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#2228412 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 November 2011 - 03:13 PM

Two things:

1) I don't think that Cleary is a 40-goal scorer, nor that he's Selke-caliber. I do believe that he's good for at least 20 goals per year and that he's a very solid all-around player.

2) Datsyuk's two goals against L.A. had no bearing whatsoever on Cleary being on or off the ice, and nor did his assists last night. You might as well say that Cleary being on the ice with Stuart was why the latter scored two goals last night; it would make just as little sense.


I'm not about to say that Brunnstrom/Nyquist is better than Cleary, but when a guy is struggling like Danny is right now, maybe bump him down a few lines to give him some different looks. Cleary can't finish right now, so maybe giving someone else a shot with better finishing skills RIGHT NOW would be an idea with some merit. Even on his current line with Z he looks a little lost to me, though he's definitely trying (had like 7 shots the other night). Could just be that a change of pace could help him return to form.

I'm not with anyone here saying Cleary is garbage. He's having a bad year is all. He's showed he's got finishing skills, but he's definitely snake bitten this year. Don't think the pre-season injury has helped him either. Maybe putting him on the 3rd line for a bit with Helm would give him some new looks and push him.


#2224173 Coaching part of the problem?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 November 2011 - 05:40 PM

I don't understand that comment. Is DRWs "slowing down", or are teams around the league getting better? I'm leaning more towards the latter.


Fair point. Other teams are catching up in the cap era, but the Red Wings also aren't getting younger. To be honest, I'm worried about some of the players who will take the team over in the future.

Also, management has been drafting bigger, grittier, more physical players w/top 6 potential the last couple years. Last draft I thought DRWs did a great job drafting some high-potential defensemen.


Grittier forwards with top 6 potential, such as? The issue here is, are these guys going to be good enough to make up for the loss of truly skilled players. I assume your main focus here is Sheahan. I'm not sold on him. This is the first year he's put up some point production in the NCAA. Aside from him, Aubry and Callahan pop into my head. That's great, but I'm not sure they fit into that mold. Tvrdon from the 2011 class comes to mind, but I'd like to see if he can remain healthy too.

I agree with you 100% on the defensemen, though. I'm very excited about Sproul. Ouellet is struggling a bit, but Nedomlel is a pleasant surprise. Of course, there's always Smith too, but I really think he needs to calm down on the bad penalties. I'm not just talking about the pre-season hit, but his total penalty minutes and lack of discipline.

I mean logically, what could management have done differently to make this team better? Trade our high-level prospects, draft picks, and future for a 1 - 2 year run for the cup, then rebuild like Edmonton is doing now and Penguins did before that? I'd rather Holland do what he's doing. Keep building while staying on top.


I don't think we have to unload everything, but one thing I think this team CAN do is make a play for a #1 defender. I'm not 100% sold on Smith. I like our forward depth (Nyquist, Tatar, Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen), but I'm worried about our blue line. Guys like Sproul and Ouellet are going to pop up several years down the line. Holland doesn't give up picks and prospects (on reputation) but I wouldn't mind seeing him break the bank once for a bona fide defenseman.

I apologize for using you as a focal point for the argument I was making.


No need to apologize, I just don't think I was reaching the levels of cynicism seen elsewhere in this thread.

Let's wait a couple more games and see if splitting Pav and Hank really works, and then you can say he should have tried it sooner. Let's wait until Bert is actually getting top 6 time before critisizing Babs for giving it to him.

Cleary scored 26 goals last year, he's at least shooting a lot this year. Who else on the team is playing so well that they deserve that role over him?


Bert was getting some top 6 time before the flu hit. I can't cite exactly how many games, but I'm pretty sure since Dats and Pavs have been split up. He was on a line with Zetterberg and Mule and looked terrible (in my opinion). I'm just tired of his errant passing. I think he belongs on that 3rd line, and as lazy as Happy can be, I'd rather see him in the top 6 than Bert.

As far as Cleary goes, I've always been a huge fan of Cleary. I just don't think it suits him to be the focal point of a line. If the Z-Dats-Cleary line would have clicked early on, everything would have been great. Now is that on Cleary? No, Dats and Z should be playing better, and allowed Cleary to play his role (puck retrieval, screening, tips).

Right now, Cleary is the focal shooter on that line and it just doesn't suit him. Datsyuk has Homer and Cleary flanking him when I think he should have some kind of pure shooter with him. I think he at least deserves Flip, but then you're breaking up that productive second line. This is where maybe Hudler comes in. I don't think he was that bad (and I've picked on him for everthing). Right now it seems to me like Datsyuk is having issues hanging onto the puck. Throw Huds in there to see if that line can possess the puck a little more, because handling the puck doesn't suit Homer or Cleary very well. To clarify, it's not necessarily about who deserves it most to me, but what combinations work and how to form some chemistry for the first line.


