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In Topic: Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

10 July 2014 - 04:36 PM

Wow, I really can't even wrap my head around this... Even when Cleary wasn't injured he was a healthy scratch. Hate to say it but this move really makes Ken Holland look clueless. And I've been one of Kenny's biggest defenders. What could he possibly be thinking? Waste of money, and more importantly waste of a roster spot. Unreal.

In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

08 July 2014 - 02:23 PM

Again, you wouldn't give up Tatar but you would be completely okay with giving up Jurco in a trade such as this?...


Neither would be going the other way in this trade anyway... I would expect a mid level roster player or mid level prospect and a draft pick.

Def wouldn't want to give up Jurco. But if it had to be either Jurco or Tatar, I'd have to go with Jurco. Jurco is much more unproven than Tatar at this point.


And yet you're more than willing to give up Jurco (a more valuable player)....... :shocking:

How is Jurco a more valuable player?? Because he's bigger? He has a much smaller sample size of NHL games. Tatar has showed that he for sure belongs in this league. Jurco has looked solid but def hasn't been as impressive as Tatar.

In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

08 July 2014 - 02:17 PM

Agreed. No way am I giving up Jurco over Tatar. As much as I like Tatar, the Wings are pretty set with undersized forwards. Jurco is going to be a better player than Tatar before long. Of course, that's probably the appeal to other GM's when evaluating potential trade pieces.

 Tatar has completely outplayed Jurco up to this point. Sure he's not a big guy, but go tell Marty St. Louis he's too small to be an impact player. Jurco has been okay but not overly impressive by any means. Not that he won't improve and get better. But at this point in time Tatar has brought much more to the table than Jurco.

In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

08 July 2014 - 02:12 PM


I don't think Tatar is anywhere close to being an untouchable...


He's a valuable player but not that valuable.

:shocking: For an injury prone defenseman on the last year of his contract?? Umm...yeah, Tatar is very much untouchable in this scenario IMO. Now if we were looking to trade for Shea Weber that would be a different story. But for Mike Green, Kenny would be a fool to give up a player like Tatar who has been so good and still hasn't hit his full potential in this league.

In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

08 July 2014 - 01:58 PM

I think it goes without saying that we can't give up Tatar, Nyquist or Mantha. But Jurco and picks seems reasonable considering how desperately we need a top D-man and a right handed shot. Get it done Kenny.