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#2184298 Wojtek Wolski

Posted by stevkrause on 10 June 2011 - 08:12 AM

I'll pass. When a player is too lazy to even make it on the Rangers, there's usually a bigger problem there.

He has tons of talent, but unless he comes REAL cheap, there are better options, including the ones already on our team. I would rather him than Hudler, though. But not necessarily at that price.

Rangers seem to be buying a lot of players out by the rumors. Who is next?

Look what he's had to deal with and the crap teams he's been on... as I said in my original post, all the kid needs is some consistency and leadership around him and I think the Red Wings organization is exactly that... I think the kid would explode here...

Also, I question how much you've watched him play if you think he's lazy... if anything, his scoring consistency is the only thing in question, never his effort...

#2184096 Changes in the offseason

Posted by eva unit zero on 09 June 2011 - 01:06 PM

Remember how astonishingly awful the Hudler-Modano-Cleary third line was? I'm not sure a Hudler-Drury-Cleary line would be any kind of improvement.

The problems with the Hudler/Modano/Cleary line were as follows:

1) All three players had terrible starts to the season; the fact they were all on a line together only magnified this.

2) The Hudler/Modano combination working was extremely unlikely. Modano's offensive style was to take the puck on a rush and get off a quick shot, and possibly a second shot, which didn't work while with Hudler's average speed. Hudler worked best on long-term puck possession in the zone setting up a high-quality shot, which is something that didn't work well with Modano's tendency to take a shot whenever he had a clear line. Cleary, meanwhile, was having serious trouble handling the puck (I think he may have been injured) and this led to complete ineffectiveness from that line. Hudler and Cleary were very effective together when together with any other center. Drury is much more similar to the team's current centers in offensive style than Modano, so the chances of that line working well would be much greater. Especially with Hudler and Cleary likely to have better starts to their seasons.

#2184038 Changes in the offseason

Posted by Crymson on 09 June 2011 - 11:13 AM


Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Kris Draper ($0.800m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.100m) / Chris Drury ($1.100m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.000m)
James Wisniewski ($4.500m) / Joni Pitkanen ($5.000m)
Doug Janik ($0.512m)

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood ($0.800m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,171,211; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,028,789

I find it unlikely that, given the free agent pool, Drury will be bought out with only one year left on his deal.

I earnestly hope you do not actually want Joni Pitkanen at $5m per year. He's not worth it.

#2183753 Latest Rumor: NHL Team Expected to Announce Rebranding in 2012

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 08 June 2011 - 04:26 PM

Florida Panthers

#2183213 NHL local ratings for game 1-Nashiville tied for 7th

Posted by MulesWillFly93 on 07 June 2011 - 06:14 AM

Yayyy San Diego for coming in 13th! No, seriously, we never get excited about anything around here, so that's pretty good for us. We did better than a certain city east of us which has a hockey team and a higher population, too, ahem. (Gosh darn it, can't we even get a minor league team up in here?!)

#2183430 10/11 Hockeyfights.com awards voting...

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 07 June 2011 - 06:53 PM

I'll never understand you folk that don't get the idea that the Wings could use a guy who'll drop the gloves with some regularity during the season. One guy taking a penalty here and there while giving the opposing team something to think about when it comes to taking liberties with our players certainly isn't going to cost us in the win column. AND HELL, I'm not even talking about a guy that JUST fights.

Hell, I'll even throw this little nugget out there for you to ponder over.

Seguin is healthy scratched last night in favor of Thorton. Sure, he might not be on the scorers sheet in the way of points... but I tell you what... his presence was felt and it certainly helped spark some team-mates and get some opposing players off their game.

I think a lot of it is because some of the posters on here only watch the Wings. While this is fine, I don't see how someone can make a valid argument for or against an enforcer if they don't watch the other 29 teams in the league outside of their games with the Wings.

#2183362 Thoughts on Joni Pitkanen

Posted by blueadams on 07 June 2011 - 03:40 PM

Please, just stop "talking".

Did someone put a gun to your head and force you to click my thread...to read through my thread...and to respond to my thread?



#2183273 Thoughts on Joni Pitkanen

Posted by blueadams on 07 June 2011 - 11:28 AM

Why did you post such a broken "description" of Pitkanen?

Just stop talking to me dude.

#2183031 Thoughts on Joni Pitkanen

Posted by Red Wings Addict on 06 June 2011 - 05:58 PM

Why did you post such a broken "description" of Pitkanen?

It's blueadams, man. Shoot first, ask questions later.

#2183364 Let's summarize...

Posted by esteef on 07 June 2011 - 03:46 PM

We need 3 more Datsyuks.


#2183306 Let's summarize...

Posted by Travis on 07 June 2011 - 01:02 PM

replace the much aged and often broken Rafalski, and get stronger and deeper up front by adding the much aged and often broken Selanne and Jovanovski? Am I missing something?

Yeah, I don't know what's up with all the Selanne and Jovanovski love. I understand that they are both talented players, but both are in the twilight of their careers - I really don't think that's the direction the Wings should be going in. They've got a real opportunity to add some youth to the roster. I understand the free agent class is thin, but I'd really hate to see them get older.

#2183234 Let's summarize...

Posted by stevkrause on 07 June 2011 - 08:53 AM

blueadams, is that you?

#2183205 Let's summarize...

Posted by Nevermind on 07 June 2011 - 04:39 AM

Kindl and Smith on the 3rd pair is a nightmare actually.

We're not throwing an offer sheet to Weber. And we're not spending that kind of money on a forward (Richards).

And if it's a dream, why would you trade Filppula instead of Hudler?

#2183203 Let's summarize...

Posted by Berry on 07 June 2011 - 04:17 AM

So let's summarize a little bit what we said during these gloomy weeks...

In order to have a stanley cup potential, the wings need:

- a 2nd line center/winger who can score and handle the puck well (Richard'd be perfect)

- a 25 minutes solid Dman (Weber is a dream...), 2 if Lids retires

- Eaves, Drapes (min salary) back and a solid 3rd line Dman (similar to Salei)

- trade flip or hudler

- keep Joey Mac

The lines would be:


Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Brad Richards ($7.000m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.750m)

Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Shea Weber ($7.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,767,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $432,956

Isn't it a dream team??? Up to you guys....

#2183287 Aaron Rome

Posted by jollymania on 07 June 2011 - 12:02 PM

It was less than a second late, it was a clean hit, and even if you want it to be interference, they should still fine horton for not having a f***'s clue of where he was on the ice.