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In Topic: 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

11 June 2015 - 10:11 AM

You're in a Blackhawks related thread.  One which is directly applicable to Joel Quenneville's game time decision making.  If you didn't want to talk about it, this is probably not the thread to be posting in.


Lol, what a needless retort.

In Topic: 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

11 June 2015 - 09:47 AM

Quenneville's third pair last night played a combined 36 games this year.  One of them is a 23 year old rookie, with no playoff experience.  The other is a 40 year old who was injured all season long.  They were also AWFUL last night.  That's why they played so little. 
 
By your logic, Quenneville would be a better coach if he played less capable players more often than he does.  It doesn't make sense.


He also played an injured Johnny Oduya for 25 minutes...

We just disagree here. I don't have it in me to banter about Joel Quenneville and the Blackhawks.

In Topic: 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

11 June 2015 - 09:31 AM

Why do you feel "attacked" when I disagree with you?  I'm not attacking you.  I'm correcting you.  Because in this instance, you are completely wrong. 
 
If Quenneville is playing his top line just as much as guys like Babs and Bowman did, and his bottom pair less, then by default that means he's playing his second pair more.  Which the numbers bear out.  Hjalmarsson played 24:00 minutes last night.  Oduya played 25:00. 
 
So your notion that he plays his top guys WAY MORE, is false.  He plays them about the same same as most good coaches do with their top pair.  He just plays his second pair a lot more too.  Probably so that his train wreck third pair doesn't cost him the Stanley Cup.  His bottom pair is a rookie and a 40 year old that missed most of the season.  Would you play them more?


You're putting words into my mouth and then saying I'm wrong about it: YOU are bringing the top pair argument into the fold, I referenced the top 4.

I get that coaches play their top 2 guys a lot more, but you don't often see the bottom PAIR scraping the barrel for minutes and as a team being able to get away with it. Maybe the 6th guy gets 5 minutes, but not the 5th AND 6th.

Anyway, in my opinion (which isn't wrong because it's...an opinion) that mismatch in minutes is a big roll of the dice. Admittedly I have a predisposition that Quenneville is in the right place at the right time; I think he's just an ok coach (my opinion).

In Topic: 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

11 June 2015 - 08:58 AM

Like back when Lidstrom was averaging 30 minutes a night you mean?  Good coaching like that?
 
You ride the horses you have.  Babcock certainly wasn't shy about wearing out Lidstrom and Rafalski for a Stanley Cup, and he's a good coach right?
 
Plus, if you hadn't noticed, Chicago's defense is pretty banged up.  Oduya is walking wounded, and they've got Timmonen in the lineup because the career AHLer (Cuminsky) with 7 whole games played for the Hawks hasn't been cutting it. 
 
Who else is he going to play?
The great Scotty Bowman played Lidstrom 31:00 a night in the 2002 playoffs.  Perhaps he should have played Lidstrom a little less, and gone with his third pair.  That's what a good coach would do.


LOL why do you always attack people who have an opinion different than yours?

Scotty Bowman wasn't playing Duchesne, Fischer, or Dandenault 5 minutes a night.

Babcock didn't play Ericsson, Lebda, or Chelios 5 minutes a night.

In Topic: 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

10 June 2015 - 10:05 PM

I hate that playing his top  4 defensemen to death hasn't bit Quenneville in the ass yet...

 

A good coach finds ways to put his 5th and 6th defensemen in positions to succeed instead of simply not playing them.