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#2257402 Yzerman asks Pavel Kubina to Provide list of teams

Posted by redwingfan19 on 16 February 2012 - 01:04 PM

And the Wings couldn't uses another big shot from the point on the PP?

Lidstorm - White


I think were good, we already have a pylon with a big shot for the PP but Babcock insists on having a forward play on the second PP unit.

#2234068 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by Heaten on 08 December 2011 - 03:47 AM

if he continues to play bad, i think that would be in the teams best interest later in the season. getting smith significant games this year especially with lidstrom still on the roster would be huge for his development as he could really hit the ground running next season as an experienced guy. and with how bad E looks at times, the short term trade off would be negligible which is why the long term benefits would be huge.

now i doubt it does happen. but to me it might be what should happen if things continue.

as wings fans its in our best interest for E to play better. so i have no reason to root against the guy. but we have to be realistic and see that he continues to not improve after several years in the league. his contract makes it so he cant just be the guy you dont notice. he now has to contribute in a positive way to earn his pay. i just dont see that happening on a regular basis.

Except Ericsson isn't continuing to play bad. In fact, he's been quite solid back there. He has his brain cramps like most dman have... but overall, he's been fine, and definitely not been the 'problem'.

Smith has shown glimpses of greatness, but as we watched in his last game(?) on the Red Wings is his ability to feed the other team free goals. Of course, I see him learning to make better decisions in the future, but right now, to Red Wings standards, he's not ready to crack the roster... yet. Let him play in GR and hone his game.

In every loss I can point to one player that made a stupid play that cost us a goal. From Zetterberg's giveaway in the Boston game (which we won in SO), to Howards softy in last night's game to the Blues, but to me, Ericsson is the least of the problems. This team, overall, isn't playing with the spark we saw in 2007, 08, and 09. Unless one can argue Lebda and Lilja were game changers, stop blaming Ericsson.

#2233959 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by Crymson on 07 December 2011 - 04:37 PM

Waive him. He has an NTC, not an NMC.

Sports psychology also seems like a good option; he has shown he has the tools and talent, but he's just completely discombobulated all the time.

#2233892 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 December 2011 - 11:54 AM

He is very expendable right now...damn that NTC he has...

#2257406 Zetterberg out vs. Predators, Tatar called up

Posted by softshoes on 16 February 2012 - 01:08 PM

Damn I was going to throw some money on the game tomorrow because I will be in vegas. I don't bet ever but I figured hey while in vegas I'll throw some money on my favorite team and just hope it works out. Second guessing it without Z.

Respect the streak, lay the bet. :thumbup:

#2257021 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by Nev on 15 February 2012 - 01:52 AM

Never forget the magic words - Contract. Year.

#2242247 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 06:48 PM

Now the question becomes, if he keeps playing like this and comes in around 55-60 points for the season...should we re-sign him and how much is $ is a reasonable contract?

No, we should NOT re-sign him. Either trade him or let him explore his UFA options. He no doubt will want way too much than he deserves, or what I want to see Holland pay.

#2241844 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by P. Marlowe on 05 January 2012 - 07:59 PM

Detroit Free Press

"I think Huds in particular has really come on," Babcock said. "It took him a month and a half, two months to really get going again, but he really seems to have confidence. He's working so much harder. I thought he was excellent in the defensive zone tonight and made lots of good plays and was real good, obviously, offensively."

#2241819 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by The Secret on 05 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

I'm glad he has picked things up and in turn upped his trade value. I hope he is used in a trade before Invisible Jiri Hudler takes to the ice in the play offs again.

#2254766 What Ken Holland should do at the deadline

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 10 February 2012 - 05:42 PM

Hudler: 54gp 17g 34pts 15:05 min/game 22.4%shooting 11 blks 33 hits 5'10" 186lbs $2,875,000 cap hit
Semin: 50gp 14g 33pts 16:45 min/game 13.5%shooting 12 blks 24 hits 6'2" 209lbs $6,700,000 cap hit

It speaks volumes about just how much is wrong with Semin right now that he's neck and neck with a midget getting 2nd/3rd line mins.

