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#2269367 HF Boards: Red Wings Top 20, Spring Edition

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Hey guys,

Here's the latest edition of the Top 20. I'm not going to call the Fall edition a "disaster", but let's just say I think this list is much improved over that one. Comments, criticisms and discussions are always welcome. I have a feeling the points of disagreement on this list may be Tvrdon, Jensen and Marshall.

Also, Emmerton and Mursak remain on the list as prospects... so while many of you might think they're no longer prospects, they're still included per HF guidelines.


#2268851 What do you guys have to say about Filpulla now?

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

I was valedictorian of my eighth grade class.

#2265097 Lidstrom to win Norris trophy?

Posted by Jesusberg on 29 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

I love Nick, but too many other players having great seasons. I think it'll come down to Karlsson, Weber and Chara.

#2264696 2/28 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Blue Jackets 2

Posted by Jesusberg on 28 February 2012 - 07:16 PM

I think Kindl looked pretty solid on that PP. Mind you, he wasn't putting the puck through hard enough at times, but he controlled the puck very well.

#2259852 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

People are going to grumble about this because of the situation, I think. If we were adding a 26-year-old RFA with 30-35 point potential and he DIDN'T have a history with the team, people would likely be more receptive to the idea.

#2246337 Brad Stuart to the West Coast?

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 January 2012 - 12:31 PM

I don't think the Wings are in a position to move a top 4 defender, whether he's leaving or not. The teams looking for a pending UFA, veteran defender are teams who are going to be in the post-season. We'd essentially be giving the competition a boost. The game is so tight now that even the smallest bounce could make or break a playoff series. What if that "bounce" is Stuart scooping the puck off the goal line.

Even if we do lose Stuart for "nothing" in the off-season, we gained a solid defender for 5 years for a 2nd and a 4th. Smith is going to step onto the team next season, and who knows who we might pluck off free agency. The safest bet here is that the team is going to keep Stuart for a run at the cup. At most, I think that maybe they can sell his rights for a low-end draft pick before July 1st.

#2242015 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by Jesusberg on 06 January 2012 - 05:00 PM

I'm trying to avoid this thread as reading it makes me feel like i'm going to throw...

a ninja star? :ph34r:

#2229309 Buyers Remorse

Posted by Jesusberg on 24 November 2011 - 11:12 AM

Yeah, when a guy has a three point night, I think to myself, "Aww man, why the hell is the team paying him 2.875 instead of that 5.5 for Wisniewski... oh wait."

They were talking about Sid's return, they should have been talkin' about the White Knight. With that full armor of his, he can block even more pucks with his face.

#2228789 Should Commodore be waived?

Posted by Jesusberg on 22 November 2011 - 05:03 PM

It doesn't have much to do with Commodore, really. I mean even if he is waived, that means one of Ericsson or Kindl is rotating in and out with Smith. Unless Smith is getting regular ice time, there's no point in keeping him up here to sit as a healthy scratch for periods of time when he can play top minutes in the AHL.

I can't see him being given a job over Ericsson or Kindl, (not that his play hasn't shown he deserves it) because it's just not generally how the Wings do things. Could surprise me though, as I'm already a bit surprised they're keeping him up now. The question is, is he as good/better than Ericsson or Kindl in the eyes of the Red Wings brass?

#2228471 Eaves = Doghouse?

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 November 2011 - 06:46 PM

The rest of the team is mad because he always beats them in Ping Pong.

This. He's addicted to the ping pong, and they're trying to wean him off it by only dressing him ever other game or so. Straight back into hockey and he might have withdrawals.

#2228412 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 November 2011 - 03:13 PM

Two things:

1) I don't think that Cleary is a 40-goal scorer, nor that he's Selke-caliber. I do believe that he's good for at least 20 goals per year and that he's a very solid all-around player.

2) Datsyuk's two goals against L.A. had no bearing whatsoever on Cleary being on or off the ice, and nor did his assists last night. You might as well say that Cleary being on the ice with Stuart was why the latter scored two goals last night; it would make just as little sense.

I'm not about to say that Brunnstrom/Nyquist is better than Cleary, but when a guy is struggling like Danny is right now, maybe bump him down a few lines to give him some different looks. Cleary can't finish right now, so maybe giving someone else a shot with better finishing skills RIGHT NOW would be an idea with some merit. Even on his current line with Z he looks a little lost to me, though he's definitely trying (had like 7 shots the other night). Could just be that a change of pace could help him return to form.

