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Holland also is hesitant to bring up Nyquist unless he plays on a top-two line.  http://www.mlive.com...discover_s.html

 

So it appears Holland feels the same way as a lot of you guys.  It looks like he will probably be playing in the top 6.  I think he will help, and having Filpula back will be huge as well.  

 

As for sending down Tatar... so what?  He played good up here when given the chance.  He proved that he is a solid offensive guy.  But the way the roster works, they have to send him down.  It makes complete sense when you think about it.  Why would they cut an extra forward to make room for a guy who can be retained in GR when new injuries are bound to happen?

 

LOL @ Babcock and Holland.

f*** you guys, seriously. I hope they are both fired before the next season starts. Incompetent fools.

Just because they sent down Tatar? Seriously? haha, talk about an overreaction.

You just saved me a lot of time in May and June, thanks!

 

Seriously, though. I don't think they have what it takes, either. When I watch a lot of other teams, they are faster, work harder, and just have the desire that our boys don't seem to have.

You forgot other teams also have less injuries.  And I completely disagree that our boys don't have the desire to win.  IMO, the reason we have been winning is because the teams work ethic and desire.

 

The parity in the NHL is ridiculous.  I kind of look at it like this: There are 3 tiers of teams.  The top tier is small, including Chicago, Anaheim, Vancouver, Boston, Pittsburgh maybe.  THen you have tier 2 which includes most other teams in the playoff chase, including the Red Wings.  The final tier has the teams like Edmonton, Columbus, NYI, etc.

 

The point is, do you think the Wings could beat Chicago or Anaheim in a 7 game series?  IMO, yes, because the teams in tier 1 aren't all that different from the teams in tier 2.  Anaheim wasn't even that good last year and this year they are tearing it up.  When you look at the big picture, teams really aren't that far apart when it comes to talent, especially in the top 2 tiers.  Carolina will probably be a top seed in the East this year.  Do you think the Wings could beat them in a 7 game series?  I watch them play sometimes and they aren't all that impressive.  LA was a tier 2 team last year and managed to win the cup.  I am not convinced that this team can't win the cup when healthy.  I think they have the ability to do it, and I think one more piece would push us closer to the top of tier 2.  I also realize that every other team in Tier 1 and Tier 2 have the same chance and ability to win it as well.  

 

I just think people are panicking because we aren't the same dominant team we have been in the past.  But the league has been changing dramatically, even since 2009 and 2010.  Teams are a lot close together in terms of talent and depth. You have to get hot at the right time, get good luck with injuries, and anything can happen. 

I don't like this line either, but we are winning games.  I think Babcock wants defense to win games until we get Filpula, Samuelson, and Helm back.  Offensively, it isn't great, but they don't give up goals either.

Like I said, just rumors. The part about "other GM's know about datsyuk going home" Is the real scary part.

Actual Quote:  “They know that’s a possibility,” said one NHL executive.  

 

An NHL executive is different from a GM, and it is one guy's opinion.  Larry Murphy said on a broadcast this year that he believes Datsyuk will stay another 4 years.  I would think he would no more than one random executive.  To me, that sounds like an opinion from a guy with no inside information and was asked to speculate.  But who knows.

I may be in the minority here but I havent been all that impressed with Andersson. For having a big body, he doesnt use it alot. What does he bring to the tabe for this team? I know he is young but he certainly hasnt dazzled. I would prefer Eaves in the line-up

 

I agree.  The thing that stick out the most to me is he is slow.  On the fourth line, we need speed and forchecking.  His faceoffs are great, but I don't think that makes up for has lack of physicality and speed. 

Ya the team that was easily eliminated in the 1st round and then lost the 2nd  best defender of all time while making no major splashes in the FA market, except the addition of Damien Brunner and Jordin Tootoo,  is better than pretty much the exact same lineup that won the Stanley Cup and finished with a worse regular season record than the wings last year before getting hot at the right time, like all Cup champs. The Kings then outshoot Detroit 47-31 on the road, but shots on goal don't equate to wins, where as goals, which the wings had more of today, do equate to wins. Am I really and idiot or do I just purposely say idiotic things.  

Fixed for you.  

So Holland knows what he's doing?

It almost seems like Tatar got better playing in Grand Rapids, and is now more NHL ready then before?  No, that would mean Holland knows what he is doing.

I think you just contradicted yourself if you agree that he didn't do much last night.

 

Considering he was playing with a couple of guys who will generate no offense, I think Tatar looked pretty good last night. Skated hard/fast, backchecked, forechecked. Showed some very simple glimpses of being able to create if he is given a little bit of space and time.

 

But again, you could only see so much with who he was playing with....

No, I didn't.  I guess I meant he didn't do anything to produce points.  But I thought he brought an element to the game that this team needs right now.

We're in a lot of trouble if we can barely compete with teams like Columbus and Dallas

Come on man.  You act like these teams aren't competitive.  If anything, the games so far this season has shown every team is competitive.  No game is easy, for any team.  (except for that first game for St. Louis).

Solid signing, given the situation.  People here will hate Holland no matter what.  THe guy is top 3 GM in hockey, and he proves it year in and year out.  We will be competitive this year.

What if Kenny trades Flip, Nyquist and a 1st for Yandle.  Then signs Doan and Semin...


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FORWARDS
Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Keith Yandle ($5.250m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
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Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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That would be a bad trade.  If Flip and Nyquist are going anywhere it will be fore Bobby Ryan.  Yandle isn't worth that.

I don't understand how people can say Semin and Doan wouldn't help...  Last year, the wings were a top 10 offense.  Holland has already upgraded the offense  by adding Samuelsson, TooToo, and Brunner.  Basically, a bigger version of last years already good team.  If we were able to add Semin, it would add another dimension to the offense.  In my opinion it is a no brainer, especially if we get him a  relatively good cap hit.  Doan would take it to another level, potentially giving us the best offense in the League.  Parise isn't worth his contract, and Semin is equally as good, if not better.  Offensively, we can still be a juggernaut if we get Semin or Semin and Doan.

Obviously, the big question is on Defense.

I actually think we played pretty well for the last two periods.  We carried the play and got a lot of scoring opportunities.  They got some lucky bounces.  Thats just the way it goes sometimes.  I guarantee if we play like that again, we will win more times than not.

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