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#2230977 Say Goodbye to the C, Z.

Posted by Motown4013 on 29 November 2011 - 09:07 PM

do you know datsyuk personally?

your posts about him are really creepy.

Actually she does. She has supported Dats and many other Red Wings at the Red Wings Training camp for 10+ years. He says hello when he sees her to note how supportive she and her family have been to him.

#2230511 Say Goodbye to the C, Z.

Posted by Motown4013 on 27 November 2011 - 11:47 PM

Assuming Nick retires this following summer, there are only three realistic choices for the next captain of this team: Datsyuk, Kronwall, and Zetterberg. All of whom dawn the A. It's reasonable to say Kronwall will not be the captain having just recently acquired the A. Not to mention going from the greatest two-way defenceman to ever play the game as your leader to Kronwall: isn't very inspiring (as underrated as he is). Which leaves us with one of two choices: Pasha or Zetta.

At this point Z is no captain. Apart from being invisible every game, the majority of the time when he does make a mistake it ends up in the back of our net. Take for example the Joe Thorton steal in the offensive zone against San Jose. Zetterberg is always praised for being hard on the puck and protecting it so well. Now keeping in mind that it was Joe Thorton, it was still very uncharacteristic of him. And that give away in front of Jimmy vs. Boston was just brutal. Also his lack of production offensively is disappointing. For those of you who don't know he's on pace for a forty-eight point season.

So we're left with Datsyuk. Not much can be said about him. He hits, steals, passes, scores, makes plays, breaks plays, P.K.s, power-plays and is the best two-way player to ever play the game. The only downside to Pavel is probably his slow starts to every season. Many of you seemed concerned with the way he speaks English, and that he wouldn't speak up in the locker room when needed. But can you really say he wouldn't? Do you really see Nick calling out anyone ? It's guys like Drapper who would say what the team needed to hear in and out of the locker room; Kronwall can definitely fill those shoes, and then some. And besides if worse comes to worse we can always get Zetterberg to give a speech/talk to the media: may as well make good use of that six million.

As of right now it is reasonable to think Pavel will be the next captain of the Wings. That being said, I hope Zetterberg can find his game again and be just as good as we know he is.

Are you F'n joking? Do you watch the games?
He's had a slow start and Z had a BRUTAL giveaway two games ago...but EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE ROSTER gives it away once in a while. How can you honestly write that he is invisible every game- six points in the last 4 games doesnt really seem like he isn't relevent, especially when you fail to mention that Datsyuk went through a very similar drought at the begining of the season. I love how posters will make these ridiculous statements about players of Zetterbergs caliber.
You may not think he should be the next Captian of this team so just say that- dont make stupid and ignorant suggestions that he's not visable or relevant. He's worth his paycheque...every penny.

#2230309 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by Motown4013 on 26 November 2011 - 11:05 PM

Am I the only one who thinks E hasn't been that bad? Sure he still makes some boneheaded plays but it looks like he is playing a much safer game out there and not taking as many risks. He is also stepping up the physical game as i've seen him step up for some big hits and has had a couple good ones recently. All he needs to do now is not stand around with his dick in his hand in front of the net and clear the crease better.

I think he has been solid. Everytime I look at Wisneiwski, who everone wanted here, I an F$#$#@! happy that we signed E!

#2230305 Say Goodbye to the C, Z.

Posted by Motown4013 on 26 November 2011 - 10:39 PM

So for those of you who watched the game; how did he do?

He IS the next captian...I cant see them giving it to anyone else!

#2228323 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Motown4013 on 21 November 2011 - 10:01 AM

ENOUGH. i don't care how good a hockey player is: you can't be a productive first line player with your wingers being Tomas Holmstrom and Dan Cleary. Both of those two.....BOTH OF THEM.....have been and will be products of their linemates. You can't have two of those types of players on the same line. Pav has been given mission impossible. GOD HELP HIM!!!

you forgot to mention that he never goes a shift without losing his balance (i guess) and falling to the ice.....or how he tries to get by a defender along the boards at least 5 times a game and never succeeds------->turnover.

This X 100000!!!

Crymson seems to have a man crush on Cleary, thinking he can score like OV and win the Selke too.... but I dont think its a coincidence that Pavel has been fantastic the last two games after being rid of the Cleary albatross around his neck.

#2226430 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Motown4013 on 17 November 2011 - 03:09 PM

Yeah, because he hasn't averaged 20 goals per year--in addition to excellent defensive play, hard work on every shift, and time on ice in every situation... including the last shift of the 2008 SCF--over the past four seasons.

There's such a thing as a player having a bad season. To compare Cleary to Brunnstrom is hilarious.

You are correct!!!!! Talking about Bruno and Cleary is hilarious because they are different players with different talents. Bruno is trying to get a shot and Clearly has already had his. I would suggest that Cleary is a perhaps a high second or third liner.... NOT an offensive juggernaut that should play on the same line as Pavel Datsyuk. We know that both Bruno and Nyqvist have a ton of potential...and if the other guys arent doing it, give a young guy with alot of potential offense a chance.

