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#2567661 Larkin or Mantha?

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 February 2015 - 11:34 AM

I'll take Larkin over Mantha. Mantha's the flashy guy, but I really think Larkin is built for this team. He's got "everydayer" written all over him.

I remember being so pissed off when Detroit drafted Sheahan - I wanted Etem. Shows what I know.

#2567573 1/31 GDT : Islanders 1 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by Jesusberg on 31 January 2015 - 04:41 PM

Know what's great about the Detroit Red Wings this season? I'm never surprised when they score goals.

Well, Smith and Ericsson, yes... but you get the point.

#2567520 1/31 GDT : Islanders 1 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by Jesusberg on 31 January 2015 - 04:13 PM

Did Weiss get knocked down to the 4th line for missing that pass on the PP?

Tread lightly, sweet prince.

#2567438 1/31 GDT : Islanders 1 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by Jesusberg on 31 January 2015 - 03:35 PM

Solid play there by Marchenko. Did not expect Smith to be able to shoot it like that. Damn.

#2567294 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 31 January 2015 - 09:43 AM

Honestly, I think some of our prospects are being grossly overvalued. Right now this defense corps consists of two legitimate Top 4 guys, with perhaps Quincey on the edge of that.

Here's the thing... Cup contention or not, right now this team's got nothing in the way of defenders to help with a transition from the vets to the prospects. When you look up front, you've got guys like Nyquist and Tatar who are going to hold things down before Mantha and Larkin (hopefully) transition into solid players. Kindl and Smith should be the guys helping with that transition on the back end, but they're just not good enough. DeKeyser by himself isn't enough.

I definitely think Detroit has something in guys like Ouellet and Sproul, but who's holding down the fort as they progress? You can only pile so much on Kronwall. If you can pull the trigger on Smith, Pulkkinen and a 1st for a legitimate offensive threat between the ages of 25-30, you do it. I wouldn't go as far as to say that those guys are replaceable, but they are most definitely expendable. As much as I enjoy Pulkkinen's possible upside, he's more of the same on this team. We've got the smaller skilled goal scorers in Tatar and Nyquist, with Mantha on his way soon. Without coming down on the guy too much, I do think that Ouellet is more than capable of doing the job Smith is doing now, and has better upside.

It isn't about adding a piece to put this team over the edge. It's about adding a piece to make real improvements to this team so that they can remain successful. I'd rather not find out the answer to, "Can Ouellet, Sproul, Marchenko, etc. progress fast enough to offset Kronwall slowing down?" Waiving Lashoff was a proactive move by Holland, and I hope he's willing to make another one with some of the assets in the system now.

#2567226 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 January 2015 - 08:33 PM

What's to know? He's been with the same organization his whole career. If he doesn't want to leave, you don't ask him to.

Shane Doan isn't going to hurt the team's rebuild by staying, nor is he going to bring back substantial enough assets in a trade to greatly aid in the rebuild.

#2567205 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 January 2015 - 06:45 PM

Just another take on the Buffalo brass scouting GR games - George Malik brought up that Rochester has a back-to-back vs. Grand Rapids next week, so perhaps it's more about preparing for those games. Not to say they weren't there to scout GR talent, but that does add a practical reason for them being there.

As far as the OEL stuff goes, I'm not sure what would get Maloney to move him. I'm thinking it'd have to be a massive overpayment. I can't even wrap my head around moving a 23-year-old stud player as part of a rebuild - at least, not without getting a king's ransom back for him. I wonder if it's a way to get talks going about some of the other guys Maloney wants to ship out (Yandle and Michalek). "Yeah, that doesn't get you OEL... but let's discuss Keith Yandle."

#2567111 Franzen on IR

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 January 2015 - 09:13 AM

...how soon we forget.  We lost Nestrasil.  I know, he wasn't the best, but we still lost him due to overcrowding.  Jurco had exemptions, but he was obviously better, so Holland kept him.  Nesty wasn't a huge loss, but we still lost him.


Next year BOTH Jurco and Pulkkinen are out of exemptions.  We lose Cleary to UFA.  That's it.  Now Jurco and Pulkkinen are vying for one spot.  Holland WILL re-sign Nyquist, Jurco and Andersson (all RFA's) so that will leave just one spot.  It was minimal damage losing Nestrasil, but do you really want to lose one of Jurco or Pulk? Especially at the cost of keeping Franzen and his headcase here?  The time has come.  Either buy him out or give him the Pronger treatment for the next 5 years.  If we lose one of those two so we can have Franzen float around out there and peter in a few points and shots here and there, then something is wrong with Holland, seriously. Stop the bleeding somehow. Just don't lose Jurco or Pulk or ANYBODY else to roster overcrowding by useless players.


