I actually can't believe we have gotten this far into a thread about the playoffs with someone not mentioning officiating. The officials completely call the playoffs with different glasses...sometimes to the point that it seems like its a different game. In the later rounds, Highsticking, slashing, boarding, roughing goes without a whistle about 90 percent of the time.
If a smaller, puck possession team is successful in the regular season, they have to play a different game to win in the playoffs which obviously plays into the opponents hand...especially if the team they are playing is a big physical team. Game 7- Boston and TB...and not a single pentalty called?? Bulls***! BTW, who does that favor?? The physical and strong ORIGINAL SIX team Boston who goes on to win the game and series.
Vancouver, a team I think is quite akin to the Wings on paper is literally hammmered off the puck, many times with force by a much bigger team and all that boarding, slashing and highsticking goes uncalled....it really does give Boston the advantage. I dont think they necessarily give teams more calls or less calls but I do know they call less stuff that if clearly a penalty. This does not favor the Wings in any way- it favors the sharks. SJ can seriously try to hurt the Wings and all of that crap isnt called. All the boarding and headhunting forces detroit to play a different game and allows SJ to be as "bullying" as they want to be. When detroit won the cup in 08, who did we play? Other puck possession teams including Pittsburg. Don't get me wrong, I think physical hockey but its not the same hockey as the regular season because its called to favor bigger, stronger and faster teams. It affects the outcome...bigtime.
I actually don't mind it- I think its a decent logo but in all honesty, it could look brilliant or terrible on a uniform. I want to see it on a jersey with all the patchwork before I decide. At first glance, i think it looks ok. Its certianly 100 percent better than the thrashers scary psycho bird they had!
It's a very neat thought that Doughty could be on this roster and it would make sense to try a get a solid replacment for Nick Now but is it possible?? If they were going to make a trade for Doughty here is what I'd like to see. Stuart, Hudler, and Filppula for Doughty. No Picks at all keep the draft picks out of the equasion. If it happens I'd be on board as long as it's a fair deal.
Actually I would do the complete opposite... I would LOAD this whole deal on picks. Hudler, Ericsson and the first round for the next 2 years. We are an elite team...give them as many "26th" picks they want...we like to find our talent 210th overall!!! Its different if you are the leafs or the Islanders...you may be looking at a top 5 pick, but LA wouldnt get a top 20 pick and we would land DD!
Just to put this in perspective.....The wings have lost ONE game in the Stanley Cup Playoffs....One game...in overtime- After all the crazy 7 game series, comebacks and breakdowns, we do NOT need to panic yet. Relax, enjoy...they will be fine!
I love Hockey Chick Banter...Its the best Hard to find a savvy female hockey fan to duel with...and you make some solid points but let me add some depth to this conversation. And you should go ahead and say it. Shout it from the rooftops. I'm saying nothing against Zetterberg who is an awesome player with great playoff stats for the past four years. No argument from me at all. Well seriously, how could ANYONE argue this. The guy is a machine in the playoffs...so that is a mute pointWell seriously, how could ANYONE argue this.
However, what I AM saying is that rolling out the same old tired cliches about "disappearing Joe" are not particularly valid right now. He had a great series against the Kings by anyone's standards. Anyone calling out Joe's play right now is showing laziness of thought and not paying attention to reality. Laziness of thought? Well, I will challenge that as well as my clear loss on reality, but numbers don't lie. What I see is that Thornton has FIVE points in six games, two of which went to OT. So, in 23 periods of hockey, his 5 points is, at the absolute best, an average number. Less points than Clowe...and tied with a rookie and Patty Marleau and Ian White...a third line D-Man, so he has not been "God like" here. Granted, he did score key goals at big times...but they guy gets PAID to about 8 million a year to perform at big times so I suppose I am confused about why this is a tremndous feat for him...its his job. THAT is the reality.
Let me tell you about this awesome player....he was a major league prospect and a high first-round draft pick, he had been the Captain of an Original 6 team, he averaged over a point per game in his career in the first 13 seasons, and his team was once the number one seed in the West only to lose a hearbreaking first round series to the lowly eighth seeded team. Everyone called him a choker 'cause he just couldn't get it done in the post-season and neither could the rest of his very talented team.
