The Franzen hate needs to end. I know his contract is a little long, but for the cap hit he's a bargain at his production level. Not every scorer can produce as consistently as Stamkos and other ELITE guys can. Franzen, like most scoring types, is streaky. Does he amp it up to the next level in the playoffs and such? Yes. Does he completely take nights off like 2011-12 Ovechkin/Semin? No.
We've been spoiled by the Yzerman's and the Datsyuk's. Not all players can be that perfect. I'm happy to have Franzen on this team.
Again, I ask, and no one has answered, when he is 40 will you still expect him to play like a 4 mil a year player?
I don't, I expect him to play like a 40 year old (if still playing), right now I expect him to play 32 year old, and to play hard every night.
You mentioned not everyone can be Like Yzerman or Dats, but the list of guys hustling every night while wearing the Winged Wheel goes much deeper than those two: Draper, Cheli, Z, Mac, Maltby, etc...
He was given the security of a career long contract, sure the team got a cap friendly hit, but he never has to get a contract again, he can score 5 goals a year the rest of his career and not need to worry about a contract ever again.
His contract is player and team friendly, not just one way.
And someone mentioned Cleary falling down or Kronner's bad passing even Sammy's shinguard assault or Helm's hands of cement, I can keep listing players short comings or mistakes.
However; IMO lack of skill or execution is far more excusable than lack of effort!
I respect Tootoo more as a player than I do Franzen, and I am by no means a grit and sandpaper guy, but when I see Tootoo taking bad penalties or being out of position it is still obvious every night that he is going hard and giving his all.
The Mule I watched 4 weeks ago and before was definitely taking nights of ala Semin and Ovie as you mentioned above.
I have watched him coast up and down the ice on Offense and Defense, watched him get the puck in the zone only to loft what amounts to a saucer pass at the goalie.
When Zetta is struggling offensively at least you know he can still help shut down the other team's top line. A disinterested Mule is disinterested in all aspects of the game, ESPECIALLY HUSTLE!
Is he tremendously talented? Yes!
Does he take days/weeks off? Yes!
I just have a hard time comparing a guy like Cleary's inability to score 30 goals with Franzen's lack of desire/effort to score 30.
He is happy with the status quo, I get that, I just don't appreciate it!
You are entitled to you opinion, and I will not argue that, but when a thread pops up claiming he is a bargain, I feel like chiming in!
Franzen could lead the team in points and he'd still get s*** on. He's become the perennial whipping boy around here.
You must not have been on the board when Feds played. That name alone still creates fiery debate and many a suspension on this board!
These were the same arguments had then, except Feds had the whole defense thing on his side of the argument (and was immensely more talented even when loafing!).
When guys like Yzerman come to be the face of your organization, it becomes hard to accept players who don't give it their all because they are disinterested, not because they are hurt or have things going on in life.
Just simply due to interest.
I will admit it Yzerman spoiled me, like being the best team in the league for the past 15+ years (not each year, overall most successful org in recent history) has spoiled some Wings' fans.
I do not like part time players/ guys that only play for big games, but some have no problem with it and even admit that he has the talent to be a $7M + a year guy, but it is ok because he is only being paid to be half the player he could be!
I understand that everyone picks it up a level for big games, I played enough sports at a collegiate level(very bad and very small college) to know that everyone turns it up a notch come post season, even the very bad.
But Mule doesn't turn it up a notch, he simply turns it on.
Those of you who think playing like a 4 mil a year player is ok now because it is his cap hit, while he is actually getting paid 5.25 mil this year, will you still expect him to play like a 4 mil player at age 40?
If not, then please stop saying he is a bargain at 4 mil a year.
That is his cap hit, not what he is being paid nor what we should expect from him.
He has said it, his coach has said, he lacks motivation a lot of times.
I am not surprised he is playing very well right now, the Wings have been in playoff mode for weeks, roughly the length of his streak.
And the Franzen apologists will come out and say if we put the last few weeks of this season, and the last month or so of season X you will see he is a monster.
i will see that he is a floater and plays when and where he wants because you had to pick and choose segments of his seasons.
His defensive play as of late is all I need to see to know that he spent the better part of this season disinterested, he is now playing D up and down the ice, 3 weeks ago he wasn't defending anything.
When Franzen puts an effort in for a full season, not a couple of months here and a couple of months there, I will back off of him.
But he only plays in Mule mode when he thinks it best, I like that about as much as I like diving!
He scores around 28 goals a season, however most of that is done in about 2 months worth of effort and work, if he worked as hard the rest of the season as he is working right now he would be in talks for the Art Ross.
Instead he is Floater of the Year!
That is the sickening part, he could be a top flight player in this league. Instead he plays when he wants, at least the last guy that played like this in the Winged Wheel was quite possibly the best defensive forward to ever play the game.
The hand rules are ridiculous. Hands on the stick in the faceoff circle, fall down and touch the puck with your glove, 2 minutes no matter what the situation. Gross and arbitrary.
I'm sure by next week we'll be back to 1/3 of the game on PP or PK, and you're right, we're going to be pretty rusty. We definitely have a huge advantage 5-on-5 given our depth on the 3rd and 4th line (which Pavel envies ). How much of an advantage? We sit 2nd in the league behind only Chicago in 5-on-5 Goals for/against ratio. On the other side, both our PK and PP sit at 24th in the league.
How many face offs did Kris Draper win after sticks and bodies got tangled and he fell down and hand passed it.
Face offs are killing me right now, and have been for the past 4 or so years. It seems like the refs are using this time to put themselves on display.
JUST DROP THE F'iIN PUCK ALREADY!
No need to stand there for 10-15 seconds with everyone lined up waiting for some one to step into the circle or a player to move his stick to fast.