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#2555136 Theoretical "Expansion Draft" implications - Who to protect?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 December 2014 - 06:14 PM

Again, this is all "theoretically" based on an (unlikely to actually happen) June 2015 expansion draft based on the rules for the last expansion drafts.


It's also unlikely that those rules would be the formula for a "Cap Era" expansion draft. Two things didn't exist during the last expansions: The salary cap and the notion of "higher league parity".


I wouldn't be surprised if the league adds new provisions for a salary cap expansion.


The first thing to consider is that the expansion team would need to reach the minimum salary floor. The league probably knows that the expansion team won't have a snowballs chance in hell to compete in the now thin UFA market and would struggle to reach the cap floor without having provisions in the expansion draft. They would also want the new team to atleast be able to compete on level with basement level teams. Something they can't do with one draft worth of prospects and the pack of career AHL players or mediocre veterans that moved in the '98-2000 expansion drafts.


My guess is that the league will also put in rules stating that teams have to expose a certain number of players that have a cap hit over a certain level and/or a certain number of years remaining on their contract. Something like:


Each team must leave unprotected atleast:

-Four players (1G, 1D, 2F)

-One of which is under contract for atleast the next season with a cap hit at or over $3.5m

-One of which is under contract for alteast the next season with a cap hit from $2m-$3.5m

-Two of which are under contract for atleast the next season with a cap hit from $700k($150k over league minimum)-$2m


Then the league would mandate that the expansion team take a certain number of players that meet each criteria, like: Atleast 3 of the $3.5M+ players exposed and 5 from the $2m-$3.5m category, and atleast 7 from the $700k+ category.


Would be a good opportunity for some teams to offload bad contracts (ala Lecavalier), but also guarantees the expansion team atleast a small amount of NHL talent for their inaugural season, and a jump start at meeting the salary floor for their first season (most likely in the same fashion Edmonton did this past season, by overpaying mediocre UFA's like Nikitin and Pouliot!).

I agree that they may attach some conditions for the players being exposed, but I don't think there would be any shortage of those "bad contracts" available (Semin, Mike Richards, Brian Campbell and Matt Carle come to mind). While I think teams should have a minimum amount of salary exposed, if the criteria is too specific, it's going to handcuff a good number of teams. For example, outside of Michal Neuvirth, Buffalo doesn't have another player in the 2.0-3.5 range.

I think the onus should really be on the expansion teams. They can overpay UFA's, make deals, etc., but I agree there should be a minimum amount of cap dollars made available - maybe not just so specific on the number of players and their ranges. It's another obstacle (the cap), but I think teams would be relieved to unload some of their contracts for sure.

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#2555132 Theoretical "Expansion Draft" implications - Who to protect?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 December 2014 - 05:43 PM

Mrazek is out of waiver options after this season. That wouldn't work.

"Petr Mrazek's waiver exemption of 5 year(s) and 73 games remains in place through to the end of the 2015-16 season. However, that exemption will end immediately when he appears in 73 career NHL regular season and playoff game(s). He has played in 14, meaning he is 59 away from his exemption ending."


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#2555130 What Are You Playing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 December 2014 - 05:20 PM

If I can get NHL 15 for cheap between now and Christmas I'll get it..otherwise next year. Getting Far Cry 4, COD AW and wwe2k15 for Christmas...love playing The new Halo and Destiny

I can't speak for anyone else, but knowing what I know, I wouldn't even buy it for cheap. I've found the whole experience mind-numbingly frustrating. Sliders won't update, can't find a good set of sliders that I can work with and my "Today's Game" default screen is always a month behind. Though, if I'm being honest, I'd most likely buy it for like $20, just to add it to the collection. I'm just mad at myself for shilling out the $70.

#2555122 Theoretical "Expansion Draft" implications - Who to protect?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 December 2014 - 04:31 PM

I would think CBS and MIN would be included. In the '98 expansion, the Ducks, Sharks, Lightning, Panthers etc. took part and they were all expansions in the early 90's.

The ten game minimum criteria is confusing to me as well. For this "theoretical" situation in which the draft takes place this coming June, Gustavsson and McCollum could still get claimed.

If we're protecting two, does McCollum even count? He's played one game in the NHL.

For some reason, I was thinking July and not June, hence me thinking Detroit could sign someone to protect their goaltenders right away. While I get this theoretical draft would occur this June, I imagine it's going to be next June or the one after (if this happens). I think it would be tough to find someone fitting the criteria to sign in Detroit's situation - it's all but certain that we're going to roll with Mrazek as the back-up next season. Someone like Fasth or McElhinney could meet the requirements (depending on how much they play this season), but it's hard to imagine they'd be up for playing in the AHL. I'm assuming that if they don't have a 3rd goaltender that meets the 10/25 game criteria, they'd have to expose one of Howie or Mrazek? Bleh if so.

