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#2528269 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 02:01 PM

If I'm Jakub Kindl, I'm teaching myself how to shoot right-handed over the summer.

#2527455 It's too bad about us having Weiss...

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 10:42 PM

No, we're not in on Stastny... Did we really need another thread for this? It couldn't have been discussed in any of the other dozen UFA threads?...

No, because then it would get lost in the shuffle with the, "It's a shame we have Franzen, Vanek would be sweeeet" posts.

#2527197 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 12:29 PM

I seriously feel like Detroit, Minny and Tampa are all going hard after Niskanen, Boyle and Gilbert. The "winner" is going to get Niskanen, and the other two teams will get Boyle and Gilbert. Kind of glad Ehrhoff got thrown into the mix - could make things interesting.

#2527196 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Jesusberg on 30 June 2014 - 12:27 PM

Not as big as some of the other names here, but it appears Detroit is going to bring back McCollum. I don't mind it, but I hope he doesn't get in the way of Mrazek playing 50-60 games.


#2525988 Teams to be compensated for losing personnel to other teams

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 09:10 PM

I really like this, but it obviously won't be retroactive will it?...

No, because that would be unfair...  *cough* Cap Hit Recapture *cough*

#2525840 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:48 AM


That's the new LGWs mentality. That and blindly bashing management for everything that happens in Michigan except for maybe the price of a 6-pack of Founder's.  


FTR, I think it's in Detroit's best long-term interest to have Gilbert at $3,500,000/yr for 2 years (which I think is what Holland will do) vs Niskanen at $6,000,000/yr for 7 (which is what I think he will get on the open market)


I personally would take Stralman over Gilbert (if Boyle doesn't work out), but I agree 100% with that two-year term. Every one calling for this team to get younger needs to realize that Ouellet, Sproul, Backman and Marchenko, at most, should start out playing sheltered minutes. For them to get to that "top 4" level, they're going to need to learn and that means signing a stop-gap veteran right now.

Holland has made some mistakes with vet signings in the recent past (Samuelsson, Cleary, arguably Bertuzzi), but that doesn't mean this would be one. He underestimated the NHL readiness of kids who played 4 (Tatar) and 2+ (Nyquist) seasons at the AHL level. I don't think that would be the case with these defenders, yet.

#2525832 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:30 AM

It's a good signing. Mrazek gets the chance to be a monster (pun intended) in GR. I've said it in other posts, and I'll say it again - if there's a flaw that I see in Petr's game, it's his consistency. Giving him a full year in the AHL, playing 60 something games is going to test him mentality (He wants to be up now, can he make the best of his situation?), and physically (Is he a workhorse? Can he play a ton of games, night in and night out?)

He's a great goaltending prospect, but there are still question marks surrounding him. Don't just look at stats - look at the overall picture and how goalies mature. Signing Gustavsson (in theory) is going to give a more clear picture of what kind of goalie Petr Mrazek is, playing as a starting goaltender at a pro hockey level. (not a guy who comes in and steals the starting job, and not a guy who splits the season with McCollum)

#2525827 Adam Almquist signed with KHL club

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 June 2014 - 11:18 AM

Honestly, I don't think it has as much to do with Almqvist "not being good enough" as him being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They're all gaga over finding a RH shot right now, so Sproul and Marchenko already look markedly better than he does. Obviously his size works against him, and if he had better foot speed, it could be worked around. If the reports about him being unwilling to hit the gym are true, then he kind of kicked himself there.

He's a skilled guy - great hockey IQ and works the blueline on the PP very well. Just didn't work out, as there are more appealing prospects in the system just behind him.

#2525472 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 24 June 2014 - 12:24 PM

I swear tof****** god that sometimes this forum is like a hockey version of "The View". Super over-the-top theatrical, petulant, and diva's everywhere......


Did anyone actually read this article from Kulfan????!!!!!!!




That would involve reading beyond, "Alfredsson shows inter..." *RAGE*

"God, I hate Kenny! He wants to destroy this team from the inside out!"

#2525461 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 24 June 2014 - 11:31 AM

I think some of you gents need to just breeeathe. At lot of points that I agree with have already been made, but for me it comes down to this.

