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#2430656 Rule 48: not working as planned.

Posted by DickieDunn on 18 July 2013 - 12:32 PM

That's what happens when you base your punishment on the result of the hit instead of the hit itself. An illegal hit should be punished as much if the other guy bounces right back up as it is if he's going to be out 8 weeks.

#2430586 Um, OK, not really sure this'll have the desired effect

Posted by Kira on 17 July 2013 - 10:01 PM

My hubby says it's the color of the belly of a catfish.  As he loves to fish, I'll take his word for it.  It is appropriate, I suppose, since a) They throw catfish on the ice down there, and b) One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish.

#2424870 Red Wings won't pursue David Clarkson

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 02 July 2013 - 05:38 PM



Well, in my eyes that's even more disappointing than not getting Vinny. I really wanted Clarkson, but looks like he's asking for more than Holland is willing to pay. Personally, I think he's the type of player we should overpay to get... For now I'm gonna stick with the "in Kenny we trust" philosophy, but so far this has been quite a disappointing day...

#2421912 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by kipwinger on 24 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

Lidstrom, bar none.  Orr didn't play defense.  He had a good plus/minus because he put up a zillion points.  Tighter defense and better goaltending would expose his "offensive prowess" and his defensive numbers would likewise suffer.  Orr's over rated, Lids played in a time when scoring was harder, defensive assignments were tougher, and going "coast to coast" was almost unheard of.  Even then he managed to win 7 Norris Trophies and and twice as many Stanley Cups and he was a factor in every one of them.  Bobby was good, but score 150 going end to end against Weber, Suter, and Rinne.  Not happening buddy. 

#2421846 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by Dave on 24 June 2013 - 08:02 PM

Except, no one besides Orr put up even remotely as many points back then from the blueline.  How come nobody else did that if Orr was just taking advantage of poor goaltending?  Is it because there were no other good defensemen back then?  Hardly.  
This argument is flawed, because to me if a guy dominates his era and is far above others, he's truly amazing and could have succeeded in any era with improved modern day training and equipment.  
Same thing with people who say that Wilt Chamberlain only dominated because he was so tall compared to others of his era?  Well, how come Bill Russell didn't easily score 50 points a season, since he was really tall too?  
Relative to their eras and their competition, Orr was twice as good as Lidstrom.  And I'd argue there were more good defensemen in Orr's prime than there were in Lidstrom's, as relative competition.  

It's the same reason Royce Gracie dominated in the early years of UFC, then proceeded to get dominated by the later generations of fighters.

Was Orr better than his competition of the time? Absolutely, no question. However, his competition is so far below today's NHL that his gaudy numbers would never happen in today's game.

Another good comparison would be Maltby dominating in juniors. He was way better than his competition, but he couldn't dominate like that against higher skilled players.

#2421991 If the Hawks win the Cup... (new license plate)

Posted by turbowhistle86 on 24 June 2013 - 10:31 PM


#2418788 2013 Stanley Cup Finals - Boston Bruins vs. Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by Dabura on 09 June 2013 - 07:10 AM

Bruins just swept the most dangerous team in hockey, limiting them to two goals. Two goals.


We almost beat the 'hawks in less than seven games.


I like Boston's chances.

#2418764 What would you give up for Malkin?

Posted by martinezsvsu on 08 June 2013 - 11:55 PM

its simple. if hes a free agent, go for him. dont trade for him.

#2418737 What would you give up for Malkin?

Posted by Richdg on 08 June 2013 - 10:24 PM

If they were going to move him-doubt it, I would give whatever they wanted. Malkin has and will continue to out score most of our forwards combined. He has 560 career points in 458 regular season games. In the playoffs he has 97 points in 82 games. That my friends is production. Proven production. That is better than either Datsyuk or Zetterberg. Malkin would be our best player and it isn't even close. At 26-soone to be 27, he has 8-10 GREAT years left.

