Motown4013

Hmmmm....when Lids gets back and Dats, the power play and penalty kill will turn around.....oh wait....

Holland = Fail to address needs....

How can you make every thread about what Holland didn't do at the deadline? It's constantly about not getting Gaustad OR how Holland failed us or how badly every player on this team sucks. Brutal

Sharing the sentiments about Cleary. How many goals have to go in with Cleary on the ice for Babcock to STOP playing some idiotic hunch that Number 11
Is gonna find his game in OT. f***  sakes
As for the game...Ty was great and I out we ayes well. That was the Zetterberg I know and love!

Emmerton's been here all season.  He was a often healthy scratch earlier in the season, but has taken on a regular role with all the injuries.

I think a big part of the Wings' problem is complacency.  The team rarely seems to play with any sense of urgency, and when they do, it's too little, too late.  Underperforming players are almost never scratched or benched unless they're fourth liners or sixth defensemen.  Franzen being demoted to the third line was, honestly, surprising.  When's the last time a regular player was traded away or not re-signed in free agency?  (Hossa was a cap issue, and I don't count Kopecky, he missed almost every playoff game.)  They know they'll be back next year, whether they meet expectations or not.  There is no fear of losing their jobs.
I heard an interesting quote on the radio around the trade deadline... basically it said the Wings overvalue their players and prospects, and undervalue players and prospects from other teams.  Kind of goes along with Wisniewski's quote from last summer that the Wings "don't pay market value".  Also explains why Holland didn't really improve the team last summer (despite the fact that he said the team "has to get better") or at the deadline this year.  Money is no excuse, he had PLENTY of room under the salary cap.
If there's an early exit from the playoffs this year, there NEEDS to be change.  Whether it's trading away a few regular players, firing Babcock (maybe the players are tuning him out?), or even Holland, something would need to be done.  But the loyalty begins at the very top, so as long as Mr. Ilitch is still in charge, I don't see much change on the horizon.

^^^^THIS times one hundred!

So we're judging "best" based on 10 game sample sizes now? Ooh, ooh, I can play that game too! Malkin's the best! No, wait, I mean Stamkos! Perry! Gagner!!!

10 games over 14 months doth not a best player make. Considering he's probably one hard hit away from the end of his career, the jury's most definitely still out on this one. And FWIW, Philly's neutralized him today.

Come on ....it's not 10 games....he has been the best or in the conversation since 2005. I don't like the kid- he is arrogant and a whiner but when healthy, he is the best player in the NHL. No need for a sample size on that.

That was a more skilled team & the rest of the western teams had not caught up to the new financial requirements & the teams in the west were chasing a finesse style of play.

The western teams are bigger now, we are less skilled & there is far more parody in the west.  Today, the sharks are 9 points above 500 & are not in the play offs.  It's not 08.

Yes, that must be why we broke a record with the most consecutive home wins EVER. Yes, we are doomed. The west is very talented and how many of those teams are big physical teams? Vancouver? St. Louis? No.

I understand that it's not 2008....but tell me how the 08 team was more skilled? As for the sharks, they aren't a 500 team because they are smaller- they are a 500 team because they are weaker in goal and don't have secondary scoring. I find it frustrating when people chalk up all of this teams woes to us not having a " big " team.
We are too old, too slow, too small...too many euros. That's what people have been saying about us since 97 while we were busy winning four cups

I have felt that the PK does a pretty good job (compared to the power play)
I think most guys will play hard to get it out of the zone and get it deep. My only complaint is that little finesse pass they sometimes do which always seems to lead to a loss of possession and a shot on our net. Get the puck and hammer it OUT of the zone. No need to get style points...just get it the f out!

You can say 13 and 5 but it wasn't clicking before they were injured.
I know we lead the league in points by D men, but often times I feel like guys go back to the point instead of taking it inside and roofing the shot. Perhaps it's become second nature to play catch with the blue line but I would like to see them keep it down low. Just a thought.

so kassian could go off on our team and try and intimidate us:(

Kassian was not even playing in the NHL full time when he was aquired. Its not like they just picked up Getzlaf of someone

I am pretty sure that this is the same team ( abeit Quincey) that just ran the table with a record setting 23 games at home. C'me on....this is a great team and the no one in this trade deadline got much better. We could have added some extra pieces but so could have a lot of teams.
We dont have the record that we do by being crappy

Great post by the OP. nobody is more frustrating to watch than the Mule this year. He has SO much talent and totally looks like he would like to be elsewhere. I was actually impressed when Babs  put him down on the third line because he deserves to be demoted. We need the Mule so I hope his ego got a slap from the Avs game and that gets a bee in his bonnet

I know a lot of ppl joke but I think this effects the D much more than people realize. Quincey still looks nervous and Kindl and Commie are streaky at best. E eats up a ton of minutes, plays the PK and has been solid for the team.  I know all the Ericsson haters will be thrilled but I think it will effect the team with the lines and chemistry....I think it's a loss
Heal up Big Rig

When I started the thread I was thinking someone midrange....but now I feel like we may be making a run at someone like Selanne, Carter, Nash, Ryan or Suter.I just have a feeling. Not sure what I would want to see coming back this way but just a hunch. At times we have dried up offensively this year...one of these big boys and WOW.....all the way! Anyways glad most of you are thing their is some potential for a significant move....I would really love to spend some of that extra cap money, stick it to SJ and win another cup!

PS looks like it's kindl in tonight....article in the free taking about Kindl always wanting to play against his childhood idol ( Jagr)
I really wanted Commie in for tonight...I think not using him in this game where physicality will play a big role is a mistake. Just my opinion!
Go wings!

Yeah, I love it!! You get pumped to watch

Anybody who thinks that Carter would not be a great addition(and give Detroit that much-needed right-handed sniper)probably needs to watch another sport. Hockey is not your game. Character/Attitude problems? Well, I guess LA should of traded Kobe Bryant years ago? I will admit, I like players with good character, but I also like to win...  and besides, the worse thing I heard about Carter is that he likes to chase teammate's wife's. If you have a faithful wife, you have nothing to worry about. Would I rather have a player like Bobby Ryan? Sure, but the price would be a lot steeper.

One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch. Get 'er done, Kenny!

Bobby Ryan would NOT command a lot steeper price than Carter. Carter is 6.2 next year, Bobby Ryan is 5.5..Unless Bobby Ryan gets a hatty in the next 30 games, rest assured, Carter's pricetag is bigger. As the saying goes, One bad apple does spoil the bunch and Carter is a selffish prima donna who is not a team guy. Detroit does not subscribe to the bullshart that Carter brings.
Maybe YOU need to watch another sport!