So is Semin scoring more than Hudler? No. Producing more in fewer mins? No. Shooting better? No. Hitting more? No. More talented? Yes. Signed next season? No.

Honestly it's arguable he'd even be more than a lateral move if we're comparing each player's output this season.

And Semin's playoff play? Yikes... 0g 2a in 7gp two years ago, 4g 2a in 9gp last year.

So basically you want to trade Hudler for a guy making more than anyone else on the Wings but producing less offence than Hudler. AND you want to throw tons of other s*** in the deal too like one of our top prospects (Tatar). From Washington's prespective they get guy who can produce as much as Semin in less ice time PLUS $3,825,000 in cap relief (noting that Washington has$0 in cap space right this season).

Holland would have to be a meth addict to make that trade.

Just outta curiosity, who wins these trades in your opinions? I hope you dont think were losing these trades...

And yeah, scrap Kindl in the final lineup.


#2254635 What Ken Holland should do at the deadline

Posted by kerism17 on 10 February 2012 - 11:54 AM


Jiri Hudler
Tomas Tatar
Fabian Brunnstrom
2012 2nd


Alexander Semin
2012 5th


Cory Emmerton
Joakim Andersson
Jakub Kindl
2012 3rd


Nikolai Kulemin
Jesse Blacker

Projected Line-Up

Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin
Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen
Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi
Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner )

Lidstrom / White
Kronwall / Stuart
Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl )


That is a scary lineup that can definitely push for the Stanley Cup.

Wait until the offseason (depending on what Lidstrom decides to do) to go after a big name UFA defenseman.

#2256956 2/14 GDT : Stars 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by wings1110 on 14 February 2012 - 10:15 PM

What an incredible fan base....what an incredible city, sports are everything to us, its whats got us through these times..

#2256987 2/14 GDT : Stars 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by GoWings1905 on 14 February 2012 - 11:27 PM

Very proud of this team. They earned it tonight with a strong effort. People can write off the record if they want, but the fact is the Red Wings just made history playing in the toughest division in hockey at a time when there has never been more parity in the league overall. Not to mention, all the wear and tear from travel they have endured since the start of December. The longest home win streak since the lockout was 14, so it's not like teams have even come close to approaching the Red Wings feat recently.

Awesome night -- one of those games you will never forget as a fan. This is special. :yahoo:

#2256186 Is Nicklas Lidstrom The Greatest Detroit Red Wing Of All Time?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2012 - 12:01 PM

Are you including Ray Bourque in his era? Not sure why you wouldn't since he was still playing for the first half of Lidstrom's career. So, if he's included in that era, there's no way I agree with Lidstrom being the best "by far."

There was a time that I had Bourque ahead of Lidstrom, probably not anymore, but I'd have to step back, a number of years after Lidstrom retires and reassess. Problem is that I'd never have the proper objectivity. What I can say for sure though is that even if I conclude Lidstrom is the better player, there's no way it would be by a wide margin.

Definitely not anymore.

The only reason Bourque is still in the discussion as to being ahead of Lidstrom is because he is a good Canadian boy who played a more physical game than Nick.

If Lids was canadian the only real discussion would be if he's 2nd or 3rd behind Harvey. Once he's retired a few years and people take a more objective look at all he accomplished in his career, there's really little question he deserves to be ahead of Bourque.

More on topic, I can't really say if he's the greatest Red Wing of all time. It's basically Lidstrom, Howe and Yzerman. You could make a strong case for any of them depending on what criteria you use.

#2256534 Rick Nash "available for the right team/price"

Posted by Red Crazy on 14 February 2012 - 02:04 PM

I think Holland needs to at the least see what it would cost. My guess is that Nash gave a list of teams that he would go to. If Detroit is on the list then we have a good chance. I would trade Franzen over Flip just because I think in the years to come Flip has more upside. Franzen is a great player but he is streaky and lazy at times. Rick Nash brings everything to the table that Franzen does but I think Nash is a better all around player. Nash has put up some great numbers in his career with no help. Franzen plays with the leagues best and his numbers are just o.k. I am a Mule fan and I would do this trade in a minute.

I don't even want to think of the Canucks, Hawks, or Blues getting him.