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#2550326 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 07:01 PM



Let me ask you a question, Brett. Let's just say you have these millions... and you want someone to teach you how to manage the money. So, you hire someone to teach you, someone you think you can trust. References, work experience — it all checks out fine. But then how do you really know for certain... that your millions are safe with this stranger? I mean, can you ever really trust another human being, Brett?


No.  The answer is, you cannot.

Maybe it's because of The Office video I posted earlier, but I can't help but read this in Dwight Schrute's voice  :lol:

#2550290 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 04:42 PM

Ok ladies, here we go.  Kill, marry, bang.




Hitler, me, Hitler.

It's not an exact answer, but Michael Scott seems to know.

#2550282 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 04:18 PM

I love how everyone hates plus/minus until they can use it to bash someone they already hate.  If it's a stupid stat, it's a stupid stat always.

What!? You can't take it away from me. Lashoff is a +2.

Lash > Kronwall > Quincey

#2550265 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 03:57 PM

Why are people comparing Nestrasil to Cleary? Cleary isn't the reason Nestrasil got exposed and claimed on waivers. Cleary wasn't going to be waived, nor should he have been. Cleary brings so much more than what he shows on the ice to this team, the experience and leadership he provides, on and off the ice, can't just be replaced, and certainly not by a 23 year old kid. If not Nestrasil, Jurco would have been sent down, and maybe in hindsight that would have been the better choice. But where is all of this upside that everyone sees in Nestrasil? I just don't get it. He was a body on the ice for 13 games, a big body sure, but that's about it. He could barely crack the Grand Rapids line up last season and to be honest should have never cracked our lineup this season. It would have been nice to see him clear and provide some support down in Grand Rapids this year but in reality he probably never would have cracked the Wings lineup on a full time basis, not this year, not next year, not ever. We have a ton of more skilled guys knocking on the door, he will not be missed. We even have a player that we signed in the offseason who is similar in stature but much more skilled, in Tomas Nosek. Good luck in Carolina Nestrasil, unfortunately you will probably end up down in Charlotte after 30 days...

Ok, but let's play a game. Play, Bench, Waive for Cally, Cleary and Nestrail. GO!




Am I the only one that thinks Cleary has looked fine so far this season?  Better than Nestrasil even?


No, he has. Even without his two points, I think he's done more in terms of puck protection and keeping it in the offensive zone than some of the others. 

#2550177 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 12:43 PM


They shouldn't have been handling his money in the first place.  I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to pick up on.  Do any of you have a joint bank account with your parents?  Do any of you let your parents buy things in your name, or with your money?  When was the last time you looked at your bank account and thought "hmmm, mom didn't spend as much as I thought she would?".  Never?  That's because only stupid people let others (including their parents) spend their money. 

I never had a joint bank account, but my mother knew my pin number and if she was out running errands, would use my card if I had bills to pay and she happened to be going to the bank. Similarly, if I went out the buy groceries so she didn't have to do it, I would have access to her card and bank account. We didn't steal from each other, because we're family and not s***ty people. I understand  the concept of having access to a family member's money, but I don't understand the concept of using your family's money without their permission. 

#2550148 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 12:06 PM


Well by all means, give him access to your bank account and be sure to seek his advice when investing. 


He's stupid for thinking that his parents could reasonably pursue his best interest financially, even if they did have his best interest at heart.  I don't know 10 people who can even balance a checkbook properly, and now suddenly your parents are competent to handle millions of dollars simply because they're supposed to love you?  It's idiotic.  Again, if you're a millionaire and you don't hire reputable, professional, accountants to handle your money, you are stupid.  Stupid, stupid, stupid. 


That's not even the point, but go ahead with that. There's a difference between smart financial planning and people blowing all of your money without telling you.





When I first saw the headline I thought "what a moron."  But reading more about it and hearing what his parents did puts  it in a whole different light for me. 


I had the same reaction.

