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#2381377 Nyquist thoughts

Posted by cupforwings on 06 April 2013 - 02:37 PM

^ I don't think he's being misused. Sure he's spent most of the year in GR, but it hasn't hurt his development or the organization.

Think about it. Has Nyquist look like a poorly developed prospect? Also, he's dominated the AHL and is a big reason why GR have done so well this year, and now he's here helping the big club. Double win IMO.

Seems like they've actually done well with bringing Goose along.

This is me being positive and optimistic. But whatevs.

That would imply Holland and Babcock know what they are doing, but thats impossible.... or is it?

#2380728 NHL.com names babs "top NHL coach"

Posted by cupforwings on 05 April 2013 - 11:24 AM

I laughed when I saw this because of all the people whining and complaining about him being a bad coach here and on Hfboards (which is worse then here).  People take him for grated here.

#2379090 An interesting point about our apparent deadline strategy

Posted by cupforwings on 03 April 2013 - 12:28 AM

If anyone here believes Twitter, Dave Waddell and George Malik, do yourself a favor and sleep through the rest of today and all of Wednesday.


I saw a very interesting comment on one of Malik's blog posts today.  Not only that, but I totally agree with it.


From PaulInMiamiBeach:

I’m so sick of this “you can’t fix it all at once, so don’t fix any of it at all” attitude.  That is a recipe for failure.


He hit it right on the head for me.


Not only that, but I believe it was kipwinger who shared pretty much the same sentiment.  Doing nothing makes us just as worse as making a bad deal does.  This team is full of bad deals.  Cleary, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, Quincey, Colaiacovo, Gustavsson, the list goes on.  If we emerge from this trade deadline the same team, this team is going nowhere.  Not even to the playoffs.  Nowhere.  But, we already knew that, didn't we?


This season wasn't always a "rebuilding/transitional" year.  Off the topic, but transitioning to what?  Mediocrity?  Becoming an awful team for several decades?  What's the end result?  It honestly frightens me to think about it.  Anyways, this season only became such when the team failed to do much of anything in free agency.  At that point, management cut off their own collective manhood, threw their hands in the air, and gave up.  At least, that's the way I see it.


Also, I'd like to address some ridiculous and false optimism.  People cite the lowering of the cap next season and say how many great players will be available because of cap-compliance buyouts.


Sorry, but that's the biggest crock on Earth.


Do people really think that quality players will be bought out?


That's hilarious.  No one is going to buy out key pieces, people.  Certainly not a top-6 scoring forward who can consistently score goals.  That's the reality of it.  People think all these players are going to fall right into our lap.


Not only that, but wasn't that the mantra last summer?  See how that turned out.


So, by all means Kenny, do nothing.  I just hope your prepared for another firestorm from everyone around you afterwards.  I would've thought you'd be sick of that already.


Our prospects aren't nearly as good as everyone seems to think.  I've seen Tatar and Nyquist...and I'm not impressed.  They've fallen victim to scouting.  Teams know them, and I'd say that's about it for them.  Our farm system is almost entirely boom-or-bust.  See the dramatic peaks and valleys of a lot of their past performances.  Jarnkrok and Pulkinnen, especially.


So, I guess tomorrow's a waste of time.  Great.  It'll be fun watching this team spiral out of control and crash in a flaming heap outside the playoff window.

:shout: Geeze dude, pull it together.  We are in the playoff race right now with a team who has been severely injured this year.  This whining is getting out of control.  

I just want them to do something.  But, they won't.  I can guarantee this team misses the playoffs without an addition or two.


That makes NO sense.  How can you guarantee this? We have been in the top 8 of the western conference for a majority of the season.  What makes you so sure we are just going to bomb our way out of the playoffs?  It seems more like you are being a baby about not making a trade.  I'm all for a trade if it makes the team better.  But I get the feeling there are not a lot of those out there, especially this year.  We will more likely then not make the playoffs.

#2378423 Trade Ian White

Posted by cupforwings on 01 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Trade White

Trade Coliacovo

Trade Quincey


No interest in keeping any of those 3.

Colo looked really good tonight.  I don't think it would be smart trading away all three of those guys.  I could see getting rid of White though.

#2373785 Wings Make Offer to Danny D!

Posted by cupforwings on 25 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

It would be great BUT. I don't see Babcock putting a rookie with no professional hockey experience in immediately.  I just can't believe that he would.  If Danny wants to play in the NHL immediately, he will pick a team that will be willing to do that and sorry, but that probably isn't the Wings.  In fact, I can't imagine that any team will commit to playing him immediately unless they have nothing to lose - no hope for the playoffs.  


Danny has a toough decision to make.  The AHL for a good team or the NHL for a crappy team.

He will step into the wings lineup if he signs.  That's just the reality of the wings situation this year.  We need young Defenseman, and are willing to take a low risk, high reward chance on this guy.  Babcock has talked to him, Holland has talked to him, and they need a big Dmen who can play.  This guy fits the mold, he has played college hockey, and will, at the very least, have the opportunity to play on this team this year.  He will have to earn more ice time, but the opportunity is on the table. 


So its play in the NHL on a good team, or play in the NHL on a bad team.  I think he choses option A.

#2370837 Helm: "Minor Setback", still out indefinitely, *merged*

Posted by cupforwings on 18 March 2013 - 06:03 PM

I hate thinking this but he may be a chronically injured player....it just seems like he cannot get and stay healthy.  I don't like it....I don't like it at all...


Deadline deal could be looming if our "getting Helm back" doesn't turn out to be our deadline deal after all....

To be fair, he has been a healthy player.  He has hit a streak of bad luck with three unrelated industry.  Now if he is injured for the next two years, then you can call him chronically injured.