#2222946 This team screams for a trade

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 November 2011 - 11:48 AM

He looks azn.



So what you're saying is...

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#2215688 Mike Brown Cranks Tom Kostopoulos

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

Not really a Leafs fan, but I'm a big fan of Brown's game overall. That's for Brad Stuart's jaw, Tommy boy...


#2214483 CBJ's Rough Start

Posted by Jesusberg on 13 October 2011 - 10:00 AM

I took over a fantasy hockey team with Wisniewski and Mason on it, that's what happened. I jinxed the Jackets.


#2203435 The best deal that NEVER happened

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 August 2011 - 11:16 AM

can you imagine a mixture of yashin and red wings fans? oh dear lord, he would have taken the term "is lazy and sucks" through the stratosphere.


Sure, but having Damian Rhodes between the pipes would have softened that blow :ph34r:


#2198532 The easiest team to root for...

Posted by Jesusberg on 14 July 2011 - 02:10 PM

Detroit's easy to root for? Apparently, they haven't been to LGW during dry spells. Amirite? :hehe:


#2197911 2012-13 Realignment Leak?

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 July 2011 - 03:49 PM

Obviously, interesting to see that the Red Wings aren't included in the Central. Wonder if this is just speculation on his part, or if plans are really laid out already.

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#2197852 Wings re-sign MacDonald to 2 year contract

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

Ends up where? As the backup? Are you serious?


I thought the same, but he's from Grand Rapids. So "here" refers to GR.

Didn't Larsson say he didn't want to play for the Wings or something? Like there was some sort of falling out or maybe he had an attitude problem. I was pretty high on him too until I read that or something to that effect on this board.


I'm pretty sure he said he didn't want to play in the AHL anymore, and would only play if he got a job out of camp with the Wings.

EDIT: In an interview with Aftonbladet he said something along the lines of: "I'm never going back to the AHL again. But I swept the carpet with Jimmy Howard during my first season over there and Chris Osgood is washed up so I will take the chance if they are willing to let me show what I can do in the NHL."

So that's where the "attitude" issues come from.


#2197669 This is why Commodore was the best signing ever...

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 July 2011 - 08:29 AM

The guy's most likely trying to get attention and page hits. Everyone been pro-Commodore 64, and now he gets attention by saying he shouldn't do it. Not even worth paying attention to.


#2197519 This is why Commodore was the best signing ever...

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

Equipment Manager Paul Boyer says that if @commie22 wants to wear 64, it's all his.

-per Red Wings twitter.

Woo hoo!


#2192321 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2011 - 10:25 AM

Per Jon Rimer's Twitter:

Detroit Red Wings News: No deal with Wings and Patrick Eaves, & looks like he'll be testing the open market tomorrow.

Hope it's not true and he signs a late deal... for the right cap hit of course. I like the guy.


#2182573 How Much Is Hudler Worth?

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 June 2011 - 03:00 PM

Oh... I'd say about tree fiddy.

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#2179693 Ken Holland: Open to trade to replace Rafalski

Posted by Jesusberg on 25 May 2011 - 04:48 PM

Fair enough, and I would love to see it happen too. Usually those picks are harder to get than established players though...


The thing about a message board is everyone is going to want something different, and people are going to think each other's suggestions are insane. At the end of the day I'd WANT to see Holland add some kind of young, blue chip defender to the system. While that's almost certainly not going to occur, I'm also not going to settle for signing an old, worn-out defender who might help us for the next 1-2 years. At least, not until it actually happens. I'll have a small semblance of hope for an impact move that I'd prefer until it doesn't happen, and then when it doesn't I'll make the best out of what Holland actually snatches up.

I have a ton of faith in Holland, but I also feel that this is a critical time for the Red Wings' future. With Rafalski and Lidstrom (potentially) out and Kronwall and Stuart being 30+ years old, I'd think a young defender would be of the utmost concern. Guys like Kindl and Smith could develop (some might think Almqvist and Marshall too), but I'm not entirely sold on them. Either way, I hope that whatever he does can help the team fill the offensive void left by Raffi's departure.


#2179629 Ken Holland: Open to trade to replace Rafalski

Posted by Jesusberg on 25 May 2011 - 02:56 PM

Started by LGW members. Holland has categorically denied the Bogo rumors numerous times.


Wasn't started here. It originated from the Windsor Star's Bob Duff. Got it from his Twitter. Obviously, it didn't pan out, but it had a bit more truth to it than just being an LGW rumor.