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#2524227 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 June 2014 - 12:16 PM

Miller-Helm are our 4th line, and they're hot garbage? Right.

Helm basically speaks for himself, but Miller was 5th in the league in PK time per game, 15th in blocked shots among forwards. He was also 2nd on this team (behind Abdelkader) in hits. Miller is a perfect 4th liner, sans your desire for him to drop the gloves. I get it, you like to see guys drop the gloves and police the ice, but a player that does only that will NEVER be on this team. Ever.

Any enforcer-type player who plays for this team is going to have to be successful at more than one thing. I look at guys like Hendricks, Roussel, Maroon, Crombeen, etc... they put up some points, or work on the PK as well. Thronton is a thug who can't skate, score or play on the PK. No place on this team for a guy as limited as that.

#2524206 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 June 2014 - 11:18 AM

Just when I was applauding management for stocking the cupboards with some young FA's, this... jesus, Kenny and co.

Stop. Let Dan go. It's done.

#2524078 Wings sign Tomas Nosek to 2 year entry level deal

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 June 2014 - 07:40 PM

I really don't see the issue with adding some younger guys who will (Nosek, possibly Sekac), for better or worse, reveal if they're going to work out sooner rather than later. The Wings are letting several UFA's go, and I'm guessing that along Emmerton going to the KHL, Parkes and Coetzee probably won't be qualified. Nothing wrong with stocking the shelves with some players who aren't 17-18.

#2523602 Spezza Requests Trade

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 June 2014 - 11:25 AM

I disagree he has decent size IIRC. And is a short term answer at 2c until we see if Weiss will be and a long term answer at 1c once dat retires. He is a perfect guy to have for the next 4-8 years depending how long he maintains his level of play.

Yup just looked 6 3 220. AND for those who don't know....IS A RIGHTY

He might be 6'3, and 220... but he's also S-A-W-F-T, saaaawft.

As far as his actual destination, I think a Spezza for Kesler swap makes a ton of sense, but I'm sure they'd want to tweak it beyond a straight up deal.

#2523079 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 June 2014 - 10:30 PM

The guy's getting under 4 million per year, and he's in the top 60 forwards in the league for points per game.

You can argue that he's not what you, Ken Holland and Mike Babcock wanted him to be. You can argue that Hossa is a better player and they should have kept him. You can argue that he gets lazy and hasn't played to his potential... but what's the point? Seriously.

The truth of the matter is that he's worth the money he's being paid, and there's basically no chance the team gets rid of him. The argument is mind boggling to me. He's an exceedingly frustrating player to watch, but he's here to stay. He's a good complimentary player, and he's being paid a fair amount of money for that role.

#2522936 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 June 2014 - 06:23 PM

I'm going to disagree with you guys and say that he's the kind of short term solution the Wings need before guys like Sproul and Ouellet are #3/4 dmen... he signs for 2 years at 5 a year under a familiar coach and mentors the kids (some North American leadership)


Let's not forget that Boyle is a pretty rugged player, at 38 he played more games than most of the Wings roster last year..

A number of people who post here are pretty pro-Boyle (or just pro veteran, right handed defender). When it comes to the Wings' defensive situation for next season, there are pretty much three trains of thought.

#1: Niskanen! Niskanen!
#2: Sign Boyle for 1-2 seasons and let one of the kids mature on the third pairing.
#3: Let the kids play (Two of Ouellet, Marchenko and/or Sproul up with the Wings)

#2522908 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 June 2014 - 03:41 PM

I still want him here, but trading a 5th (possibly 4th) for an impending, 38-year-old UFA... uh huh. Sounds like a Garth Snow move.

#2522508 McGuire to Pens as GM?

Posted by Jesusberg on 02 June 2014 - 11:47 AM

Please happen. Please, please, please. 

#2521627 Dan Boyle not coming back to the Sharks

Posted by Jesusberg on 24 May 2014 - 11:09 AM


I forgot to mention Ericsson. Ericsson doesn't produce much; he's a shutdown defenseman.


Kronwall is our only reliable point producer.