#2368012 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by cupforwings on 12 March 2013 - 12:31 PM

Holland also is hesitant to bring up Nyquist unless he plays on a top-two line.  http://www.mlive.com...discover_s.html


So it appears Holland feels the same way as a lot of you guys.  It looks like he will probably be playing in the top 6.  I think he will help, and having Filpula back will be huge as well.  


As for sending down Tatar... so what?  He played good up here when given the chance.  He proved that he is a solid offensive guy.  But the way the roster works, they have to send him down.  It makes complete sense when you think about it.  Why would they cut an extra forward to make room for a guy who can be retained in GR when new injuries are bound to happen?


LOL @ Babcock and Holland.

f*** you guys, seriously. I hope they are both fired before the next season starts. Incompetent fools.

Just because they sent down Tatar? Seriously? haha, talk about an overreaction.

#2366159 wings arent winning the cup

Posted by cupforwings on 07 March 2013 - 05:04 PM

You just saved me a lot of time in May and June, thanks!


Seriously, though. I don't think they have what it takes, either. When I watch a lot of other teams, they are faster, work harder, and just have the desire that our boys don't seem to have.

You forgot other teams also have less injuries.  And I completely disagree that our boys don't have the desire to win.  IMO, the reason we have been winning is because the teams work ethic and desire.


The parity in the NHL is ridiculous.  I kind of look at it like this: There are 3 tiers of teams.  The top tier is small, including Chicago, Anaheim, Vancouver, Boston, Pittsburgh maybe.  THen you have tier 2 which includes most other teams in the playoff chase, including the Red Wings.  The final tier has the teams like Edmonton, Columbus, NYI, etc.


The point is, do you think the Wings could beat Chicago or Anaheim in a 7 game series?  IMO, yes, because the teams in tier 1 aren't all that different from the teams in tier 2.  Anaheim wasn't even that good last year and this year they are tearing it up.  When you look at the big picture, teams really aren't that far apart when it comes to talent, especially in the top 2 tiers.  Carolina will probably be a top seed in the East this year.  Do you think the Wings could beat them in a 7 game series?  I watch them play sometimes and they aren't all that impressive.  LA was a tier 2 team last year and managed to win the cup.  I am not convinced that this team can't win the cup when healthy.  I think they have the ability to do it, and I think one more piece would push us closer to the top of tier 2.  I also realize that every other team in Tier 1 and Tier 2 have the same chance and ability to win it as well.  


I just think people are panicking because we aren't the same dominant team we have been in the past.  But the league has been changing dramatically, even since 2009 and 2010.  Teams are a lot close together in terms of talent and depth. You have to get hot at the right time, get good luck with injuries, and anything can happen. 

#2365786 Datsyuk - Cleary - Abdelkader

Posted by cupforwings on 06 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

I don't like this line either, but we are winning games.  I think Babcock wants defense to win games until we get Filpula, Samuelson, and Helm back.  Offensively, it isn't great, but they don't give up goals either.

#2364803 This should scare us all......

Posted by cupforwings on 04 March 2013 - 07:17 PM

Like I said, just rumors. The part about "other GM's know about datsyuk going home" Is the real scary part.

Actual Quote:  “They know that’s a possibility,” said one NHL executive.  


An NHL executive is different from a GM, and it is one guy's opinion.  Larry Murphy said on a broadcast this year that he believes Datsyuk will stay another 4 years.  I would think he would no more than one random executive.  To me, that sounds like an opinion from a guy with no inside information and was asked to speculate.  But who knows.

#2354272 Joakim Andersson Recalled

Posted by cupforwings on 11 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

I may be in the minority here but I havent been all that impressed with Andersson. For having a big body, he doesnt use it alot. What does he bring to the tabe for this team? I know he is young but he certainly hasnt dazzled. I would prefer Eaves in the line-up


I agree.  The thing that stick out the most to me is he is slow.  On the fourth line, we need speed and forchecking.  His faceoffs are great, but I don't think that makes up for has lack of physicality and speed. 

#2354111 Howard = Average

Posted by cupforwings on 10 February 2013 - 09:05 PM

Ya the team that was easily eliminated in the 1st round and then lost the 2nd  best defender of all time while making no major splashes in the FA market, except the addition of Damien Brunner and Jordin Tootoo,  is better than pretty much the exact same lineup that won the Stanley Cup and finished with a worse regular season record than the wings last year before getting hot at the right time, like all Cup champs. The Kings then outshoot Detroit 47-31 on the road, but shots on goal don't equate to wins, where as goals, which the wings had more of today, do equate to wins. Am I really and idiot or do I just purposely say idiotic things.  

Fixed for you.  

#2353506 Ericsson

Posted by cupforwings on 10 February 2013 - 02:11 AM

So Holland knows what he's doing?

#2352940 Tomas Tatar Is Jiri Hudler 2.0

Posted by cupforwings on 08 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

It almost seems like Tatar got better playing in Grand Rapids, and is now more NHL ready then before?  No, that would mean Holland knows what he is doing.

#2352100 Tomas Tatar Is Jiri Hudler 2.0

Posted by cupforwings on 06 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

I think you just contradicted yourself if you agree that he didn't do much last night.


Considering he was playing with a couple of guys who will generate no offense, I think Tatar looked pretty good last night. Skated hard/fast, backchecked, forechecked. Showed some very simple glimpses of being able to create if he is given a little bit of space and time.


But again, you could only see so much with who he was playing with....

No, I didn't.  I guess I meant he didn't do anything to produce points.  But I thought he brought an element to the game that this team needs right now.