#2550134 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 11:28 AM

He's an idiot? Really?

I can't speak for anyone else, but the last person in this world I'd expect to screw me over financially is my mother. It's one thing to be awful with money, but what they did with his money goes beyond being financially irresponsible - they milked the **** out of him. They treated him like a cash cow and ran his debt into the ground. The amount they spent/lost has more to do with their greed and taking advantage of a situation than it does with making smart decisions. Disgusting on their part.

#2550117 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by Jesusberg on 20 November 2014 - 09:54 AM

I use griffinscentral.com, too. I really wish someone closer covered the prospects on a game-to-game basis, but maybe the demand just isn't there. I'd love to read about how all of the prospects look more often.

#2549517 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 November 2014 - 08:05 AM


He's not anything close to Mantha (yet). Grouping those two together is overrating Larkin. Mantha is the only true untouchable prospect in our system.

Grouping them together has more to do with Detroit's need for depth at C than anything - Mantha is clearly the superior player. I'd say it's more like mentioning the two players as being off limits for trades, not necessarily for the same reasons. I'm just talking about not giving up a player based on his relative value to this team. Outside of Larkin, the team has Janmark and Athanasiou if he winds up playing C.

#2549212 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

I want one more Cup with Datsyuk. Larkin may or may not become a franchise player. Odds are, he won't - and even if he does, that's years and years down the road. He's two or three years away from going pro, and then he has to spend at least one season on the farm, and then maybe he gets a shot with the big club, and then maybe a couple years later we can say this kid is looking like a key part of the team (at which point Myers might very well be our #1 defenseman). As for next year's first - again, what are we hoping for? "We need to think of our future. We might have the chance to pick a very special player who could help us for the next 10+ years." Well, Myers fits that bill, and he has a track record at the NHL level. And it's not like Mantha's going anywhere.


Granted, our pipeline is definitely lacking in top-end centermen. And I know that Holland has to keep one eye on the distant future at all times. (I understand the long game. I know this season isn't really about winning the Cup.) But if we're not even going to consider moving Larkin (or Jurco or Sproul or, basically, anyone with good upside) for anyone, not even a stud defenseman with all the attributes we've been looking for...I don't understand that. If we had Myers and we were talking about maybe trading him to Buffalo for Dylan Larkin, I guarantee you none of us would be remotely on board with that.


So hoping that Larkin is going to be a legitimate top six center is frivolous, but hoping Myers can turn it around isn't? Myers might very well be our #1 defender, but Larkin may very well become a #1 center. What's the difference? Time? Myers does have a proven track record at the NHL level - one of regression after his first two years.

This team is most definitely lacking top-end centermen, and our current ones are long in the tooth. I'm all for beefing up the blueline, but not at the expense of moving a player from a position of weakness. I don't think Larkin is the next coming, but I do think that this team is going to need a center at that point much more than a defender. The great thing about having 4-5 potential NHL defenders is that we're going to get to see which ones stick, and which don't. This team doesn't have that luxury up front, and needs to keep the talent they have there.

I'm not anti-Myers at all - I think he's a solid defender, and he could turn things around... but that's just not worth the gamble of moving this team's best center prospect. If this team had some younger guys up the middle, or if Nyquist could convert to center, perhaps. Not right now, though.



Everyone knew Garth Snow needed at least one top-four defenseman.


Just saying.


Sure, and both guys were coming from teams in desperate need of cap space. Boston, in particular, dreaded moving Boychuk. Chicago and Boston moved two players out of necessity, to a team they don't believe to be a legitimate contender. Boston got two 2nd round picks from the Isles - I doubt two 2nd rounders from Detroit would fetch the same kind of player, but who knows.  What I do know is that someone like Buffalo, a team in the same conference, isn't going to be doing Detroit any favors - they don't need to move Myers.

#2549191 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 November 2014 - 12:14 PM

That Mantha-Miele-Pulu line, though...

