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#2241819 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by The Secret on 05 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

I'm glad he has picked things up and in turn upped his trade value. I hope he is used in a trade before Invisible Jiri Hudler takes to the ice in the play offs again.


#2254766 What Ken Holland should do at the deadline

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 10 February 2012 - 05:42 PM

Hudler: 54gp 17g 34pts 15:05 min/game 22.4%shooting 11 blks 33 hits 5'10" 186lbs $2,875,000 cap hit
Semin: 50gp 14g 33pts 16:45 min/game 13.5%shooting 12 blks 24 hits 6'2" 209lbs $6,700,000 cap hit

It speaks volumes about just how much is wrong with Semin right now that he's neck and neck with a midget getting 2nd/3rd line mins.

So is Semin scoring more than Hudler? No. Producing more in fewer mins? No. Shooting better? No. Hitting more? No. More talented? Yes. Signed next season? No.

Honestly it's arguable he'd even be more than a lateral move if we're comparing each player's output this season.

And Semin's playoff play? Yikes... 0g 2a in 7gp two years ago, 4g 2a in 9gp last year.

So basically you want to trade Hudler for a guy making more than anyone else on the Wings but producing less offence than Hudler. AND you want to throw tons of other s*** in the deal too like one of our top prospects (Tatar). From Washington's prespective they get guy who can produce as much as Semin in less ice time PLUS $3,825,000 in cap relief (noting that Washington has$0 in cap space right this season).

Holland would have to be a meth addict to make that trade.

Just outta curiosity, who wins these trades in your opinions? I hope you dont think were losing these trades...

And yeah, scrap Kindl in the final lineup.


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#2254635 What Ken Holland should do at the deadline

Posted by kerism17 on 10 February 2012 - 11:54 AM

To WSH:

Jiri Hudler
Tomas Tatar
Fabian Brunnstrom
2012 2nd

To DET:

Alexander Semin
2012 5th

To TOR:

Cory Emmerton
Joakim Andersson
Jakub Kindl
2012 3rd

To DET:

Nikolai Kulemin
Jesse Blacker

Projected Line-Up

Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin
Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen
Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi
Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner )

Lidstrom / White
Kronwall / Stuart
Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl )

Howard
MacDonald
Conklin

That is a scary lineup that can definitely push for the Stanley Cup.

Wait until the offseason (depending on what Lidstrom decides to do) to go after a big name UFA defenseman.


#2256956 2/14 GDT : Stars 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by wings1110 on 14 February 2012 - 10:15 PM

What an incredible fan base....what an incredible city, sports are everything to us, its whats got us through these times..


#2256987 2/14 GDT : Stars 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by GoWings1905 on 14 February 2012 - 11:27 PM

Very proud of this team. They earned it tonight with a strong effort. People can write off the record if they want, but the fact is the Red Wings just made history playing in the toughest division in hockey at a time when there has never been more parity in the league overall. Not to mention, all the wear and tear from travel they have endured since the start of December. The longest home win streak since the lockout was 14, so it's not like teams have even come close to approaching the Red Wings feat recently.

Awesome night -- one of those games you will never forget as a fan. This is special. :yahoo:


#2256186 Is Nicklas Lidstrom The Greatest Detroit Red Wing Of All Time?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2012 - 12:01 PM

Are you including Ray Bourque in his era? Not sure why you wouldn't since he was still playing for the first half of Lidstrom's career. So, if he's included in that era, there's no way I agree with Lidstrom being the best "by far."

There was a time that I had Bourque ahead of Lidstrom, probably not anymore, but I'd have to step back, a number of years after Lidstrom retires and reassess. Problem is that I'd never have the proper objectivity. What I can say for sure though is that even if I conclude Lidstrom is the better player, there's no way it would be by a wide margin.

Definitely not anymore.

The only reason Bourque is still in the discussion as to being ahead of Lidstrom is because he is a good Canadian boy who played a more physical game than Nick.

If Lids was canadian the only real discussion would be if he's 2nd or 3rd behind Harvey. Once he's retired a few years and people take a more objective look at all he accomplished in his career, there's really little question he deserves to be ahead of Bourque.


More on topic, I can't really say if he's the greatest Red Wing of all time. It's basically Lidstrom, Howe and Yzerman. You could make a strong case for any of them depending on what criteria you use.


#2256534 Rick Nash "available for the right team/price"

Posted by Red Crazy on 14 February 2012 - 02:04 PM

I think Holland needs to at the least see what it would cost. My guess is that Nash gave a list of teams that he would go to. If Detroit is on the list then we have a good chance. I would trade Franzen over Flip just because I think in the years to come Flip has more upside. Franzen is a great player but he is streaky and lazy at times. Rick Nash brings everything to the table that Franzen does but I think Nash is a better all around player. Nash has put up some great numbers in his career with no help. Franzen plays with the leagues best and his numbers are just o.k. I am a Mule fan and I would do this trade in a minute.

I don't even want to think of the Canucks, Hawks, or Blues getting him.


#2256456 Rick Nash "available for the right team/price"

Posted by Esquire on 14 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

I'd give Franzen and pick/prospect for him yesterday if I could.


To Wings:

$7.8 million dollar cap hit (Nash)

To Jackets:

$3.95 million dollar cap hit (Franzen) + highly rated prospect.

You've also not only just strengthened a team in your own conference, but in your own division as well as doubled your cap hit for half the players.


#2255472 Joey Mac

Posted by Datsyerberger on 12 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

Obviously, we don't want to ride him long term; he'll likely eventually have a bad game. But at this point, I think he's played well enough in his time up to prove he should be the backup for the rest of this year (and next year, too). I like Conkers but he just doesn't seem to have any gas left, and that worries me come playoff time. Personally, I think Joey could hold the fort during the tighter defensively playoffs if he had to for a few games. Not to mention he's busted his ass to prove he should be up here.

Is there anyone on here that really disagrees at this point?


#2255438 If we got Selanne..

Posted by redwings1914 on 12 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

I would never give up Hudler who is having a great year for a 41 year old guy on his last year most likely, if KH did this then he should be fired. All the Hudler haters need to face the fact that unless Happy goes crazy and demands 4-5 million a year then hes going to resign here unless hes packaged in a MAJOR trade at the deadline


#2255336 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 12 February 2012 - 12:25 AM

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#2241651 Red Wings - Maple Leafs 24/7...

Posted by VM1138 on 04 January 2012 - 07:58 PM

I would imagine Babcock is pushing hard NOT to have a 24/7. It doesn't fit his coaching style. I think the Wings would be "boring" compared to other teams. A bit more intense. Of course, there will be plenty of entertainment from Cleary and whatnot. I really think the series would shape up as a serious juggernaut (Wings) against the young, upstart Maple Leafs. Which could be compelling in itself.


#2254713 Funny Homer article

Posted by esteef on 10 February 2012 - 03:21 PM

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#2254546 Jeff Carter

Posted by Nevermind on 10 February 2012 - 03:18 AM

I still would not like Carter. I maintain that he would be a poor fit for the locker room. More, he will be difficult to trade if he does not pan out for two teams in a row.


Worse. Three teams in a row. ;)

I have to say again...Carter's not the type of player who would play with much grit or heart in the playoffs. Despite his immense talent, he's prone to taking nights off and becoming invisible when the game gets tougher.

At least Franzen shows up in the playoffs and doesn't have attitude problems.


#2254172 2/8 GDT: Oilers 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by ilmickeyli on 09 February 2012 - 09:44 AM

He made a tremendously dumb play that resulted in there being zero Wings outside of the offensive zone.

On the 5-on-3 he made several good plays - I was surprised.