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#2554783 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

It's funny that this thread is still a thing.

It's used as a not-so-thinly veiled attempt to bash certain players on this team.


The reality is, there isn't much to complain about with this team right now - tons of positives. The forward depth is fantastic, the defense has gelled well and goaltending has been solid. Special teams are clicking better than I can recall in recent memory.


I think the one place the team could use a shot to the arm is on that 2nd PP. The PP has been clicking well, no doubt about it. I just think it would be nice to get a more stable presence on the blueline of that second unit. Flopping back and forth between DD and Kindl wears a bit thin. First choice is a righty with some experience, and without term on his deal - Green, Franson, Zidlicky. They're all rentals, so I wouldn't want to ship much out for them. That's not realistic for those first two names, though.

Honestly, I would "settle" for the team finding a new home for Kindl, just so they can bring XO up here. Even though I think he's shown moment of solid offensive instinct, it's just clear that Jakub doesn't fit on the team, and I think that 2nd PP could use a more consistent presence at the point.

#2554131 Mrazek Called Up

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 December 2014 - 05:36 PM

I figured it didn't merit a new topic, but has anyone seen Mrazek's new mask? I think it's unreal. My first reaction: "he's bat**** crazy... that's awesome."


#2554098 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 December 2014 - 02:17 PM

Apparently, he missed practice because of personal reasons. He's slated to play on Saturday.


#2553778 Jeff Petry; trade between us and oilers

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 December 2014 - 07:24 PM

The idea of Petry himself is fine, but I'm not sure he fits this team unless someone else goes with Kindl. The whole point of moving Kindl at this point is to make room for XO. Outside of Kindl, I don't really have a legitimate gripe about how anyone on the defense has played. If it ain't broke...

#2553758 12/4 GDT - Stars 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 December 2014 - 05:19 PM

Thanks for all the responses to my question. You all have been very helpful. =)

You could look up split stats, but you'd be looking at certain players. So you'd have to check individually.

For example, Zetterberg: http://www.hockey-re...ttehe01/splits/

Best that 30 seconds of Googling could do. Hope it's helpful.

#2552692 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 29 November 2014 - 08:30 PM

By the end of next season I would like to see:


Kronwall - Smith

Dekeyser - Sproul

Ouellet - Jensen



Trade: Ericsson - Getting older and still has some value (might as well get something for him) he also doesn't do much offensively for us.

Buyout: Kindl (nobody wants him)

UFA: Quincey - I don't think he provides enough offensively to be worth keeping over our prospects. Also I think he will want to cash in big on his performance this year. 

Honestly, I can't imagine any scenario where this happens. Kindl's going to be moved, that much is certain. I seriously doubt the team moves Ericsson, and I imagine they're going to let Quincey finish up his contact, unless they're in a poor situation at next year's trade deadline. I can see the team starting the season after with something similar to this, but I don't see them breaking up the D-corps that much during next season. I think one of those four prospects is going to be left out of that group, with Ericsson maintaining his spot.

#2552686 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 29 November 2014 - 05:38 PM

I don't understand how it is so difficult to get rid of Kindl. There are plenty of teams out there hurting on the blueline due to injuries right now. There has to be someone willing to take him for a low pick at this point to keep XO in the lineup. 

Seriously, it makes you wonder. Tampa just unloaded 35 year-old, makin' 3.8 million per year, Eric freakin' Brewer for a 3rd round pick. I understand there's more term on Kindl's deal, and TB retained some salary, but still... come on. Can't get a 5th or 6th for Kindl?

#2552217 11/26 GDT : Philadelphia Flyers 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 November 2014 - 09:16 PM

Number 90 with another point. He may not be German, but I shall call him Uberweiss.

#2550942 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by Jesusberg on 22 November 2014 - 10:39 AM

Or maybe he just hasn't play hockey in a long time.

This. If we're going to discredit the goal he scored 19 seconds in, we're going to have to discredit the sloppy play, too. Neither is a true indicator of how he's going to perform when he's up to full speed (should that ever happen). I'd like to see how he looks through 5-10 games, not just one.

#2550935 Lucic tasting some knuckles...

Posted by Jesusberg on 22 November 2014 - 10:09 AM

I can picture his next interview now:

"Milan no get knocked out. Milan tired, so he fall asleep on Prout's hand. You say Milan lose fight!? Lucic smash!"

#2550775 Why is Kindl not playing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 November 2014 - 01:11 PM


:lol: Ouch



I feel like that Kindl line is something that someone at the Edmonton Journal thought up, and figured was hilarious. You put something in quotation marks, you can deflect any blame if it doesn't go over well. Don't get me wrong, he's spot on...