Still don't understand your excitement about this guy. I'm Russian... so I always prefer skill rather than brute and stupid force. So Lids or Zubie for me rather than Stevens. That is one of the reasons I'm a fan of the Red Wings.
Stevens was one of the best players in the game, he is a first year ballot hall of famer, he had plenty of skill, I just can't see how you can't enjoy and respect him, he is obviously not as good as lids but he is easily in contention with zubov and btw there was a red wings who played exactly like stevens don't forget
If Kronwall getting five and a game for leveling Havlat in a perfectly legal manner is any indication, then yes.
Another good example, Brown got five and a game for that too.
I guess I have bad memory, those 2 hits were awful calls, especially in the playoffs where more physicality should be accepted.
Bottom line is, if someone is hurt, there must have been something illegal to call Its ridiculous.
Utterly ridiculous hitting in the NHL (and all hockey) is intent to injure or at least stun/bruise/strike fear into the opponent, sometimes guys get hurt, as long as the elbows aren't up, it is within a fair amount of time after the puck leaves, if the player is grounded, if he doesn't take more than 3 hard strides, and doesn't target the head on a blindside, who really cares? The problem with the nhl is the media today is far too reactionary to borderline hits, hits like the cooke and richards ones have happened for years, but because they got attention this year they were banned, yes the blindside headshots don't belong in the game, but for some people if this can get banned, than so can any hit with the slightest amount of head contact, which would take hitting out of the game.
This guy was a master of the game. I'm kind of shocked to read some people talking about how his hits were illegal. Im not saying that the hits arent illegal on todays standards, but they seemed pretty standard in the Stevens Era. The guy may have been waking a thin line with many of his its (leaving feet, hitting high, hitting late) but Hits were a part of the game then, and this guy was awesome at it. I know hockey has changed alot over the last few years, im not saying that players are "softer" but the league is taking alot more precautions (and i respect that, noone wants to see anyone get hurt or anything) but back in the day, alot of people were watching hockey because they loved the physicality of it, and man could Stevens produce.
Im not saying that im one of those guys that love violence and love to see people get hurt, but man i miss old school hockey. Yes there was more violence and a higher potential of getting hurt, but there were a hell of alot less questionable penalties. Nowadays the refs blow the whistle if a player looks at someone the wrong way, or if his hand comes off his stick to scratch his nose. I liked the old school hockey where the refs let the good ol boys play! A penalty was a penalty back then, and thats how it should be!
It was truly a sad day when Stevens retired! I got really excited 2 seasons ago when Kronwall really started to step up his physical game. I could see shades of Scott Stevens in his hits and my eyes would light up when i would see Kronner line someone up (I.e. Havlat). But ever since his last few injuries he has really slowed down that aspect of his game. Its kind of dissapointing to me, because Kronner isnt the best defensive Dmen but his physical play was making up for the areas that he was slacking in. But now to me Kronner either needs to become more of an offensive Dmen or bring back that physical play to make up for his flaws. His offense is picking up, but man id like to see him and Stuart together bruising some players up (legally).
The dude just flips a guy with his forarm on one of those, he knew the path that players took when they were most vulnerable and he exploited it, I guess he was the only guy to ever figure it out down to a science so that was his victory, he was within the rules for most of his biggest hits.
It would be interesting to see if there would be a penalty in today's NHL on that hit.
It was similar to say Brown on Hudler, I don't remember if that one was penalized but I thought it was legal.
I think he was able to do it with dignity, however. Listen to him and then compare him to the Capitals PA announcer, who is basically just trying to shout as loud and as undecipherable as possible.
I cant stand either, but i try to pay attention as little as possible to pa announcers on TV, those 2 are easily noticeable, in the wrong way. As far as in arena, the balckhawks guy is pretty shallow, faux, and crappy, I was able to hear bud lynch as the reg guy and the new guy, the new guy doesn't have a nostalgic voice but he also isn't overly exuberant and doesn't really get annoying, I hardly pay attention though when I'm at the game.
Its true, I dunno who gave you minus 2 but he definitely does not use his size like he should. If he played with the guts of Helm he would be an unstoppable force out there. saying he plays smaller then Hudler is a stretch but he definitely does play smaller then he should. Back before he was a goal scorer, he used to cream guys, now he doesn't
franzen does not play like hudler, he routinely battles his way to the net and hits guys, he is merely a coward when it comes to fighting, but not fighting doesn't mean playing like hudler like some here believe.