And all of those teams were fast, strong up the middle and played defense, not to mention they were very physical teams. And yes the will to do so can count for a lot, but what has shown you this team has the will to do anything but float on the perimeter and have their asses handed to them?
This Detroit team is none of those qualities, and this Detroit team doesn't have 1/10th the skill it had even last year.
All of those teams were better than this Red Wings team is now, and it's not even close.
Of the teams that upset the wings they didnt have a lot of success after that (Anaheim excluded but they remade their roster). So yes this wings team is better than those teams. And a good percentage of the roster have not played in the playoffs so we have no idea how they will play when it's do or die. I just don't understand why there are so many willing to write this team off so quick. I'm not saying they will make noise come playoff time but I'm saying give them a chance. I feel sorry for everyone that thinks the season is lost
That's great - name ONE thing this team does right consistently night in and night out. You won't find it.
This team is so wildly inconsistent, expecting 4 good games out of 7 is a near impossibility, and in the playoffs, just playing a "good" game isn't good enough to win. Right now if Detroit makes the playoffs, they will get jailsexed by the Blackhawks - a team with more talent, skill and speed, not to mention physicality, than the Red Wings.
There's a reason this team got smacked by the BJ's of all people this year.
How many times have we all watched as the wings ran through the regular season and then met a team like Edmonton, Calgary, or Anaheim who has talent to compete for the cup but were way to inconsistent during the season and it made them barley make the playoffs. They beat Detroit who was clearly the better team because they thought their skill was enough but the other teams wanted it more an had been in playoff mode for weeks before the playoffs started. WILL BEATS SKILL. That the most important thing to winning in the playoffs, you have to want it more than them.
I'm talking about style of playing and roster type. Not records.
Read what I wrote about it on the last page.
The wings have always been one of the hardest working teams, they haven't won any of the last 4 cups by being more physical than who they are playing, they have been grittier but not more physical, they have shown an ability to play tight defense, an Howard is good enough to play lights out for 2 months. The only thing stopping them from holding down the 4th or 5th seed is that they turn the puck over a lot, and that has to do with the the guys who are still leaning how to play at this level and learning how to play with each other.
Agreed. One time in the history of the NHL did an eighth seed win the Cup and now "anything can happen". No it can't.
The seeds that have made the conference finals since 2002:
2002: 1,2 3,4
2003: 6,7 1,2
2004: 2,6 1,3
2006: 6,8 2,4
2007: 1,2 1,4
2008: 1,5 2,6
2009: 2,4 4,6
2010: 1,2 7,8
2011: 1,2 3,5
2012: 3,8 1,6
A team that was seeded 5th or lower has made the conference finals 5 years in a row and 8 of the last 10 years so yes anything is possible. And it's even more true now considering no team is unbeatable and parity is in full force
I'm sure he means well, but damn, can anyone follow what he is talking about?
To comment on what he said at the end with hockey players being the most polite/non criminal athletes, how much of that has to do with a lot of football and basketball players growing up in broken homes?
I'm not sure how it would help the game any. Any close goals are already reviewed and if they were to challenge an offsides or icing it wouldn't really matter all that much. The only thing that would have an affect on the game is if they were able to challenge penalty calls, and I would imagine the officials would be very much against that since a percentage of those are opinion based anyways.
Why is this thread here? Does nobody realize the wings are only 4 points behind Nashville who are 4th in the west. I know they can't buy a win right now but if they go on a 4 or 5 game winning steak and a few teams go on a skid and the wings will be right back in the playoffs
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All due respect to Budd and his WWII heroism and decades of work in the organization, but there come a time when change is needed from the top to the bottom... Holmstrom retired today, the last of the dynasty, its time for a new beginning...but this organization refuses to change. That is why you will see the same old crap at the Joe and the same junky music and the same type of players....its over, the dynasty is over, let go. I am sure Budd wouldn't mind, nor his family. Time to stop talking about history and tradition, what did it get us last summer, no UFA's of significance, no players who mean anything want to come here anymore....Detroit has worn out its welcome in the NHL and yet they still keep going back to the same well....let it go....Hey dude, my grandfather was a war hero too, he is dead, I let him go, I don't go around playing tapes of him talking...life goes on..time to move on from Budd, Karen, Stanley the Octopus and Hey Hey Hockeytown...</p></blockquote>
You know what your absolutely right, while we're at it lets get rid of all the championship banners and un-retire everybody's numbers, especially the guys that played in the 50's cuz that was 2 dynasties ago and thats kind of embarrassing. And make sure we cancel the ceremony we are going to have for Lidstrom next year cuz it's all about the new era. Thanks for opening my mind.