On the open market he would get a 7 year (max) 70 million deal. If he resigns with his current team, they can go to 8 years. This is big. As for paying him, how much wasted money are the wings currently carrying? Bert-2 million, Sammy-3 million, Q-almost 4 million, Cola-2.5 million, Cleary-3 million. That is 14.5 million just on those guys.

But we would have to move our prospects. So? At best 1 out of 5 ever make it. Most don't. Nyquist, tatar, and Anderson will never produce the same amount as Malkin. Heck he might even produce MORE playing with his countryman and Ideal-Datsyuk.

Our issue this past year was O. Adding a 50+ goal guy fixes that overnight.


Now wil this ever happen? No. Holland doesn't have the stones for this type of move anymore. This would be a better move than when we traded Primeau for Shanahan.Yes Kieth turned into a great player-before the head injuries, but Shanny got us 4 cups. In the end that is what matters. Cups. Malkin makes us a cup contender. The others don't.

#2418487 ECF - (4) Boston Bruins vs. (1) Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by BuckeyeWingsfan80 on 07 June 2013 - 10:59 PM


#2415599 WCSF Game 7 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blackhawks 2 OT (CHI wins series, 4-3)

Posted by evilmrt on 29 May 2013 - 10:05 PM

wtf nyquist was boarded!

Whistle away to make up for questionable disallowed goal. Classic NHL garbage.

Well, that's it for hockey this season for me.

#2396546 WCQF Game 3 GDT - Ducks 4 @ Red Wings 0 (ANA leads series 2-1)

Posted by datterberg1340 on 04 May 2013 - 09:13 PM

as soon as I heard DeKeyser was out for the rest of the playoffs I got a real bad, sinking feeling


as sad as it may be, we needed him around to be a factor in these playoffs it seems


I hope I'm wrong

#2395040 Danny DeKeyser suffers broken thumb, out for playoffs

Posted by Greatness=PavelDatsyuk on 03 May 2013 - 12:32 AM

f***. White better step it up.

EDIT: Coli or Lashoff are much better options, keep White off the ice.

#2391259 Thank You Detroit Red Wings...

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

I just wanted to start a topic for us to say Thanks to the Red Wings for providing us with a great regular season despite all the adversities and drama and odds against us! (Thank God, we didn't hear the "Too Old" card this year.)


So, despite all of this:


  • Nick Lidstrom retiring
  • Tomas Holmstrom retiring
  • Brad Stuart trade
  • New Asst. Coach
  • Losing out on Parise, Suter, Schultz, Doan and every other "Top" UFA
  • Countless injuries to our Defense creating our youngest average D since Nick and Vladdy were Rookies
  • Gustavsson hurting himself and never really turning into a reliable backup
  • Losing Helm for the season (again)
  • Losing Bertuzzi's experience and Sammy to injury


(I am sure that I am leaving something out)


But anyway, despite all of this and despite the experts having us out of the playoffs for the first time since I turned 20, THE Detroit Red Wings proved once again, that when it comes to being a perennial winning team in the NHL, nobody does it better! Eat that Olsen Twins!


SO, Despite all the above mentioned scenarios that were supposed to have us dwelling at the bottom of the NHL, you guys did it.  No matter where you go in the playoffs, this is a winning season and every other team in the league is just shaking their heads right now!


Watch out NHL, don't look now, because the Red Wings just rebuilt on the fly and will be back on top sooner than you can say 22 straight years!


THANK YOU DETROIT RED WINGS for a regular season to remember! (now lets spoil some parties!)

#2391378 Jim Nill to be named Dallas Stars GM

Posted by Playmaker on 28 April 2013 - 10:56 AM

Mark Howe doesn't seem to have the personality to be a GM.  I don't really care what his last name is.  I want a GM who can do the job.  Former star players don't often succeed as General Managers.  Plus, Mark Howe is almost 58 years old.  Not really of "grooming" age.   I don't really see Ken Holland going anywhere anytime soon.