I'm not with anyone here saying Cleary is garbage. He's having a bad year is all. He's showed he's got finishing skills, but he's definitely snake bitten this year. Don't think the pre-season injury has helped him either. Maybe putting him on the 3rd line for a bit with Helm would give him some new looks and push him.

#2224173 Coaching part of the problem?

Posted by Jesusberg on 09 November 2011 - 05:40 PM

I don't understand that comment. Is DRWs "slowing down", or are teams around the league getting better? I'm leaning more towards the latter.

Fair point. Other teams are catching up in the cap era, but the Red Wings also aren't getting younger. To be honest, I'm worried about some of the players who will take the team over in the future.

Also, management has been drafting bigger, grittier, more physical players w/top 6 potential the last couple years. Last draft I thought DRWs did a great job drafting some high-potential defensemen.

Grittier forwards with top 6 potential, such as? The issue here is, are these guys going to be good enough to make up for the loss of truly skilled players. I assume your main focus here is Sheahan. I'm not sold on him. This is the first year he's put up some point production in the NCAA. Aside from him, Aubry and Callahan pop into my head. That's great, but I'm not sure they fit into that mold. Tvrdon from the 2011 class comes to mind, but I'd like to see if he can remain healthy too.

I agree with you 100% on the defensemen, though. I'm very excited about Sproul. Ouellet is struggling a bit, but Nedomlel is a pleasant surprise. Of course, there's always Smith too, but I really think he needs to calm down on the bad penalties. I'm not just talking about the pre-season hit, but his total penalty minutes and lack of discipline.

I mean logically, what could management have done differently to make this team better? Trade our high-level prospects, draft picks, and future for a 1 - 2 year run for the cup, then rebuild like Edmonton is doing now and Penguins did before that? I'd rather Holland do what he's doing. Keep building while staying on top.

I don't think we have to unload everything, but one thing I think this team CAN do is make a play for a #1 defender. I'm not 100% sold on Smith. I like our forward depth (Nyquist, Tatar, Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen), but I'm worried about our blue line. Guys like Sproul and Ouellet are going to pop up several years down the line. Holland doesn't give up picks and prospects (on reputation) but I wouldn't mind seeing him break the bank once for a bona fide defenseman.

I apologize for using you as a focal point for the argument I was making.

No need to apologize, I just don't think I was reaching the levels of cynicism seen elsewhere in this thread.

Let's wait a couple more games and see if splitting Pav and Hank really works, and then you can say he should have tried it sooner. Let's wait until Bert is actually getting top 6 time before critisizing Babs for giving it to him.

Cleary scored 26 goals last year, he's at least shooting a lot this year. Who else on the team is playing so well that they deserve that role over him?

Bert was getting some top 6 time before the flu hit. I can't cite exactly how many games, but I'm pretty sure since Dats and Pavs have been split up. He was on a line with Zetterberg and Mule and looked terrible (in my opinion). I'm just tired of his errant passing. I think he belongs on that 3rd line, and as lazy as Happy can be, I'd rather see him in the top 6 than Bert.

As far as Cleary goes, I've always been a huge fan of Cleary. I just don't think it suits him to be the focal point of a line. If the Z-Dats-Cleary line would have clicked early on, everything would have been great. Now is that on Cleary? No, Dats and Z should be playing better, and allowed Cleary to play his role (puck retrieval, screening, tips).

Right now, Cleary is the focal shooter on that line and it just doesn't suit him. Datsyuk has Homer and Cleary flanking him when I think he should have some kind of pure shooter with him. I think he at least deserves Flip, but then you're breaking up that productive second line. This is where maybe Hudler comes in. I don't think he was that bad (and I've picked on him for everthing). Right now it seems to me like Datsyuk is having issues hanging onto the puck. Throw Huds in there to see if that line can possess the puck a little more, because handling the puck doesn't suit Homer or Cleary very well. To clarify, it's not necessarily about who deserves it most to me, but what combinations work and how to form some chemistry for the first line.

#2222946 This team screams for a trade

Posted by Jesusberg on 05 November 2011 - 11:48 AM

He looks azn.

So what you're saying is...

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#2215688 Mike Brown Cranks Tom Kostopoulos

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

Not really a Leafs fan, but I'm a big fan of Brown's game overall. That's for Brad Stuart's jaw, Tommy boy...

#2214483 CBJ's Rough Start

Posted by Jesusberg on 13 October 2011 - 10:00 AM

I took over a fantasy hockey team with Wisniewski and Mason on it, that's what happened. I jinxed the Jackets.