I truly feel as if Smith could jump to the 30-35 range next year, given some actual PP time. One of his biggest issues at the beginning of the year and prior was getting the puck out of the zone - boneheaded passes up the middle. He seemed to get away from that near the end, and especially when paired with Kronwall. More poise in the defensive zone and some time on the PP and I think this team has got another point producer.


Justin Bourne wrote a piece a little while back about the importance of having a cornerstone defenseman. He listed each team's #1 defenseman and divided the teams according to how they (the teams) ultimately fared this season. The point he was making is that the remaining playoff teams generally boast better #1s than the teams that have been eliminated, and the teams that have been eliminated generally boast better #1s than the teams that didn't make the playoffs. But what really struck me is that virtually none of the league's #1s are shutdown types. These days (maybe like always), a Truly Elite Defenseman is, basically, a two-way monster. He can defend, but maybe more importantly, he moves the puck exceptionally well and puts up lots-o-points. He drives possession, offense. He runs the power play...


I'm not saying Dan Boyle is one of the true elites. But he's a lot closer than a Luke Schenn. With Kronwall being excellent (though, not elite) in his own right, we don't necessarily need a true elite. We just need a guy who has that kind of ability. A guy like...Dan Boyle. After two years of Boyle, Smith would, hopefully, be a big producer, and Sproul (who I think has the potential to be a #1 in this league) would be ready to play big minutes. And even if Boyle gets hurt or seriously falters, well, that's an opportunity for one of the kids. So, to me, it's a win-win.


I think it's been pretty obvious in recent posts that I'm pro-Boyle, and I agree completely above the elite defenders. Doughty and Keith are there, McDonagh has turned into that guy. I don't think PK is that two-way monster, but Markov makes up for it. Regardless, those are the guys who dictate possession.

I also agree with the sentiment behind having Boyle mentor the other offensive defenders. I think Smith, Sproul, etc could learn from watching his poise, ability to hold the puck at the blueline and his puck movement. I'm not sure about the "Sproul being a #1 in this league" comment. I am a huge, huge Sproul fan, but I think his defensive game is definitely lacking. He's really at a crossroads right now where he needs to fill out and shore up his defensive game, or he could run the risk of developing a Cody Franson type game. That's the downside with him - an offensively driven big man who is prone to defensive lapses - a PP specialist. Right now I see Sproul as having a 2nd pairing guy kind of upside, but that could change, obviously. I for one really hope he rounds out into a two-way guy.

#2520865 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 May 2014 - 03:21 PM


Whoa, I'm not being clear.  I DON'T(edit) think we should tank on purpose.  And I don't think we would if we let Sproul play rather than sign Boyle.  I just think we should live or die with the young kids in the lineup.  If we make the playoffs great.  If not, they have a year's worth of experience for the next year. 


The only way I'd be in favor of signing Boyle is if we were a really good team and that was the one thing we needed to put us over the top.  It isn't.  So I don't see what it would accomplish. 


Fair enough. Perhaps I misread it, but I just say it as, "contend or s*** the bed with the prospects in the line-up". Again, I'm not saying it's Boyle or Sproul, I'm saying it's Boyle AND Sproul. I'm looking at vet-prospect/young player combinations. Kronwall-Smith, DeKeyser-Boyle, Ericsson-Sproul. One of Kindl or Lashoff can be moved or waived. Neither factors in on the future of this team's blueline.

I think there's a big difference between regular season experience, and playoff experience. This year kind of showed that - those kids helped this team into the post-season and then looked like deer in the headlights when they got there. I think the younger guys need that post-season experience, and I think this team has the potential to be better than last season's team. I don't think we have to live or die with the kids in the line-up, because I think that's how you deflate some of them. I think that's where they can look to a guy who has experience to calm them down, and follow his example. 

I guess this is where we differ in our opinion on what Boyle would bring. I think he helps this team get into the post-season/boosts the PP, I think he helps guys like Smith, Sproul and Marchenko learn the ropes on the PP a bit better, and I think he helps DeKeyser develop into a more stable defender who, in two season when the kids are really ready, will be able to manage his OWN pairing with a younger player. I don't think the guy is the missing piece, but I do think he could have a positive impact on this team's future blueliners, and ease their transition into becoming responsible, reliable defenders in their own right.

