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#2149130 Los Angeles vs. San Jose

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 14 April 2011 - 04:43 PM

Saw this quote on another site. The first game (hopefully) will be interesting.

MURRAY: We know its going to be a real revved-up series, a real hard series. Everything I read, from the San Jose players talking, its going to be a bit of a gong show, with fighting. Im reading about Clowes bloody nose and Ben Eager all over the place and Mayers fighting. So were going to gear ourselves up for that kind of a game. Well keep Westgarth in the lineup. Thats the way theyre setting it up, so were going to be ready to battle.




#2142254 Lines combos in the play-offs

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 05 April 2011 - 08:14 PM

One: Abby has barely played in the playoffs, and hasn't really been a factor when he has. A bit early to say he "elevates his play magnificently". Bert also not someone I'd think of as a clutch playoff performer.

Two: Top defensemen will be matched up against Pav and/or Hank as much as possible. Teams won't waste a top D-pair on a line centered by Abby. At least not on a team with so much other firepower.

Three: Abby, right now, can't score for s***. You can't expect him to produce at a top-6 level in the playoffs.

Four: Like every other 'phenomenal, unstoppable, can't-possibly-imagine-splitting-them-ever line' we've had in the past few years, they'll have one mediocre game and everyone will forget they ever even dreamt of keeping them intact.

Abby has 5 points in 21 playoff games- not bad for a fourth liner. Also, Abby has scored this season when put with skilled players. He was hot with Cleary and Modano, and he is now hot with Bert and Franzen.

Abby has what the team lacks- physical play.

Your example of top pairing not being used against Abby/Franzen/Bert is evidence for the line to stay together. If they will play against the third pairing d, than the line should definitely be successful.


#2142248 This years black aces

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 05 April 2011 - 07:54 PM

UK is the only one that'd like to see Tardiff. Who would want to see iFlip over someone?

Mursak, Joakim, Tatar, Smith, Meech and our goalies will most likely be black aces. Maybe even Nyquist :)

Tardif should be up, but I don't think he'll play (or should). He's been great (and patient) with the organization and should be a black ace to practice with the team and enjoy the atmosphere. This organization treats its players well, and Tardif has paid his dues.


#2141152 Coyotes or Thrashers to Winnipeg

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 03 April 2011 - 11:09 AM

Agree with both, especially Bettman. Also, I'd be in favor of dropping the league to 26 teams. The only players the league would lose would be the goons.

Edit: Again, great profile pic. I was listening to that album in the car tonight. I can't get enough of "Dead End Friends".

The goons wouldn't be gone. Most teams with 'enforcers' have better players in the minors. When you're fourth line plays ~5 min a night, that isn't a place for a player to develop. Further, the amount of skilled players on the bottom four team (financially) is low. Most likely, the 4th line players who don't fight would be the ones losing their careers in the NHL.


#2140976 Hmm something I noticed

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 02 April 2011 - 06:28 PM

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Also using Bert's scuffles as an argument that fighting helped win the game for the Wings probably isn't a good way to go considering it was Nashville who scored consecutive times after the two fights to eventually take a 3-0 lead.

Babcock and Cleary both said the fights ignited the team in their post-game interviews. Is that enough proof for you?


#2140884 4/2 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Predators 3 (OT)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 02 April 2011 - 05:01 PM

Why even fight? Now Nashville is going start s*** after the whistle. We need to play hockey, not box. Now we are out of our style ughh.

Babcock disagrees with you. In the post-game, he praised Bert for providing the spark the team needed.

Good try (to diss fighting) though.

EDIT- Cleary also disagrees with you.


#2137387 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 28 March 2011 - 07:36 PM

Take your blinders off,Bertuzzi elbowed him in the head,he deserved the 5 min and game.Im just glad i dont have to look at that floater for the rest of the game.

Watch the replay again. The point of contact was not the elbow.


#2137366 3/28 GDT: Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 28 March 2011 - 07:26 PM

Seriously Versus? Seriously? A chicken-s*** play?

The hit wasn't clean, but it's no worse than any hit that has caused suspension this year and many that haven't. Even some of the Hawks fans on HFBoards are questioning the call.


#2136484 3/26 GDT: Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 26 March 2011 - 08:44 PM

BERT!

And he's so cool, he just goes for the fist bump.


#2136469 3/26 GDT: Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 4

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 26 March 2011 - 08:42 PM

I hope E rag-dolls Lupul before this game is over.


#2136044 Youngsters ditching the visors

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 26 March 2011 - 07:58 AM

:ph34r:

To want extra equipment for yourself is fine, but to insinuate that players not wanting visors or other equipment are idiots is disrespectful IMO. If a hockey player added equipment for every injury they received, they'd be driving around in tanks on the ice.

Hockey is a dangerous sport- you will get hurt.


#2135881 Pavel Datsyuk optimistic he'd skate today

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 25 March 2011 - 12:11 PM

On the M-Live article, Dat's had a (typical) funny quote- I hope so I play a few games before the playoffs. I watched too much this season. I'm tired of watching TV. I want to be on TV.''


#2134096 3/21 GDT: Penguins 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 21 March 2011 - 09:05 PM

Dumb and Dumber showing who is in fact the dumbest (almost).


#2132796 Abdelkader

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 March 2011 - 01:25 PM

Lidstrom is a +1. Rafalski is a +14. What do you expect to learn from +/- by itself?

And hey, I would like the player who people around here anoint as one of the tougher players on the team to act like it.



This thread isn't about Eaves. Don't deflect. If Abdelkader is going to get praise for taking boxing lessons in the offseason, maybe he should do something with that skill. Also you don't have to be the enforcer to fight other players. When it comes to Abdelkader specifically, I would think he would try to give hell to the opposition if he was getting stepped on. He didn't do that last night.

Is plus/minus the definitive stat? Absolutely not, but it is a good measure for a third/fourth liner whose main objective is to play solid, defensive hockey.

Abby has always been a big hitter who will back up his play when challenged. He has 153 hits on the season, which is 29 more than the second biggest DRW hitter with only 64 gp. Because people on LGW have anointed him the toughest player doesn't mean he will be. I'd like to anoint Dats to be 100+ point player every year, but I'm not going to ***** when he doesn't score each game.

The bowing lessons have been taken so out of context on this forum. He stated that he wouldn't go looking for fights. If you ask Eaves (or anyone else on the team), I bet he would say the same thing.

Bringing up Eaves isn't deflecting. Abby has one more NHL fight than Eaves (equal if you don't include preseason). Abby is a hitter, and therefore I expect him to take hits and not fight afterward unless they are blatantly dirty. Eaves was repeatedly punched in the back of the head- I don't know about you, but I'd be more likely to fight after being punched than questionably hit.

Would I like to see Abby fight more? Absolutely. Do I expect Abby to fight more? Probably. Do I think Abby should be expected to fight while other players shouldn't? No. If you're going to expect Abby to fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't also expect E, Bert, or Eaves to fight.


#2132779 Abdelkader

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 March 2011 - 12:07 PM

Maybe if Abby could do something useful and valuable.

Jeez, he gets targeted in the head twice and doesn't seem to care. That was just ridiculous.

3 point in his last five games, and a +12 rating- what more do you want?

Are you thinking of Eaves or Abby? I saw Abby hit a few times, but Eaves was punched in the back of the head at least three times by Franson within one shift. I don't know why everyone on here rags on Abby for not fighting when Eaves, Miller, E, Bert, etc can all fight. Would I like to see Abby fight more? Yes, but Holland or Babcock has never anointed him the Wings' enforcer and he has never expressed an interest in being the Wings' enforcer. Therefore, don't expect it to happen.