I think Jurco's issue is that he's going to try to do too much on that line, because he wants to stay up there. Ironically, if he just plays a simple game, there's a much better chance he'll work himself into a top-six (more likely top-nine) role. His skill will take over if he keeps it simple.
My guess is the team will look much better tonight. I doubt they'll start strong, but I see them taking over in the 2nd and 3rd periods.
Am I the only one who thought Quincey had a rough game? I'm not blaming him, but I thought his skating was really choppy. I think he's had a fantastic season, but if his ankle injury is going to cause an issue, he should take care of it. Perhaps he just had an "off" game. Maybe I'm imagining things.
I'm 100% behind a healthy Quincey in the line-up. Hopefully he looks better next game.
If helms healthy, I want him on the foirth line.
And did we send Jurco down in your proposed lineup?
Because I imagine wed keep Jurco in over pulks for the playoff considering he already has playoff experience + his size, speed, and how heavy he hits.
Nope. Honestly, I was just thinking of the next game.
Posted by Jesusberg
on 19 February 2015 - 09:30 AM
OK, every one start chipping in for the PPV. Kip vs. krsmith, best two out of three posts.
I call special guest referee.
Edit: Oh yeah, we're talking about Pulkkinen. I'm going to borrow an idea from Malik (yes, he offers some solid commentary at times) and say I thought he played with really good pace. He was after the puck all game - some good stick work on his end. He needs to learn to get his shot off much quicker, though. Far less time in the NHL to wind up. In fact, I think he really needs to start getting away from the wind-up. I know it's his bread and butter, but until he figures out how to create more space for himself, he'll need to find another way to his shot off.
Posted by Jesusberg
on 18 February 2015 - 11:32 AM
Jesusberg, I'm not sure why you directed all that at me. It's like you're trying to convince me that Jurco should be down in Grand Rapids, when you know just as well as anyone here that I was one of the few advocating that Jurco spend another half to full season down in Grand Rapids. There's not a question in my mind that his game would have benefited, and he would be further along in his development with more time in the AHL, and I'm starting to wonder if him being rushed into the NHL hasn't stunted his development a little. Like I've said before, I kind of feel that this has been a rare case of mismanagement of a very promising prospect by the Red Wings... He should have absolutely been down with the Griffs on a line with Pulkkinen all season, and if he were, they would have definitely been 1 / 2 in scoring, ripping up the American League. I also agree that Callahan would have been the better option to have up here, but that's more in place of Andersson, not Jurco.
As for Babcock pushing players like Tatar. I'm well aware of that, and that's what I feel he is doing with Jurco as well. Like I said, maybe there is a method to his madness, but sometimes it is very hard to see as a fan, when you watch a player struggle in a role that he shouldn't have been put in in the first place. Maybe Jurco does benefit from Babcock's "tough love" and it makes him stronger mentally and helps round out his game... who knows...
I also said he should be with scoring players, and that includes playing on a third line with Sheahan and Weiss or whoever. I just don't believe he should be on the 4th line in a grinding role with the likes of Glendening, Miller and Andersson.
Oh, I wasn't directing it at you. More like expanding on some of what you said, and maybe taking a different approach as to why he's on the 4th line. You and I were two of the few suggesting that Jurco starting the year in the AHL might be for the best.
Really, that's why I was comparing Callahan and Jurco. It's not a direct comparison regarding their skill level, but rather their assumed role on the Wings.This team has enough scoring forwards - guys who fit into the top 9. Callahan could slot into a role as a net front presence, but he also makes sense on a fourth line. It's not going to hurt Callahan, because he's got a lower ceiling than Jurco.
Edit: It's entirely possible that the team didn't have faith in Weiss' scoring ability (or healthy, for that matter), and I doubt they thought Helm was going to be used as a complimentary winger in the top 6. It was likely about depth, more than anything.
Plus, I'm pretty sure getting Jurco on this team was one of the "battles" that Babcock won against Holland, with Ouellet being sent down as the one he lost.