Did Alfie help this team last season? Yes?
Can he help them this coming season? Yes, I believe he can.
Lastly, are any of the UFA's on the market this off-season "game breakers", who will inevitably bring us straight to the cup?

Not that I believe any single ever player can, but definitely not.

In my eyes, there's no one being pushed out of this line-up because of Alfie's inclusion that is going to have a drastic impact on this team in the future (no disrespect to Ferraro/Callahan). And even in their case, I believe that Andersson should be traded to make room for one of those two guys (we're good at center right now).

#2525331 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 June 2014 - 05:18 PM

Man, I don't care if the guy's 42, 45, 58 1/2 - it's one less spot for Dan Cleary.

#2524557 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Jesusberg on 19 June 2014 - 10:22 AM

Calling up Mrazek when Gus is hurt just lets him sit.  He doesn't get to play.  If he split games with Jimmy (not evenly of course) he'd get more NHL experience.  Again, imho, he's nothing more to prove in the AHL. 

Says who? He played 9 while he was called up this season. He'll play the majority of the games down in Grand Rapids (as he should), and if need be he'll come up and play a few in a Wings uniform. I don't know where this whole, "he's got nothing more to prove in the AHL" thing came about. He stole McCollum's job in his first year - while he was supposed to be the full-time starter this season, McCollum played the brunt of the games.


I truly believe that Petr needs a full season of 45-50 games as the Griffins starter, maintaining his numbers over that time. He shows great spurts of talent, but if I had to knock one thing about Mrazek it's his lack of consistency. He'll get a shutout one game, let in 4-5 the next. I'd like to see him get into a nice rhythm, personally.

#2524474 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 June 2014 - 04:59 PM


As I did with someone else earlier, I numbered the parts of your message that I'm going to respond to because you contained a lot of information, some of which I agree with. 


1.  What's he going to teach the kids that Kronwall can't?  Is he that much wiser or more accomplished than Kronner?


2.  Signing old players and asking them to play big roles (top four d-man in Boyle's case) only increases the likelihood that injuries will continue to be a problem.  I see no reason to think that injuries to our key players (who are all old) are going to decline going forward.


3.  Singing Boyle to play alongside Kronwall, Dekeyser, Smith, and Ericsson ensures that only one of the three players you mentioned (nevermind Backman or Jensen) will see significant playing time until at least the end of Boyle's two year contract (which he's seeking).  Therefore, for at least the next two years the other two guys are riding the pine as the 7th d-man or playing in GR.  I'd prefer they get NHL experience if they're going to factor so heavily into our future plans. 


4.  If all we're getting is leadership we don't really need, and a bump in our powerplay (hopefully), why not sign Stephane Robidas for half that and use the savings to pursue a forward who isn't small and/or old and/or injured constantly?


Overall, I don't think you're hugely off base with your logic or anything.  I think we just disagree on the relative value of Boyle given where he's at in his career as well as where we're at in our rebuild. 


Edit:  Just so you know, the comment about Stephane Robidas is tongue in cheek.  I don't really want him.  I'm just saying he'd give you everything Boyle does, and more cheaply.

I'll do the same as far as numbering goes.

#1: I don't think he's got leaps and bounds more knowledge than Kronwall does, but I think that if you look at both careers, Boyle is superior offensively. Now is that in part because San Jose has been an offensive juggernaut for years/Kronwall was playing on a second pairing? More than likely, but I still think he's got some great offensive knowledge that can be passed onto the kids, namely Smith, Sproul, Ouellet and Jensen.

#2: I think we look at defense cores differently. Maybe it's just me, but I see teams using a balance going forward now, with all the parity in the league. While I do think there can be monster top pairings, (Keith-Seabrook, Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo, Markov-Subban) I think that the league in general is getting away from stacking players, and going more for balance. In our case, while I think DeKeyser has a lot to offer going forward, I'm not sure he should be counted on for his own pairing. I think balanced minutes and balanced pairings are the way to go in the league, now. Kronwall-Smith, DeKeyser-Boyle, Ericsson-Sporul/Marchenko. I don't think that's a demotion to Ericsson - rather, I feel like he's being put in charge of his own pairing and helping to balance out a rookie. Boyle would be doing the same for DeKeyser, as Kronwall does for Smith.

