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#2562458 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 11 January 2015 - 10:19 AM

I personally hate staged fights, I feel like guys are hurting themselves for nothing. I agree with everything krsmith17 said, if an idiot like Lucic does something stupid to one of out players, I would love to have a guy that can step in, but only if that guy can also play hockey and is not just a goon.

Agree with most of what you've said, and I've agreed with this sentiment in the past, but I think Detroit isn't in a situation where they can't even afford to give up a spot to that type of player. We're pretty much devoid of offensive blueliners, so it takes 8 forwards to run this team's PP. Unless you're doubling up on someone, that leaves 4 guys for the PK.

Taking a look at the top 10 leaders in fighting majors, it's tough to find someone who could actually fit a need for this team. I see value in Dorsett, Prust, Roussel and Wilson. 

I'm surprised that Dorsett has chipped in what he has on offense, especially considering his TOI. I don't really like him as a player, but objectively, I'll admit he has some value. Roussel and Prust play some time on the PK, and chip in offensively. Both get more time than your average 4th liner, though. I don't see either guy being in this team's top 9, so I wonder how they'd fare here with less minutes. I'd give both of them a spot over Andersson without hesitation, but that has more to do with their overall game than their willingness to drop the gloves.

Wilson... I don't understand how he's being used, to be honest. He actually has potential, and is a whole other type of player. I'm sure when Washington clears up something on the right side, his role on the team is going to change.

The other 6 guys (Boll, Tootoo, Crombeen, Martin, McLeod & Borowiecki) I don't see as having much value, for one reason or another. All in all, it'd be nice to have an element to keep other players honest, but I think it's tough to find a guy who can do that and contribute on the 4th line.

#2562281 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 January 2015 - 04:10 PM

Yeah. That was me in the GDT.

I was sure Weiss would either play the rest of the game on the 4th line or not play at all. Turns out, he kept his spot in the 3rd, but barely played. I think Babcock sees the value of having him on the PP, but other than that, it's obvious that Weiss either isn't working hard enough or doing the things Babcock wants him to. Or both. Actually, they might be one and the same.

I'm OK with this. Except that it really annoys the hell out of me that guys like Weiss and Legwand get this treatment when Franzen gets a free pass each and every night.

Agreed. Both guys are scoring at a .67 PPG clip, yet one is averaging over 16 minutes a night, while the other is getting around 11:30. Babcock keeps saying he's in the business of winning every night, but I get the impression that he's in the business of winning his way, and only his way.

That's all fine and good, but the other guy you're playing about five more minutes a night isn't exactly busting his behind, either.

#2562242 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 January 2015 - 01:01 PM

I hope Pulkkinen puts a shot through the net, then looks right at Ovechkin. Maintain eye contact. Assert your dominance, Pulks.

4-2 for the good guys. Z, Abdelkader, Pulkkinen and Tatar.

#2562219 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 January 2015 - 09:41 AM

OK, which one of you asked Ansar this question. You little superstar, you.  :lol: 

Q: What exactly is it in (Kyle) Quincey's game that gets him top-four minutes? I play hockey at a very high level so I know what's going on and I 100 percent honestly don't see why Quincey continues to get top-four minutes, let alone even play every night. - Kelly

#2562093 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 04:57 PM

I just realized... No one has been protecting Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, and Jurco this entire time! That's why they haven't been able to perform at all...

False. Pavel has ties to the Russian mafia. That's better than two McGrattans, at least.

#2562078 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 04:38 PM

Yes I do who is protecting Johnny hockey, Monahan and Bartschi now? Is big Ern a goal scoring machine? No nor a defensive stud but he is a damn good team mate loved by the fans and an absolute gym freak with great work ethic. Hope some team claims him and then others have to respond, fighting is part of hockey and needs to come back

Brandon Bollig?

#2562063 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 03:53 PM

Guise, we need to have a eugoogly for the enforcer... RIP energy.

Seriously though, I wouldn't be THAT shocked if Boston claimed him.

#2562055 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 03:03 PM



I was basically trying to identify options that people hadn't talked about already, and who were in the realm of possibility.  I agree that neither Barrie or Wisniewski are likely to be moved, and only included them because their teams are absolutely horrible.  That usually makes teams willing to listen a little more than they might otherwise prefer to, but agree that it would take a lot to pry them out. 


As far as Franson, I didn't put him on the list because A) We're all aware that he's availabe, and B) We're in the same division, and C) Toronto might just make the playoffs (and therefore keep him).  But yes, I'd have interest in Franson (as would everyone else in the league). 



I generally agree with your assessments across the board.  Except that I'd say this:  Wisniewski's "comments"  have been overblown on LGW since he made them.  His exact quote was something like "in my experience...um...uh...they (Detroit) don't usually pay market value...um...so I was looking elsewhere", or something to that effect.  Afterward those moderately critical (and totally true) comments morphed thereafter into "I don't want to play for that cheapskate Ken Holland".  I have no doubt that Wisniewski, or Kesler, or Rafalski, or Gordie Howe would accept a trade here  if his contract was guaranteed already and our team was better than the one they were on.  Such is the case with Wisniewski. 