And, no it's not "fan speculation" on Franzen's head problems.  Its been said time after time, that he gets into funks that cause him to lose focus and have no desire to do anything.  The only speculation is what may be causing this...nothing personal Johan, just business, we need that roster spot.

What kind of math are you doing?

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Weiss, Franzen, Nyquist, Tatar, Helm, Abdelkader, Sheahan, Jurco, Miller & Glendening make 13 guys... Cleary's spot opens up the spot for Pulkkinen. How did Tatar begin last season? As a healthy scratch, working his way into the line-up. There's no reason to suggest that the same won't be done here.

I'd even venture to say that the Red Wings could let Andersson go, letting Callahan or Ferraro take his spot on the roster. They've let RFA go before.

#2566192 LA puts Mike Richards on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 27 January 2015 - 05:20 PM

Helm already gets Tatar in enough trouble. You get Mike Richards in Detroit and Tomas is in AA within three weeks.

#2566025 LA puts Mike Richards on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 January 2015 - 01:04 PM

I'm not sure about their cap situation, but if I was Toronto I'd probably claim him. 

I'm pretty sure Toronto is up against it, cap wise. Unless they're unloading Clarkson, I can't see them going after Richards.

I think a team like Edmonton makes sense, or perhaps even Arizona with Vermette likely to leave. Depends on their internal cap. I think they're trying to shed money, at the moment.

#2565875 GDT : NHL Skills Competition/60th All-Star Game

Posted by Jesusberg on 25 January 2015 - 07:30 AM

Oh and the Toronto Media can shut up now, Kessel did the fastes t skater  challenge under 14 seconds and beat Tyler Seguin that wouldn't be possible if that guy isn't in shape..


#2565703 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 January 2015 - 12:51 PM


I wouldn't say he's been inconsistent.  His production hasn't great to begin the season, but once Ouellet came to the big club, Sproul became the primary puck mover in GR and his production increased.  Can't speak to his defense, but I can say he's really picked in up offensively after having almost no points in the first quarter of the season. 

Just took a look and he had 10 points through 13 games in December, which is obviously impressive. He seems to have slowed down since (can't expect him to keep that up), which is what I was getting at. He had two points heading into December, so all things considered, it's good to see that he picked it up.

#2565700 Franzen on IR

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 January 2015 - 12:43 PM


Equating his acknowledgement of performance anxiety with "emotional issues" not only grossly simplifies whatever it is that holds Franzen back from dominating the NHL, but it also demonstrates a REMARKABLY narrow understanding of mental health issues.  Just stop. 

What about equating his acknowledgment of his love for having his backside caned by an English man in a top hat with emotional issues?

#2565686 Franzen on IR

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 January 2015 - 12:00 PM


But you have evidence to suspect him of "emotional issues"?


This whole thread has turned hokey.  Why don't we all stick to Franzen and hockey and not try to assassinate/dissect his character.  Regardless of how we feel about him on the ice, there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest he's not a decent, committed, hard working, emotionally stable person.


3 outta 4 ain't bad.




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#2565635 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by Jesusberg on 22 January 2015 - 11:21 PM

Jesusberg, no you're right, they're not the same situation. In one case, we gave up a pretty solid prospect at a position that we were really deep at, and he had no chance at cracking the lineup any time soon, and in the other, we'd be giving up a solid young defenseman, who is starting to round out his game and come into his own. Why would you give up on that for potentially just a few months of service from another player? Especially after seeing what happened in the Legwand situation... Also, Holland can do whatever he wants to try to get Green to stay in Detroit past this season, but chances are Green would test the open market, and if there is a better offer elsewhere, which there likely would be, nothing's stopping him from signing anywhere else... What makes you think Babcock is high on Green? I would think Green is the polar opposite of a player Babcock would be high on. As a matter of fact, the one reason I'm not sure if Green would be a great trade for us, aside from the cost, is that I think he would end up in Babcock's doghouse within weeks...

I was conceding that it sucked giving up Jarnkrok for a rental. While we differ on how much value Smith has, we can agree that moving an asset for a rental player isn't worth it in this team's current situation. Holland's recently admitted he thinks he paid too much: http://www.theredwin...rade-deadline/#


To the second point, this makes me think Babcock is high on Green: http://www.mlive.com...nd_half_of.html



"They're a good team," Babcock said. "When (Mike) Green's your fifth D-man you must have a really good back end. I think Green's a star."


I'd say that's some nice praise. Things can change, obviously. Perhaps Green would come here, play poorly and dive headfirst into the dog house. At the very least, I think it shows Babcock has a desire to add an offensive guy to this roster. If it's not Green, it's someone else if a similar mindset/playing style.