By the way, this player's name is Steve Yzerman. Just so you are aware, before Yzerman won his first Cup, he had very little supporting cast. Just to play devils advocate...Thorton is surrounded by talent ad naseaum. The Sharks have a loaded team and for years, Stevie had Shawn Burr and Yves racine. In 97/98, when Stevie won the cup, they built a team around him- Federov, Shanny ect...before that, it is ridiculus to compare. Actually, its ridiculous to talk about Yzerman and Thornton in the same breath...Lets be honest- Thornton is a talented guy, but he is no Yzerman.
Then in his 14th season in the league, when he was 32 years old, Stevie Y finally won the Cup and everyone stopped calling him a big fat choker. He was neevr a choker. Yzerman has the drive and heart unlike anyone in sports...now THAT is a laziness of mind comment if I have ever heard one. Joe Thornton is in his 14th NHL season and he will be 32 in July. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. But something for Wings fans to think about when the bandy the choker label around. I think Thornton is a great hockey player...I would imagine that, by now he is probably a better golfer, having a lot of experience on the links! Wings in 6
Yeah, you mean that guy who went 2G+3A=5P in 6 games (both of those goals being GWG -- and one of them the series clincher in OT), with a faceoff percentage of 64.2% while taking a majority of the faceoffs -- what a loser who totally disappeared, huh? I'd really hate to have a guy like Joe Thornton on my team.
I am not going to play this week...instead I am going to rally behind the people that have a chance for bragging rights on the weekend picks champ for this year. Good for you LGW'ers! Also, don't for get that I offered a signed Franzen puck to the winner so I just want to say good luck to everyone...this one may be going to overtime for a winner!Once the winner is announced, please PM me and I will get your address ect!
Cheers and thanks as well to Kook for doing this! Props to you
So...it all comes down to this, kiddies. Hanta yo!
Friday, April 8 Pittsburgh at NY Islanders Philadelphia at Buffalo Chicago at Detroit Florida at Tampa Bay Carolina at Atlanta Columbus at Nashville Minnesota at Edmonton Dallas at Colorado San Jose at Phoenix Los Angeles at Anaheim
Saturday, April 9 New Jersey at NY Rangers Ottawa at Boston Tampa Bay at Carolina NY Islanders at Philadelphia Montreal at Toronto Washington at Florida Buffalo at Columbus Nashville at St. Louis Vancouver at Calgary Anaheim at Los Angeles Phoenix at San Jose
Sunday, April 10 Detroit at Chicago Boston at New Jersey Edmonton at Colorado Pittsburgh at Atlanta Dallas at Minnesota
Since we have learned that Ozzie won't return and has suffered another set back, it occured to me that this doesn't frighten me as much as I thought. I would absolutely like to see Ozzie back for the playoffs because his veteran leadership- he has been to the show and won it all. In saying that, I have to give a ton of props to MacDonald. I know his stats are a bit lackluster but I think he has been very very solid for the Wings. This guy doesn't seem to have a panic button. He is ready to go in any situation and he has come up huge for us when needed. I am not just speaking of a few critial saves in the last game against the Pens but when I have watched him in previous games, I like his style of play...he is a much better goalie than I initially thought. Anyone else feel like jmac deserves some props? Also, could he be a starting goalie or a reliable 30 game back up at this point?
No I watched it... Yah, 3 out of the 4 goals were not his fault per say (the 3rd one he should have had) but we cannot afford to watch him let in 4 goals every game and have ppl say "But he had no chance". The job of a goalie is to MAKE SAVES to keep his team in the game, and you arent doing that if you let in 4 goals in as many games as he does. That is my ultimate point here... he has not been consistently fulfilling his job of being a goalkeeper
The TEAM has not been consistantly fulfilling his job of being winners. Jimmy was great tonight...everyone else looked slow, lazy and unmotivated. Say what you want about Jimmy this season but last night's loss was not on him!