Fair point. I just wonder if Holland would look past it, more than anything. Would he bring in a guy who said he doesn't pay players what they're worth? For some reason, I can see the phrase, "We're not sure he's a good fit for our team" coming from Holland.

You're right, though. Wiz already has his money, so that part of it wouldn't get in the way.

#2562046 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 02:52 PM


Then Detroit could claim him, and pay Lucic back for spearing DeKeyser, then wave him.


Then Montreal could..............



How about Boston claims him, and he can beat the s*** out of Lucic in practice every other day?

#2562041 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 02:46 PM

No. You stop it. You stop it right now.

Although, it might give Weiss a break from his current job - telling Glendening how good he is for 12 minutes a game.

#2562024 Time for Teemu?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 January 2015 - 02:12 PM

Bacock on Pulkkinen's call-up last season:


“He just didn’t earn a spot,” Babcock said of Pulkkinen. “I’m just in the winning business. Can you help us or not.

“All players think they need more ice time to play better,” Babcock continued. “Coach thinks play better and you get more ice time.”


Sometimes I love Mike Babcock. More accurately, I love how Mike Babcock gets the team to win. Sometimes I see a quote like this, and Weiss on the 4th line. Then I go, "Uh huh... sure, Mike. I believe you."

I think it's more like, "Play the EXACT way I want, and I play you. If you're realgud and heavy on the puck... you make a mistake, maybe I turn the other way. If I don't like parts of your game, you'll make one mistake and ride the pine. Realgud bench warmer."


#2561757 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 January 2015 - 10:38 AM

Also, I don't get why Pulkkinen is the guy everyone is throwing in trade scenarios. I get that we have a ton of other guys coming but he should be one of the last guys we consider trading at this point in my opinion.

He should be, but how likely are one of those other guys to be moved? It's not Holland's style to move people unless he absolutely has to, and when some of those other guys are Mule, Weiss and Helm, there are some obstacles in the way. With next season in mind, my must/should keep around guys up front are:


One of those question marks is Mule, one is Helm/Weiss and one is Cleary/Andersson. For me, they're assets worth looking into moving because they're not playing their role as other could, or because they're a bit redundant, IMO.

Believe me, I think Mule should be the expendable winger, because the wingers on the team now are younger, faster, etc. and I'd rather his spot be filled than theirs. With Weiss/Helm, I think it makes sense to keep one, not both. We've got Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Sheahan down the middle, so we really only need one who can shift to center from wing when the need arises. When Datsyuk leaves, we'll definitely need someone to help with the transition. That leaves Andersson and Cleary... I think it's clear what Holland should do with those two.

I guess my point is, it's easy to see which other guys should be traded, but how likely is it? Factor in their contracts (Mule, Weiss) and what they mean to this team beyond statistics (Helm). How likely is it that Holland wants to stick with "proven commodities", as opposed to making a spot for Pulkkinen, Mantha, etc.

As I said before this, I truly believe Pulkkinen's spot next year is as 13th/14th forward, based on what Holland decides to do with Andersson. Technically, Holland doesn't have to make any real decisions until next off-season, when Helm, Abdelkader and Miller are UFA. By then, I'm sure we'll all be going bonkers for Mantha and AA. The reality is, I'd like Holland to be progressive, instead of letting the team hit training camp, and reacting to who looks best... but he certainly doesn't have to be.

#2561350 Time for Teemu?

Posted by Jesusberg on 07 January 2015 - 03:53 PM

Absolutely! Imagine if we would have had Gus on our roster last year all the way from training camp. It's f@cking ludicrous that Cleary and Andersson are taking up roster spots over Teemu right now. I could see it if he was struggling down there or this was his first year in the AHL but he's leading his fricking league in goals! He also fits a niche need that we have right now for a right handed shot (HARD, ACCURATE right handed shot no less). I realize Kenny wants the prospects to be over-ripe before we bring them up but there's also a point where you have to bring them up if they're better players than what you have on your roster. It killed me last year to see some of the scrubs we were trying to recycle rather than giving Gus and Tatar a chance.


They're not, though. They're riding the pine. You can waive either guy, and Teemu simply takes their spot on the bench. In order for him to get any real ice time, someone else has to go. If he's up, who out in this team's top 9 sits? Putting him on the 4th line wouldn't do much good, IMO.

I want to see Pulkkinen on this team as much as the next guy, but right now it wouldn't do him or the team much good. Maybe if Jurco goes on IR, he gets a look, but I still doubt Babcock will bump Helm down to the 4th line.

#2561136 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 January 2015 - 10:53 PM

Of course, he would score after these comments...

#2561013 Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by Leafs

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 January 2015 - 05:25 PM








OK, but let's be serious for a second. Bozak, Winnik, Komarov and Polak would garner at least half a chub from Babs. #heavyonthepuck