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#2373015 Wings Make Offer to Danny D!

Posted by newfy on 24 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

I think I read he'll be signing Wednesday but cant remmeber where I saw that now. It doesnt make me that nervous that hes taking some time to decide, his agency would make sure he does his due dilligence before making the biggest decision hes made in his life. I would say hes 90% Detroit right now, the fact that hes offered top 4 minutes in Detriot and PP time should seal the deal. The fact that in the past the wings didnt have room to make this kind of offer would worry me but now they can

#2358299 Jordin Tootoo

Posted by newfy on 20 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

Tootoo isnt a fourth line enforcer, hes a fourth line energy player that can swing momentum with a hit or a fight. He plays 9 minutes a night which is completely normal for a fourth liner. Its 30 seconds less than Emmerton and Eaves. Hes produced offensively just as well as any other bottom 6 player on the team while being more physical than any of them, he fills a role. I guess we'll really disagree on fighting than because as a guy who has watched teammates get cheapshotted, seeing the guy get beat down afterwards helps bring a team together. Kind of like when the 97 team cited that brawl as their defining moment.


As for the fighters/hitters list... I think its funny how you act like a know it all, say youll teach me some basic physics because I'm so wrong and you cant even put a list of 5 guys together. And the reason you wont is because you obviously know f all about the subject and are just spouting off about nothing. Tootoos played so well this year in his role he got some shifts with Zetterberg last night for his effort hes given every shift. So dont get in a point by point subjective argument, whats that saying? Its better to stay quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it... I think it applies here

#2354237 Howard = Average

Posted by newfy on 11 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Goalies in my opinion that are without a doubt better than Howard:


Jonnathon Quick

Tuukka Rask

Carey Price

Marc Andre Fleury

Tomas Vokoun

Jaroslav Halak

Pekka Rinne

Henrik Lundqvist

Roberto Luongo

Ryan Miller

Martin Brodeur

Cam Ward


That's 12 goalies, putting Howard 13th at best which is by definition, average.  Middle of the pack.  Again this is my opinion but that's where I'm coming from. 



Thats a pretty terrible list. MAF is not better than Howard, or did you miss the playoffs last year? Fleury has one season as a starter with a save percentage higher than .915. Howards worst season of his 3 (by far worst) is about equal to Fleury's career average.


Vokoun is a back up, if he was a top 10 goalie he wouldnt be signed dirt cheap and as a back up. Raask hasnt played a season as a starter yet, I think he's very good but hes also playing in front of a stud defense. Halak is more of a system goalie as well. He put up one good season in Montreal where Price was getting the hard starts and taking a tonne of critisism. Last year Halaks back up set the single season recrod for save percentage, its Hitchcocks system.


Some of those guys are a pretty big stretch to put a head of Howard and even still hes right on the cusp of top 10. I think hes lower in the top 10 but definitely top 10 none the less

#2340767 TooToo - the lovable little Tasmanian Devil

Posted by newfy on 16 January 2013 - 07:10 PM

The people saying Tootoo is just a cheap shot artist and isnt tough are out to lunch. The guy is 5'8, consistently takes on much bigger guys, rarely loses fights and Chris Neil is probably hte only forward that hits harder. He adds a tonne of speed to the line up and has cleaned up his game a lot for those of you who are worried about the "class" of the wings. But he draws more penalties then he takes and can take on most fighters in the league while chipping 30 points?


Whine some more about the wings signing one of the tougher pound for pound fighters in the league that can actually play hockey

#2332780 CHL, Other Junior Leagues Look to Ban Fighting

Posted by newfy on 26 October 2012 - 02:21 PM

Question for all those who grew up in the North American hockey system - at what age do kids start fighting?

Follow-up question: How do parents reconcile the message of "don't use violence to solve your problems" with "except when you're playing hockey"? Especially in a very liberal country such as Canada?

Refs will generally break up any fights right away until bantam rep hockey which is about 14 years old. At that point depending on the size of the kids they can stay out. So basically once you become a teen you can choose to fight in Canada however if one guy starts beating on someone else that doesnt want to refs will jump in right away.

And I actually think hockeys attitude towards fighting makes the country less violent. Kids will shake hands after a fight and theres a bunch of stories about the respect fighters have for each other and grabing a beer together after a game. I've shaken hands with plenty of guys after I fought them in hockey and Lacrosse

#2332057 Jordin Tootoo & Polar Bears

Posted by newfy on 18 October 2012 - 10:50 AM

I'm dropping it - I have strong opinions about celebrating the hunting of endangered animals (even if it's necessary/tradition for certain archaic ways of life), and obviously have strong negative opinions of Tootoo as a hockey player. The purpose of the post was twofold. I suspect more people will share my hockey views on him the first time he takes a selfish minor in a close game, while scoring a lower goal total than Ian White. Not trolling here, thanks for the spirited discussion.

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When he takes a dumb minor (which is rare, he actually dras 2 penalties for every one he takes http://behindthenet....0&team=NSH&pos= ) we can all go hug a tree with you and cry about it together.

#2331415 Jordin Tootoo & Polar Bears

Posted by newfy on 12 October 2012 - 01:40 PM


Sick the wings have a huge hitting, tough forward who can scrap with almost anyone in the league. He also kills the largest bear on earth and enjoys it.

Go join green peace

#2329851 The NHL's 50 Greatest Non-North American Players

Posted by newfy on 24 September 2012 - 09:19 AM

Hasek has more of an argument for number 1 than anyoen could make for him all the way down at 5. The top 3 should be Lidstrom, Hasek Jagr without question..

