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In Topic: Any Chance Tavares Replaces Crosby as the New NHL Poster Boy?

07 June 2009 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (Shoreline @ June 7, 2009 - 01:49PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's definitely some people who prefer a certain brand of hockey that have become disillusioned with it in it's current (or I guess you can also say evolving) state. What's also ironic is they also tend to be in areas that prominently involve hockey, as in, Canada, Great Lakes States, New England, etc. I think many people (particularly in my area) forget that the NHL is it's own brand of hockey entertainment, not the very definition of hockey itself. Similarly, I like baseball and basketball, but despise both the NBA and MLB and what they've done to both respective games on an entertainment level, and thus don't watch it at all. Hockey to the NHL is like a banana to a banana split.

After last nights game, I wonder if this is the brand Bettman had in mind? I do not care for Bettman but contrary to popular belief, the man is no dummy. I would find hard to believe he wants the new face of the NHL running around taking cheap shots. Is that style of hockey entertaining. Hmmm? Could Sean Avery could be the face of the NHL? He is certainly entertaining! Maybe to all of the WWE fans who do not understand the game. I guess for me that is were disillusionment comes from. I just now question Bettman's choice. Should just one player be the lone face of the NHL?

In Topic: Any Chance Tavares Replaces Crosby as the New NHL Poster Boy?

07 June 2009 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (Shoreline @ June 7, 2009 - 11:23AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something to understand about marketing is it isn't exactly the most fair thing. It's about selling something. That's all. Do you really think of 300 million people in the US Barack Obama was the best Presidential candidate? f*** no. He was the most highly marketed and sold his brand very well. People bought into it. They do the same thing for certain ballot measures one votes on, they do it on products that's sold. An added boost to marketing over the last decade or two have replaced quality control, in essence. That's the way of the product (cereal, hockey, blabla) or a brand (Crosby, Obama, Kobe, etc.).

Nonetheless, it's stupid to doubt Crosby's accomplishments as not amongst the most elite in the NHL today. In all likelihood he's going to have 500 points at age 22, he's been to the Cup Finals twice by age 21 (still up in the air if he's going to win one this season), as the Captain of a team, several ASG's, and his impact is well documented..

There's really no ambiguity, unless one is a fellow Wings fan in denial.

Maybe not a wings fan in denial but it is possible that I am fan of the game who is in denial. I just want to see all the brands that are offered. Not just one. I have been a fan of the game for so long now that it hard for me to think from the perspective of the casual fan. The fact that Crosby can draw new fans to the game is not lost to me.

In Topic: Any Chance Tavares Replaces Crosby as the New NHL Poster Boy?

07 June 2009 - 10:06 AM

Seriously? Crosby is better than Ovechkin or say? A healthy Marion Gaborik. While I think that Crosby is a great Hockey player, his Media Hype seems to be greater. What ever happened to accomplishments? Even the greats like Wayne and Stevie Y had to prove themselves.

In Topic: MVP - Ozzie or Hank

07 June 2009 - 09:56 AM


In Topic: Thoughts from the Penguin's Nest

07 June 2009 - 09:52 AM

QUOTE (Architeuthis @ June 6, 2009 - 06:24PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys actually think a rusty Datsyuk, broken foot and all will actually be able to keep up with Malkin or Crosby! You gotta be freakin kidding me. He'll be lucky to play 10 minutes before Orpik destroys him and the pain shot wears off. The emotional boost the Wings get will be huge none the less. If the Pens survive the the first period they will roll.

The answer to your question is yes! The only thing I saw that that Penguins excelled at last night was over confidence. Datsyuk showed everybody on National TV why he is arguably the best player in the NHL. He is the NHL's benchmark for what complete two way player should be. On an off note: Dats and Malkin and Ovechkin on a line together would be something to see.