I love Hockey Chick Banter...Its the best Hard to find a savvy female hockey fan to duel with...and you make some solid points but let me add some depth to this conversation.
And you should go ahead and say it. Shout it from the rooftops. I'm saying nothing against Zetterberg who is an awesome player with great playoff stats for the past four years. No argument from me at all. Well seriously, how could ANYONE argue this. The guy is a machine in the playoffs...so that is a mute pointWell seriously, how could ANYONE argue this.
However, what I AM saying is that rolling out the same old tired cliches about "disappearing Joe" are not particularly valid right now. He had a great series against the Kings by anyone's standards. Anyone calling out Joe's play right now is showing laziness of thought and not paying attention to reality. Laziness of thought? Well, I will challenge that as well as my clear loss on reality, but numbers don't lie. What I see is that Thornton has FIVE points in six games, two of which went to OT. So, in 23 periods of hockey, his 5 points is, at the absolute best, an average number. Less points than Clowe...and tied with a rookie and Patty Marleau and Ian White...a third line D-Man, so he has not been "God like" here. Granted, he did score key goals at big times...but they guy gets PAID to about 8 million a year to perform at big times so I suppose I am confused about why this is a tremndous feat for him...its his job. THAT is the reality.
Let me tell you about this awesome player....he was a major league prospect and a high first-round draft pick, he had been the Captain of an Original 6 team, he averaged over a point per game in his career in the first 13 seasons, and his team was once the number one seed in the West only to lose a hearbreaking first round series to the lowly eighth seeded team. Everyone called him a choker 'cause he just couldn't get it done in the post-season and neither could the rest of his very talented team.
By the way, this player's name is Steve Yzerman.
Just so you are aware, before Yzerman won his first Cup, he had very little supporting cast. Just to play devils advocate...Thorton is surrounded by talent ad naseaum. The Sharks have a loaded team and for years, Stevie had Shawn Burr and Yves racine. In 97/98, when Stevie won the cup, they built a team around him- Federov, Shanny ect...before that, it is ridiculus to compare. Actually, its ridiculous to talk about Yzerman and Thornton in the same breath...Lets be honest- Thornton is a talented guy, but he is no Yzerman.
Then in his 14th season in the league, when he was 32 years old, Stevie Y finally won the Cup and everyone stopped calling him a big fat choker. He was neevr a choker. Yzerman has the drive and heart unlike anyone in sports...now THAT is a laziness of mind comment if I have ever heard one.
Joe Thornton is in his 14th NHL season and he will be 32 in July. Coincidence? Yeah, probably. But something for Wings fans to think about when the bandy the choker label around. I think Thornton is a great hockey player...I would imagine that, by now he is probably a better golfer, having a lot of experience on the links!
Wings in 6
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