#2327594 Russia/Canada Revisit the Summit Series

Posted by newfy on 03 September 2012 - 09:49 AM

If politics mattered so much, maybe Canada should have declared war on the Soviets................oh wait

I understand it was a tense series. Hell, it was probably the most tense series in hockey history. But the Soviets only started doing dirty s*** when the Canadians did it first. They came into the series just wanting to play a clean game, and weren't used to the rough stuff. I don't think the Soviets knew how to respond properly to that type of hockey, so they did crazy stuff after whistles, instead of dropping the gloves.

At the same time, I don't think the Soviets ever sent a player out there to deliberately injure someone. It was a pathetic move by Clarke and the coach.

Thats just not true, I dont mind saying Canada played dirty but I hate when people play innocent Russian card like this. Canada came out playing hard, physical hockey, but not terribly dirty. The Russians responded with dirty play because they didnt know how to answer it. How can you act like that was the worst thing of the series when Mikhailov kicked Bergman twice until he was bleeding?

Canada played it dirty but the Soviets werent a bunch of cupcakes

#2327538 Russia/Canada Revisit the Summit Series

Posted by newfy on 02 September 2012 - 10:26 AM

I've always hated Bobby Clarke, mostly because of "The Slash"

I realize the competition was heated and was the most important series in hockey history, but that was plain bulls***. If I played on team Russia, I would have pulled a Marty McSorley on him in retaliation.

Or if you played on Russia you could kick someone, oh wait that already did happen. I dont like when people act like the soviets were innocent little europeans and Bobby Clarke had to juust break one of their ankles to win. That slash was an answer to all the dirty s*** the Canadians were putting up with at the time and all the other crap the Russians did. Officiating to the point that a player almost slashes a ref across the head, telling the Canadians none of their wives can come because there isnt any room in the hotels.

A dirty play got answered by dirty play, especially in that series which was more about politics then hockey

#2327537 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by newfy on 02 September 2012 - 10:20 AM

Come on...really? You like that?
What he did there was dirty...and that's a perfect example of why Tootoo is a POS. After the clean hit by Tootoo, Reaves skated over to him and gave him a shoulder or whatever, probably trying to get him to fight...or at the very least get in his face. But right after the shoulder, Tootoo sucker punched Reaves when he wasn't even facing him and Reaves still had his gloves on and both hands on his stick.
Had Tootoo squared up like a man and fought like fighters are supposed to do, Reaves likely would have destroyed him. He's much bigger and a much better fighter. So, it's no surprise that Tootoo threw the sucker punch, otherwise he gets pummeled.

I actually laughed when Detroit signed Tootoo. Blues fans, along with most NHL fans, can't stand Tootoo. So it will just make the games that much more fun because you know sooner or later Tootoo is going to do something stupid/cheap/dirty to cause a ruckus and more message board fodder....assuming there is a season that is. :lol:

Was kinda dirty but Reaves will learn. If you want to make it in a league as a tough scrapper type and youre only 5'8 you learn to do things to keep guys off your back. You make a clean hit and a guy challenges you for it when hes twice your size why should you stand there and let him go to town on your face?

Definitely a dirty playre who has cleaned up his act quite a bit, but its perfect to combat the blues dirty play. I'm hoping its Jackman and Backes that get it first

#2322133 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by newfy on 26 July 2012 - 01:50 PM

wings havent had energy in a while, even in those blowout type games they never looked mad when they were losing. With Smith and Tootoo in the lineup we can hope for some fireworks after the whistles and guys getting ran to try and wake the team up

#2319634 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by newfy on 17 July 2012 - 09:18 PM

I hope our penalty kill is good though.

Between him and Bertuzzi we'll have tons of reputation calls.

Only thing I'm not looking forward to with Tootoo well assuming suspensions aren't going to be an issue.

For his style of play and repuation, his PIM numbers are fairly small actually. A good number of those 92 PIMs last year are from fighting and you have to think a lot from roughing as well with another going to the box. Plus when he pisses off the other team he draws a lot of penalties as well.

Of course youre going to get some penalties from this type of player, but when youre getting one of the hardest hitting forwards and one of the toughest pound for pound fighters, that small amount of penalties he takes is worth it in my eyes the next game when he has guys looking over their shoulders and hurrying with the puck

#2319264 Ryan Sproul

Posted by newfy on 15 July 2012 - 11:33 AM

The wings defensive prospect pool is really exciting to me for the first time in a few years. Smith is a stud but the other guys are pretty good as well

Jensen comes out of nowhere as a late round pick and is doing very solid in college. Hes big, fast, can hit and is a very offensive type of guy. Hes come a long way for such alate pick

Sproul is also big, fast, can hit and is very good offensively. He has sky high potential but is still somewhat raw. If he keeps developing the way he is, he could be a stud on the PP in the future

Ouellet is much more polished then Sproul but doesnt have as high of potential I wuoldnt say. Looks like a pretty sure bet to be an NHLer because he does a bit of everything. Plays well defensively, puts up some points, can play very good positionally, occasionally fights and throws a big hit. Hes a swiss army knife type

On top of all that, the wings finally have the nastiness on the blue line coming up that theyve lacked a bit. All these top guys have a bit of a mean streak but guys like Nicastro, Nedomlel, and Mckee all bring a legit mean streak to the game. If one or 2 of these guys work out, no one will be coming near Howard in the future

#2316956 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by newfy on 08 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

I would like him a lot more at 1.3.
What do you think of him at 1.9? Coz that's what he got and the title of this thread

Youre that hung up on 600,000 when the wings still need to take on a bunch of salary to even make the cap floor?