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#2530770 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by krsmith17 on 09 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

How do people not see how special this Jurco kid is going to be? He has a much higher ceiling than Tatar and I would possibly even consider trading Nyquist before Jurco. Kid is going to be unreal.

#2530765 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by kipwinger on 09 July 2014 - 10:26 AM

It's almost like they're negotiating.  Like, one side asks for something incredibly high.  And then the other side counters with something incredibly low.  And then they eventually work their way toward something palpable for each side.  Hmmm....

#2530738 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 09 July 2014 - 08:41 AM

We have $10million in cap space, yes we have the room to take the chance on him.

#2530701 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by brett on 08 July 2014 - 07:15 PM

if we have to give up a guy like tatar or nyquist let it be for a guy like yandle or bogo

#2530677 Mike Green to Wings?

Posted by DickieDunn on 08 July 2014 - 05:50 PM

I can't see the Caps wanting a D in return.  Capgeek has 8 D on their roster, plus any prospects who might be ready.  Andersson, a second tier prospect, and a mid pick could do it.  I don't think Green is worth much more than that.

#2530630 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by kipwinger on 08 July 2014 - 02:31 PM

Why O Why does everyone think that the starting point for every single trade on earth is a high end prospect or roster player with upside?  None of Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, or Mantha would go the other way in a trade for Green.  Good god, just look at every other deadline deal for guys who aren't superstars.  You ever see those kinds of roster players or prospects going the other way for a teams fourth defenseman?


Anaheim got ONE top prospect, a mid tier prospect, and a 1st for Bobby Ryan...and he was under (a very affordable) contract.  Mike Green will DEFINITELY not cost us more than that. 


Where do these relative values come from?

#2530611 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 08 July 2014 - 01:58 PM

I think it goes without saying that we can't give up Tatar, Nyquist or Mantha. But Jurco and picks seems reasonable considering how desperately we need a top D-man and a right handed shot. Get it done Kenny.

#2529367 Dont Jump Yet...

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 02 July 2014 - 09:58 AM



I am as pissed off as most Red Wings fans today out of our lack of ability to sign (any) big name free agents, and even more pissed off that our only substantial move was re-signing Kyle Quincey to a contract that pays him as much money as Jonathan Ericsson, more money than Johan Franzen and only 0.5 Million less than Nick Kronwall makes (still a top 10 defenceman in the league).


But as much as we can complain about Quincey, and predict that next season will be a complete disaster - I am seeing more and more tank for McDavid posts - I ask myself when did Matt Niskanen become worthy of a 7 year contract? Isn't Dan Boyle 37 years old coming off a 36 point season on a great team where he was a -8? Why did the world end when we didn't sign these two? Lets just try to use some perspective before we completely turn our backs...


Last season, in a 16 team conference - we finished 1 point behind 6th place PHI and 3 points behind 5th place NYR (who eventually played in the Stanley Cup Final) while having an historically bad (by our standards) record of 5-9 in the shootout. More importantly, we also had our top 3 forwards (when measured by salary) D, Z and Weiss miss 37, 37, and 56 games respectively. I hate to make excuses, but of the 6 teams in our conference that had more points than us last year, not a single one of them could relate to our injury situation (in terms of man games lost to star players). For ex. the top 6 scorers on the Boston Bruins all played in atleast 78 games, and 5 of them played in 80 or more - please don't tell me this would not have helped us or improved our position in the standings.


If we look ahead to next season - what do we have to be optimistic about? Well, we haven't really gotten worse since last year... No we haven't signed any big names either, but we still haven't lost anyone yet. (Alfie remains to be seen). Can you say the same about...


#1 BOSTON - Subtractions: Thornton, Iginla, Meszaros, Moore. Additions: None.

#2 PITTSBURGH - Subtractions: Jokinen, Vitale, Orpik, Glass, Engelland, Niskanen, Conner. Additions: Comeau, Ehrhoff.

#3 TAMPA BAY - Subtractions: Lindback, Aulie, Desjardins. Additions: Nabokov, Boyle, Blunden, Stralman.

#4 MONTREAL - Subtractions: Briere, Gorges, Vanek, Gionta, Blunden, Dubnyk. Additions: Parenteau, Gilbert, Malholtra.

#5 NEW YORK - Subtractions: Pouliot, Stralman, Richards, Boyle, Bickel. Additions: Hunwick, Glass, Kostka, D. Boyle.

#6 PHILADELPHIA - Subtractions: None. Additions: Jones.


The point here is that outside of Tampa Bay, the 5/6 teams that had more points than we did last season have not improved either - and to take it a step further, I certainly feel that Boston, Pittsburgh, Montreal, and the NYR have all regressed. In terms of teams within striking distance who have also improved, NJ and WSH certainly stand alone.


When you consider the possibility of a healthy team, the emergence and continued development of our younger players, the cap room and prospect pool we have to acquire pieces (which Holland MUST use at this point) and the lack of improved teams conference wide + number of teams in our division who have taken a step back (BOS, MTL, TOR, OTT,) I don't think the sky is falling as fast as it seems.

#2529512 Sami Salo a good option for wings?

Posted by arag on 02 July 2014 - 02:17 PM

Not much to loose. the way things unfolded for the Red Wings, Iam fine with Salo. I just don't want to watch Kindl play.

#2527469 UFA day looking up

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 30 June 2014 - 11:21 PM

Per the Red Wings official website





#2527419 UFA day looking up

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 09:25 PM


Of course I'm disappointed when the Wings don't get the exact players I want.  I'm convinced of my own good judgement in these matters lol.  But I'm fully capable of settling for others, provided they're not 92 years old and clearly declining. 


As for Malik...I loathe the guy.  He's the absolute definition of a company man.  I might put more stock in what he had to say if I hadn't spent the last 5 years reading him agree with every misstep Holland made, and then make excuses afterward as if Holland were a victim of fate and not a man who is clearly petrified by uncertainty.

Wasn't Malik's tweet... but a Malik follower.  Malik is an apologist through and through. He's fan that wants to be a "reporter" but ultimately is a re-poster/re-tweeter.  I go there for the facts and summaries, not for his opinion.

He finds no fault in Cleary.  That's enough for me to know that he can't be trusted.

#2527369 UFA day looking up

Posted by cusimano_brothers on 30 June 2014 - 07:44 PM


#2527303 UFA day looking up

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 30 June 2014 - 04:55 PM

i still have a feeling that Kenny has a trade up his sleeve  :withstupid:

#2525243 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 23 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

Hartnell and Umberger are basically the same player.  And both are incredibly valuable secondary players.  Good trade by the BJs considering Umberger wanted out.  They got good value for a guy who I'm sure they'd rather have kept. 


p.s. I still hate Hartnell...with a passion. 

#2524228 Eaves is OUT in Nashville

Posted by Jesusberg on 17 June 2014 - 12:21 PM

Eaves seems to be in that tough position where he's not physical enough to be a consistent 4th liner (including injuries), and not skilled enough to play on a 3rd line. He's got really high IQ on the PK, but he's had such terrible luck getting hurt. I wish the guy nothing but the best.