Seriously thinking it would be a smart idea to swap Jurco/Pulkkinen soon. If the Datsyuk experiment doesn't get Jurco going, maybe the AHL will. I think Pulkkinen is showing he deserves a look, at the very least.

#2549190 General discussion for tonight's games

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 November 2014 - 12:08 PM

The parity in the NHL is just insane now - it's so difficult to predict who's going to win/go on streaks, anymore. Even some of the powerhouse teams (Boston, St. Louis, Los Angeles) have had a ton of ups and downs this season. Meanwhile, teams like Calgary, Nashville, Winnipeg and Vancouver are coming out of nowhere. It's just mind boggling (and a pain if you're into fantasy hockey or Pro-Line).

#2549187 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 16 November 2014 - 11:54 AM

His offers were pretty on par with what was taken by those players. It's not like they weren't in the same ball park. He struck out, but after he said he wouldn't try to sign all these big name guys he did exactly that. He lied, he said one thing, then did another. If he wouldn't have tried I would be more inclined to accept the trying to improve with youth argument. The team is injected with youth for the sole reason that no fa's wanted to come here and they had no choice.


So you're criticizing him for not being able to get players here, yet upset because he tried without showing his hand? You're not going to publicly state, "I want Dan Boyle to sign here, we think he's going to improve our powerplay." What negotiating leverage would that give the team? Teams know Detroit is desperate for a RH defender, and they're asking for an arm and a leg in trade discussions. Kenny's not exactly playing from a position of strength.

Kenny did strike out, and that's why the youth movement is here... but what have those other FA's done? Stralman's played well, but you can argue that part of his success is in due part to Tampa's system. I'm kind of glad he struck out this off-season, to be honest. The previous one, we landed Alfie and Weiss (who's showing, for right now anyway, that signing FA's long term can be risky) who were two of the "bigger fish". Can't win every off season.

#2548649 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 November 2014 - 12:57 PM



Well we might as well discuss trading for Edler now too.


Did his off season training include an ambidexterity routine? ;)

As far as the actual lines are concerned, the growing trend of "insert scrub on line with star players" is here to stay. I truly feel as if the days of true top lines is being weeded out. There are a few right now - Kunitz-Crosby-Hornqvist, Forsberg-Ribiero-Neal, Benn-Spezza-Seguin (before Spezza was moved back to 2C).

Other teams, especially ones who are scrambling for offense, are mixing and matching. San Jose's throwing Wingels on lines with Marleau-Couture, Thornton-Pavelski, Patty Maroon and Smith-Pelly have both been used with Getzlaf-Perry. Last night, Washington used Ovie-Backstrom-Beagle, so it's not like this is a Red Wings thing.

Seems to me like we're seeing more 2nd and 3rd lines shine (with pure offensive talent, using younger players) - Pearson-Carter-Toffoli, Schwartz-Lehtera-Tarasenko, Palat-Johnson-Kucherov. Teams are kind of canceling those top lines out, and hoping the secondary scoring can come through. Not saying it's the best way to go, but it seems to be what's happening now in the NHL - seeking offense from young players on lower lines. If Detroit can get guys like Tatar, Jurco, etc going, I see the offense kicking in. I'm of the opinion that it may be time to send Jurco down for a bit, and call Pulkkinen up and play him on that 3rd line.

#2548058 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 08 November 2014 - 04:46 PM

Troubling part of that update says Quincey is in but not sure whoes sitting. Really? Is Kindl going to sit? Not likely, Dekeyser? No chance, Kronwall or Ericsson? Probs not. That would leave Smith or Lashoff. Smith plays 20 a night has developed great chemistry with Dekeyser but I could see Babs sitting Smith. Would be outlandish considering the minutes he's chewing up right now, but not at all surprising to me anyways.


I think it's obviously Lash. He's played solid, but Quincey is better. The rest have or are establishing more value to the team.