#3: I can see the argument in the second year of Boyle's (potential) deal. I wouldn't want to see a NHL-ready Ouellet, Sproul, Marchenko sitting in GR, either. I think someone (Dickie Dunn?) has mentioned that Lashoff is essentially the perfect 7th guy. He's cheap, still young and not good enough that he should be threatening for a top 6 spot with any merit. I wouldn't want to see any of those guys with potential wasted, either. That being said, we have another problem without factoring Boyle into the mix. We've got Kronwall, Ericsson locked up, and Smith and DeKeyser as probable keepers moving forward. Trying to shove Sproul, Ouellet, Backman, Marchenko, etc into the mix... there's clearly a logjam. In a perfect world, I'd move Smith as part of a deal for a legitimate top pairing guy in his prime, but that's another story and pipe dream in my estimation.

#4: I'd have no issue with Robidas, if that's what I thought this team needed. To be totally honest, I'm not even that high on Dan Boyle (believe it or not). I just think that given our set of circumstances, he's the most beneficial and realistic option for this off season. Niskanen is going to cost too much (term and salary), Gilbert is a poor man's PP specialist, the kids aren't there YET, etc. The team needs a PP boost, a right-handed shot and someone to help get the puck up ice. Right now I think Dan Boyle fits that need.

I don't think we're that far off on the logic here, either. I can see your argument, and I agree with our differing opinions on Boyle value. I also think we have differing philosophies when it comes to the next step for the team, but as you've said, I can see both sides of it. 

#2524456 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM


Exactly, which is why I'm advocating we either A) acquire multiple impact players, or B) have faith that our kids will be impact players and then give them roster spots and ice time to prove it.


There's no combination of Boyle + Kids that makes us good enough to compete for a Cup before he retires at the end of whatever contract he signs this year.  And by signing him and nobody better, you've already conceded that you're not winning anything next year.  So even in the best case scenario you've only got a one year window of opportunity for him to be a "piece of the puzzle".  At which point he'll be 39 years old and will have declined further than he already has.


All for about 5 million a year. 

So then C) Acquire Boyle and allow him to pass on knowledge (not just faith) to the kids, helping along their ability to become impact players isn't an option? Ok, I guess.

It's easy to say there's no combination of Boyle + prospects that help us compete for a Cup, but I don't feel that to be true. At the very least, I'm not going to write off a team that suffered all the injuries that they did this past year. Nor do I think that signing Boyle would be conceding to failure - rather, it would be preparing the kids better.

I feel like the argument being presented is working in extremes. "We go for the cup, or we let the kids sink/swim. Signing Boyle means we're giving up." I can kind of see the basis for your argument, but at the same time I don't see at all how singing a PP specialist, vet is going to hurt the process of creating solid defenders out of Ouellet, Sproul, Marchenko, etc. I personally think that having two of those three guys in the line-up, next season, is rushing things a bit. They've all had one year in GR.

As far as the whole 5 million tag, the last thing this team needs to worry about is the cap. They're comfortable, and the RFA's who need to be signed aren't going to take up that big of a chunk.

#2524448 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Jesusberg on 18 June 2014 - 01:53 PM


How is he going to help the kids any more than the vets we already have?  We're not Edmonton, we've got tons of highly successful veterans on our team.  And also, anything you gain in that regard is offset by the fact that he's old, slow, small, and even in his best years was only ok at actually playing defense. 

Because he's a great asset on the PP, even in his diminished state. Outside of Kronwall, who is really effective on the powerplay on this team? Seriously?

Even then, it's been mentioned by Wings' brass on several occasions that they sorely miss Lidstrom's ability to get pucks through on the PP. I'm a huge Kronwall fan, but that's something he struggles with - a year ago, Kindl was doing it better than he was. I don't think Dan Boyle is the answer, but I do think he has a place and role on this team. I don't believe he's the useless void that many feel he would be on this team. At worst, the guy is a powerplay specialist, a right-handed shot and someone who can get the puck up the ice better than most of our defenders.

I understand he's long in the tooth and has certainly lost a step, but I feel like he can help this team and its young players more than most people think.