BTW, You constanly seem to have to critique every posters opinions that differs from yours....and that is fine...but I dont give two scoops of shat what Cleary did 3.5 years ago in the LAST shift of one game...Bruno paced for 60+ points in 2006...and I dont give a shat about that either. Cleary isnt doing his job and hasnt all season so step aside and give a young guy a chance...That is what I give a SHAT about!!!!!

#2226418 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Motown4013 on 17 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

I don't understand why Brunnstrom is so hyped when he wasn't even able to score in the AHL.

I dont understand why CLEARY is so hyped when he cant even score in the NHL ....on a line with Pavel no less

#2226414 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Motown4013 on 17 November 2011 - 01:56 PM

Does that mean I have to use that thread?

#2226410 Couldn't we just try?

Posted by Motown4013 on 17 November 2011 - 01:48 PM

Ok, I tend to avoid line change topics and threads because I always think the coaches get paid all of that money because they KNOW better. I gotta say, right now we are dismal! I have been a Wings for for 28 years and I havent seen or talented offensive guys and our PP struggle since the early 80's. I think a few guys need to sit and a few need some REAL chances- not brought up for 1 game and then seen as a disapointment if they dont score on the third line. If I was Babcock tonight, here is what i'd do to try and spark this team

Mule Pavs Hudler

Flip Z Bruno/ Nyqvist

Helm Cleary Eaves

Miller Emmerton Abby

With tonights game, I think I'd play Bruno because he is a bit stronger than Nyqvist. Gustaf is still a slight guy who is probably not used to what SJ can bring physically.
Pavel needs some linemates and although the Frazen Flip and Z line has been great..especially Mule and Flip, Pavel is never gonna work himself out of the funk with friggin Homer who cant skate and he has histically played well with Huds. Cleary sucks right now and he may be an asset on the thrid line.

The second line is interesting because Bruno is bigger than anyone thought he was BUT Zetty better be prepared to backcheck because he sometimes isnt hard enough on the puck. This that being said, I would love to see this line play a few games....

Our third line with Cleary really rivals any 3rd line in the league I think and the 4th line can do some damage as well!


#2216584 Season-Long Lines Thread

Posted by Motown4013 on 20 October 2011 - 09:02 PM

Hudler is a third line winger. Not a second line center.

Hudler is kickin' ass and taking names right now. He is playing the best hockey since we won the cup...so OF COURSE we should put him on the third line

#2216578 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by Motown4013 on 20 October 2011 - 08:45 PM

I like to think I'm usually pretty reluctant to criticize "controversial" players after just a few games, but Ericsson is my one exception. Having watched him since he's come up from the GRG, I just haven't seen him improve much, if at all, over the course of his NHL career. And I haven't seen anything in the first four games to suggest I'm going to have any different opinion about him this year.

I see the guy make stupid plays in every game, whether they're minor blips or major screw ups. Maybe he's out of position, maybe he gets caught on a bad pinch, maybe he makes a stupid turnover, or maybe he takes a bad angle toward the boards and as a result misses a chance to play the puck; but it's always something. I don't consider it good if I "don't notice Ericsson," because he's the only player on the roster for whom I haven't thought to myself "wow he made a good play there." Usually the best I can give him is "well, he managed not to screw that one up."

My prayer is that he has a stretch where he somehow "turns it on" and ups his trade value while some other team is hurting on D men. I'd really rather not be stuck with him on the Wings.

Well besides Lidstrom, is there a single D-Man that doesnt make at least one error every game??

#2209991 Red and White game

Posted by Motown4013 on 27 September 2011 - 02:43 PM

I'm heading to the Red and White game tomorrow at the Van Andel and I was wondering if anyone who's gone to one before knows if there's any opportunity to get signatures or meet the players? I was hoping to get a jersey signed.

Also, who thinks these teams are a little... unfair?

Yeah, Red has Hudler on it so of course they will crush the white team :ph34r:

#2207876 Hudler took UFC training in off-season

Posted by Motown4013 on 16 September 2011 - 10:14 AM

I seriously hope that Hudler gets 70 points and comes back here in his pink shorts and chokes out everyone that made fun of him!!

you go little Happy!!!!! :)

#2204562 Brunnström to try out for Wings

Posted by Motown4013 on 19 August 2011 - 11:28 PM

Meh I woulda rather seen Owen Nolan come and fill a Dallas Drake type role, cant hurt but doubt he get signed

Please tell me that is a joke...Brunnstrom has a future. Nolan has a future nursing home picked out.

#2201499 That's what he said

Posted by Motown4013 on 28 July 2011 - 06:33 PM

I was actually quite impressed about how articulate and honest he was. His perspective is unique