robb himself

And if they don't, he'll only have his tens and tens of millions of dollars for succor.

yeah that is true, but is hardly the point...

sad news.  I really hope his head aches go away and hes able to continue his career.

as per Josh Rimer of XM,  @joshrimerhockey

I actually have a weird feeling that Hudler is going to have a good year this year with 25 goals and 50+ points...but thats just me.

Helm is a no brainer to bring back.

Hopefully Abdelkader can get his game going this year.

Wouldnt mind having Bertuzzi back on a year to year basis.

Not sure about Holmstrom yet.  

Kronwall is a must.

Hopefully Stuart will be back as well.

I have a feeling that Lidstrom and Holmstrom may retire together. (definately if they win the Cup)

I'm stoked that Conklin came back.  I think he is a far better goalie than people give him credit for.  His numbers in the '09 season were outstanding for a guy who had to take over the starting job for a bit, while Osgood got his s*** together.

Welcome back Conks!

Lets get this season underway!

Datsyuk to break the 100 point mark...

No injuries...

Tatar...

boom.

I guess I'll just need to resign myself to you not liking me.

Have a nice day!

its not that I dont like you...im sure you are a cool guy, its just sooo hard to get passed your arrogance.  I just wish you would respect other peoples opinions.

You agree that I "think I know everything and I don't" when I quoted Cleary's own words on the matter? Interesting.

As for my speculation, predicting how any player will do on any team is just that: speculation. However, some speculation has enough evidence behind it to allow for an accurate prediction. The evidence in this event apparently provided every GM in the league with the means to make the prediction that Zherdev would not do well on their team, as when he was put on waivers, not a single one wanted him despite his low salary and the imminent end of his contract.

If you're going to declare that all speculation is equally invalid, then, for example, you'd better be willing to annul an enormous number of rulings made in every court in this nation by every judge and jury. In the absence of indisputable facts that prove guilt or innocence--which by no means happens in every trial--the ruling of the judge or jury is based on speculation drawn from the available evidence. Likewise, the decisions that GMs make on whom they choose to sign--i.e., whom they feel would be a good fit for the team--and whom they choose not to sign is based in significant part (with the other factors being cost, available cap space, considerations on the future, etc. etc.) on speculation on said players, drawn from their own evidence they've gathered on said players. Also likewise, any post made by any member of these forums on whether or not any player would be a good fit for the team is speculation. Why you think that the fact anyone's opinion is speculative makes it invalid is unclear to me.

nope, I agree with him that you are an insufferable, ignorant know-it-all...and your arrogance is laughable.

We just cant take anything you say seriously.

LOL Crymson you are such a f*ckin clown... you think you know everything about everything and you definitely don't... I think it's pretty sad actually... you state every one of your opinions as fact, just because you say something doesn't make it true...

Let me tell ya somethin, your statement above is purely speculation just like everything else you are saying about Zherdev. However, what I said about Cleary and all the problems he had before he came to Detroit, and how he credits Chelios and a couple other guys on the team to turning his life around is fact. I live a half hour from his parents place (where he grew up) and my cousin is good buddies with him, grew up with him, through school, right through minor hockey, and still trains with him every summer. I've met Cleary several times and no, he didn't personally tell me all his personal sh!t but he's after telling my cousin many times, so what you're trying to say about him changing before he joined the team and it having nothing to do with the team is way off base. Stop trying to act like you know everything, and unless you have the facts shut the f*ck up...

Oh, and as for Zherdev not working out on this team... it is once again pure speculation... I'm not saying he would definitely work out play alongside Pav and Hank but I don't see the harm in signing a guy with his talent and potential to a one year contract at under $2mil...

I agree with you dude...100%

If we flip enough average players and prospects at a team, they'll surely give us one of their best.

They just might if they realize he is not going to sign with them.  You are talking like they have him under contract which is not the case.

I meant Smith, I was talking with my brother at the same time about Merzack and typed his  name instead of Smiths. My apologies.

Im only happy about White in that we have a right handed shot.

Hear me out why Im upset about some of these signings.  We are assured to lose Nick next year and as such we need a veteran to lead the defense (Nick does that and some ).  Once he is gone who could you look to on the D for that after hes gone?

Second is that we needed to bolster our size, Ericcson may be physically large but hes proven that hes unwilling to use it.  Commie is a step in the right direction but Ericcson wasnt the answer to that issue.  

Third we need blue line scorers.  We have none after Nick is gone.  We shall see if White can run the point as effectively as Raffy did, I know Pylon sure as hell wont.  

We need two-three guys that embody two of these three traits: Speed, Strength, Leadership. Nick and Raffy held on to the first and last of those traits, Kronner the first two.  E doesnt embody any, Stewie the last two.  Kindl the first two.

I dunno about White and Commie till I see them in our system.  We need some leaders to reassemble a core that is retiring and picking up guys cause theyre cheap isnt gonna get us where we need to go. Its a stopgap method of just getting by till later.

My other issue is that Holland still has 16m in cap space, who the hell is he trying to pick up by penny pinching on our defense???  If Huds and Flip are gonna get moved we better be getting someone that meets or exceeds Dats skills for that kind of space to be left open.

you mean Mursak?

rights traded to buffalo...I doubt he signs there either.  He wants to go to free agency.

RFA = Offer sheet =/= something Holland will ever do = Yandle NOT BEING A WING IN THIS OFFSEASON.

Capiche?

no need to be a ******...it was only an idea...and check your grammar next time...

Yes, and then we could offer up our next four first round draft picks in the process. No thanks.

No, he won't be pissed off if we don't get Doughty, because it will mean the team hasn't mortgaged its future for a D-man who suffered a major concussion last season.

Doughty is the type of player that doesn't become available very often and considering the state that our defence is in at the moment, I would take the gamble on him in a heartbeat...
He will be a perennial Norris finalist with Weber for years to come...
Its funny how you talk down on everyone as if you are the only one who has the right opinion about everything on these boards...
You need to be less negative about everything...

trade Hudler for whatever we can get and let Jagr take his spot.  But if we do not sign Jagr, sign someone like Jussi Jokinen.

I think Jagr on Datsyuk's wing would be crazy.

I would take Wolski on the Wings in a HEARTBEAT.  As long as it was around the 2 mil range.