#2520844 Dan Boyle not coming back to the Sharks

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 May 2014 - 01:50 PM


Kronwall  Smith

DeKeyser  Boyle

Ericsson  Sproul





I'm sure I sound like a broken record, but this is my ideal defense corps for next season. Great balance there - saves the headache of seeing a forward play the right point on the PP (though, I think given the depth at forward, we'll still see one on the 2nd unit, left side) and gives the guys roles. Kronwall, Boyle and Sproul would be PP for certain, maybe some looks for Smith. PK would be Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser and Smith.

#2519848 Gaborik?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 May 2014 - 12:40 PM

I love his speed and the way he shoots the puck, but I don't see the Kings letting him go. As others have said, he seems to be pretty comfortable on Kopitar's wing. With the cap going up and guys like Mitchell and Greene coming off the books (or signing for a fair amount less there), LA will have every opportunity to keep Gabs. They could even move Williams to shore up some cap space and let Toffoli jump into their top 6 if it came down to it. 

#2519744 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 May 2014 - 05:51 PM

I appreciate Mantha's skill level, but I think the idea of him playing on the team right now is rushing it a bit. Unlike last season (where they expected veterans to "bridge the gap"), this year is going to be used to gauge where the young wingers (Nyquist, Tatar & Jurco) are at, and if they fit into the future plans of the team. As high on Mantha as Babcock is, he's also been really high on Jurco from some of the stuff I've read lately. My best guess at what the forwards look like going into the season:

Z-Dats-Abs (Hate it or love it, Babcock uses it)
Mule-Weiss-Nyquist (Assuming Weiss is healthy)
Andersson, Callahan/Ferraro

This is assuming Weiss is healthy, and Alfie doesn't return. If both guys are in Detroit, I could see Jurco starting the year in Grand Rapids (as there would be no room in the top 9). Otherwise, I see that as his spot to lose. I would honestly be amazed if Mantha cracked that top 9 - not because he isn't talented, but because I think it's a solid group of guys with some balance and he's going to benefit playing some AHL hockey.

#2519252 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 May 2014 - 11:08 AM

As much as the guy frustrates me, I don't see how you just replace his points - especially with the lack of offense being generated from the D. He's not a 1st line guy, but he's a solid top 6 forward. It just pains people to watch him float and cool off for the long stretches that he does. Buying out Tootoo is the right move, and it allows him to find a job elsewhere.

#2518191 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Jesusberg on 29 April 2014 - 01:13 PM

I think it's easy to look at this season, perhaps the last two or so, and feel as if Kenny dropped the ball. Personally, I hate all the vet signing he's made. I think the Quincey trade was a big mistake. I feel as if he should listen to Babcock about certain aspects of this team (there seems to be some definite friction). I think he should have trusted the kids a bit more. If Jarnkrok stays in North America, I'm sour about that trade as well. It's easy to be upset with Kenny right now.

On the flip side, it's hard to argue against the drafting this team has done since 2008 - Kenny hanging onto all those picks has paid off. The team couldn't lure Parise-Suter over, but I don't think the blame can solely lie on Kenny shoulder's for that. It's a combination of destination, coaching and desired teammates. Maybe the team overestimate the allure of playing here, and they're realizing now that they're going to have to overpay to land a big name. That's reality now.

I think this team is in a good position to make some real changes. They've got cap space, some reliable older players and a cupboard full of prospects knocking on the door. Now if in the next 2-3 seasons he pushes this youth movement, makes a trade and can sign a big free agent or two, he redeems himself in my eyes. We have several assets - prospects can be flipped and some picks can be moved for legitimate players. Kenny has cards to play with now, and I'd like to see him actually play. Dropping the ball here would definitely sway me to the, "Good-Bye Kenny" side, but I'd also like to see what he does in this (favorable) situation.