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#2474573 Nucks vs Flames

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 20 January 2014 - 04:47 PM

 

It's in no way saying that.  Again, it ignores how obvious the intention was here with the 4th line out and Westgarth taking the opening faceoff. 

 

If you start your goons for the opening faceoff, have a goon winger take that faceoff, then your players simultaneously drop the gloves and make no play on the puck, the team and coach deserves to be punished.

 

It's not like there will be many cases where a 4th line legitimately starts a game and a line brawl accidentally breaks out.

 

Why do there need to be fines, or any punishment beyond penalties, after a line brawl? What happened in this game, where there were no instigator penalties, that warrants any supplemental discipline?




#2474311 Nucks vs Flames

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 19 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Hartley absolutely did. He put out that starting lineup and had Westgarth, a winger, take the opening faceoff. Everyone in the hockey world knew exactly what was going on. When you put those players out and an all out brawl ensues, the coach is responsible.

If the league is fine with the outcome, so be it. But if they don't like how that game and want to be seen as a legitimate sport then they absolutely need to punish Hartley for his actions. Everyone knew what was going to happen. This wasn't simply a coach starting his 4th line.

It's fitting that it happens the same night as the Wings goal off the netting. If the NHL wants to be taken seriously they need to address what is actually happening. Everyone knew the Wings goal shouldn't have counted, yet it did because of four incompetent officials and a bad review policy. Everyone knows what was going to happen when Hartley put out that lineup.

The league has all the legitimacy of professional wrestling tonight.

 

IMO nothing would make hockey less legitimate than not allowing certain players to start a game, or play against other players.

 

If Torts wanted to defuse the situation, he could have played the Sedins with Sestito. None of the Canucks were jumped in the line brawl, despite Westgarth having the chance to force Bieksa to fight. The refs also went overboard in giving four players from each team misconducts for secondary altercations, when two of the fights were simultaneous.




#2469564 1/1 Winter Classic 2014 GDT: Maple Leafs 3, Red Wings 2 (F/SO)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 01 January 2014 - 01:46 PM

Weak call IMO.




#2469257 Alumni Game Lineup / Leafs @ Wings Alumni NBCS and CBC 1pm

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 31 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

What a snipe.




#2468816 12/30 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Predators 6

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 30 December 2013 - 09:46 PM

Not much of a fight, but good on Abby for showing some intensity- the team needs more of that.


#2461228 12/4 GDT : Flyers 6 at Red Wings 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 05 December 2013 - 08:16 AM

Could have used some of this after the plays against Nyquist and Abby.

 




#2460924 12/4 GDT : Flyers 6 at Red Wings 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 04 December 2013 - 09:41 PM

Hopefully Abby is okay. Frustrating lack of response by the Wings after both incidents.


#2457736 11/24 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Sabres 1

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 24 November 2013 - 05:12 PM

LGW!


#2455490 11/19 GDT: Predators 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 19 November 2013 - 10:01 PM

I'm embarrassed after that.


#2455284 11/19 GDT: Predators 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 19 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

Crap, looks like broken collar bone :(.  I hope I'm wrong.

I had the same thought. Hope he's okay- collar bone injuries aren't fun (I've had many).


#2451712 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 07 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

LGW!




#2451353 Tootoo Waived

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 06 November 2013 - 01:07 PM

I really question Holland sometimes...why even re-sign Cleary, I mean really? Tootoo is way more important to this club than Cleary OR Sammy...

 

I agree. Why re-sign Cleary knowing something like this was going to happen?




#2450837 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 04 November 2013 - 08:26 PM

I like our 4th line!!!

Was a great shift by Tootoo and Helm.


#2450831 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 04 November 2013 - 08:23 PM

 
I'm inclined to agree.  I think a fight can set the tone, but fighting before the game even really starts doesn't do much other than get Tootoo to sit down for 5 minutes.  A good shift of him crashing and banging could've done a lot more to set the tone. 

Might be trying to inject some energy into the team at the end of a road trip.


#2449869 11/1 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Flames 3

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 01 November 2013 - 10:20 PM

 
We need another forward with a last name starting with T so we can form a TNT line, Tatar - Nyquist - ... Profit?

Tootoo.