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#2530014 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 July 2014 - 06:26 PM

Does his weight affect his game? Does he get passed easily? Is he abnormally slow? I guess I hear the fat accusations but no one seems to discuss his actual playing ability. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

I wouldn't mind the guy - he's a good offensive defenseman/forward hybrid. Although, I think there are other serviceable options with less baggage.

#2530000 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Jesusberg on 04 July 2014 - 04:58 PM

I don't think they part with Jurco.  He's the big bodied power forward every team wants.  Sheahan was just signed, and Holland doesn't do sign and trades.  It's gotta be Tatar, Kindl, Andersson, maybe Helm, who while he's an impact player might be slightly redundant now that we have Sheahan.

Agree, and I think Helm would be an attractive piece in Winnipeg's eyes. Though, I'd always hoped he'd be part of a Bogosian deal, not a Byfuglien one.


Found this in a Google search: http://www.talk-spor...ustin_Byfuglien

An entire forum devoted to hating Byfuglien. I don't get it. He has a fitness problem. Or did, I don't know if he still does. But I see things like "rapper wannabe" and "rap sheet" which makes me wonder if its some weird race-based judgement. I mean, his rap sheet is what, a drunken boating charge? He doesn't seem that bad to me. Especially if he is turning his fitness level around.

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I remember the fitness issues, but I agree with the race-based judgement stuff. That really seems to have no bearing on his play on the ice.

Too fat

If he really is a rap artist, I do believe it would be "2Phat".

#2529507 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Jesusberg on 02 July 2014 - 02:09 PM

I'm surprised Commodore could find a strong enough Wi-Fi signal to post those Tweets.

#2529166 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 


Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 


There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 

Honestly, I don't disagree with you on several of these points. However, in my opinion, there's very little to like about signing Kyle Quincey. Many people (including myself) were advocating a stop-gap, someone to let the kids slip into the line-up without them being overwhelmed. At the very least, those stop-gaps brought something extra to the table - Boyle and Gilbert could help the PP, Stralman and Morris the PK. What does Quincey bring? Dead serious, I don't have a real answer to that question, no matter how hard I try.

To call the guy a solid #3-4 defender just doesn't ring true to me. He doesn't put up points, he doesn't hit or block many shots. He takes several, poorly timed penalties. To his credit, the guy's swept a few pucks out from right in front of the goal line, but all in all, I'd say Kyle Quincey is just... there. He exists and has the physical endurance to play "top 4 minutes" on this team, and he was given a raise?

I think the real issue behind the signing is that it comes off as a panic move - it feels like it was made to just barely cling on, to "play it safe". I think playing it safe would have been grabbing Boyle, Gilbert, Morris, etc. I know those guys didn't want to be here, wanted term, etc. but grabbing Kyle Quincey strikes me as playing it scared. It reminds me of grabbing Legwand because Holland needed this team to squeeze into the post-season.

I see the positives going forward - I see the youth of this team and the defensive core that is shaping up. What I also see is that Kyle Quincey is a bane on this team's blueline - he's not going to pass anything onto the kids, and he won't be adding anything positive to this team's defense corps for the next two seasons. He doesn't ruin this team's future - he just wades in the water doing nothing around it.

#2528946 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 06:41 PM

No offense, but did you watch Quincey at all this past season? The guy is a void. He makes his partner worse. And the GM just paid him 4.25 million.

I was fine with standing pat - I wanted Boyle, but we missed out. When every one was saying, "Niskanen or bust", I was promoting several less popular options. Heck, even though they didn't get Niskanen, Boyle, Stralman, etc. Holland essentially told Gilbert to go sign with Montreal. The next best alternative is an exhaustive list of options, and somewhere near the bottom is "re-sign Quincey". It's an awful move.

He really jacked this one up.

#2528910 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 06:31 PM

The man got a raise. A RAISE.

#2528269 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 02:01 PM

If I'm Jakub Kindl, I'm teaching myself how to shoot right-handed over the summer.

#2527455 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 10:42 PM

No, we're not in on Stastny... Did we really need another thread for this? It couldn't have been discussed in any of the other dozen UFA threads?...

No, because then it would get lost in the shuffle with the, "It's a shame we have Franzen, Vanek would be sweeeet" posts.

#2527197 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 12:29 PM

I seriously feel like Detroit, Minny and Tampa are all going hard after Niskanen, Boyle and Gilbert. The "winner" is going to get Niskanen, and the other two teams will get Boyle and Gilbert. Kind of glad Ehrhoff got thrown into the mix - could make things interesting.

#2527196 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 12:27 PM

Not as big as some of the other names here, but it appears Detroit is going to bring back McCollum. I don't mind it, but I hope he doesn't get in the way of Mrazek playing 50-60 games.


#2525988 Teams to be compensated for losing personnel to other teams

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 09:10 PM

I really like this, but it obviously won't be retroactive will it?...

No, because that would be unfair...  *cough* Cap Hit Recapture *cough*

#2525840 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:48 AM


That's the new LGWs mentality. That and blindly bashing management for everything that happens in Michigan except for maybe the price of a 6-pack of Founder's.  


FTR, I think it's in Detroit's best long-term interest to have Gilbert at $3,500,000/yr for 2 years (which I think is what Holland will do) vs Niskanen at $6,000,000/yr for 7 (which is what I think he will get on the open market)


I personally would take Stralman over Gilbert (if Boyle doesn't work out), but I agree 100% with that two-year term. Every one calling for this team to get younger needs to realize that Ouellet, Sproul, Backman and Marchenko, at most, should start out playing sheltered minutes. For them to get to that "top 4" level, they're going to need to learn and that means signing a stop-gap veteran right now.

Holland has made some mistakes with vet signings in the recent past (Samuelsson, Cleary, arguably Bertuzzi), but that doesn't mean this would be one. He underestimated the NHL readiness of kids who played 4 (Tatar) and 2+ (Nyquist) seasons at the AHL level. I don't think that would be the case with these defenders, yet.

#2525832 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:30 AM

It's a good signing. Mrazek gets the chance to be a monster (pun intended) in GR. I've said it in other posts, and I'll say it again - if there's a flaw that I see in Petr's game, it's his consistency. Giving him a full year in the AHL, playing 60 something games is going to test him mentality (He wants to be up now, can he make the best of his situation?), and physically (Is he a workhorse? Can he play a ton of games, night in and night out?)

He's a great goaltending prospect, but there are still question marks surrounding him. Don't just look at stats - look at the overall picture and how goalies mature. Signing Gustavsson (in theory) is going to give a more clear picture of what kind of goalie Petr Mrazek is, playing as a starting goaltender at a pro hockey level. (not a guy who comes in and steals the starting job, and not a guy who splits the season with McCollum)

#2525827 Adam Almquist signed with KHL club

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:18 AM

Honestly, I don't think it has as much to do with Almqvist "not being good enough" as him being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They're all gaga over finding a RH shot right now, so Sproul and Marchenko already look markedly better than he does. Obviously his size works against him, and if he had better foot speed, it could be worked around. If the reports about him being unwilling to hit the gym are true, then he kind of kicked himself there.

He's a skilled guy - great hockey IQ and works the blueline on the PP very well. Just didn't work out, as there are more appealing prospects in the system just behind him.

#2525472 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 24 June 2014 - 12:24 PM

I swear tof****** god that sometimes this forum is like a hockey version of "The View". Super over-the-top theatrical, petulant, and diva's everywhere......


Did anyone actually read this article from Kulfan????!!!!!!!




That would involve reading beyond, "Alfredsson shows inter..." *RAGE*

"God, I hate Kenny! He wants to destroy this team from the inside out!"