is fun.