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#2368108 Babs: " ....the players decide who plays, not me...."

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 12 March 2013 - 04:29 PM



"I go through this time and time again with the players, with the media, with everyone — the players decide who plays, not me. If you play good, you get to keep playing (and) if you don't …?"

Exhibit A: Dan Cleary
Exhibit B: Tomas Tatar
There is so much contradiction in that sentence, I want to throw up.

#2367963 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 12 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

Nyquist might be our trade deadline acquisition.  Holland may be wanting to see what Nyquist can do before deciding to pull the trigger on a trade that has us lose some assets.  Why this didn't happen earlier is anybody's guess.


Tatar got sent down probably because Nyquist will fill a similar role.  Anderson wouldn't get sent down because he's on the 4th line, and Nyquist will probably fill Tatar's presence.  I don't think it's a knock on Tatar, but we (unfortunately) can't send down Abdelkader or Cleary or someone like that instead.


They can sit their ass down just like White because they play like s***.


Sorry, I'm just really tired of them.

#2367957 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 12 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

There's no denying that.  The problem is Tatar can be sent down without a risk of losing him where as Cleary and Abdelkader cannot.  Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer if Tatar wasnt sent down either but it is what it is.


For me, the way I see it shaking out is the lines I posted above, then when Fil comes back he can slot in with Zetterberg - Brunner, which pushes Abs down to the 3rd line. 

I definitely LOL'd when I read that.


I would LOVE to have Cleary claimed off waivers!

#2367950 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 12 March 2013 - 10:43 AM

I think the fact that Babcock shuffled the lines so drmatically against CBJ means we may actually see Nyquist in the top 6.  Although Tatar has been great in his call up the last couple of games I felt he really didn't take care of the puck as well as he could have.  I think that plays into Babcock's reluctance to put Tatar on Pav's line.  Either way, I think Tatar played his way onto this team and it's just a matter of time until he is a permanent fixture.  Here's hoping Nuqist excels too.


Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Brunner

Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist

Cleary - Andersson - Eaves

Miller - Emmerton - Tootoo


I understand your reasoning. I just wish that applied to everyone on this team and that the guys with seniority were not exempt from that.


Dan Cleary can't skate. He can't shoot. He gets the puck stripped from him.


Everytime he or Abby fumbles a pass from Pav, I want to throw up.

#2367942 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 12 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

I think that they are getting these guys some time to show their value in the big league. Gearing up for a trade.


But I agree, i believe Tatar will be up with the big boys next year. love what hes doing so far.


My intention is NOT to attack you here, but next year is now.


This move would make sense if we were the Blackhawks or Penguins where we don't need wins in a hurry. Moving Tatar down while keeping those other two sacks of s*** in the lineup makes us worse.


Tatar and his defensive struggles.....spare me.


DAN CLEARY CANNOT SKATE ANYMORE. How does that NOT make him a defensive liability?

#2366980 3/9 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blue Jackets 3

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 09 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

Mike Babcock was quoted as saying "They get one game. Period." when referring to our rookies coming in and showing what they've got.


Apparently that does not apply to Abdelkader and Cleary who are deers in headlights when Pav passes them the puck.


There is a reason Pav hasn't scored in 8 games.

#2365993 Thoughts on the Blackhawks

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 07 March 2013 - 09:42 AM

Hawks are looking good.  It's not so much thinking about the record streak, it's when you ask yourself who the hell is gonna take these guys down in a 7 game series at this point??  if LA plays like they did last year in the playoffs, that would probably be a WCF and a damn entertaining one.  St. Louis was my early pick, but injuries and inconsistent play and goaltending knocked them off that mantle.


I really don't like saying this, but it seems that this team is playing in the right division and the right conference in order to do what they're doing.


I don't think they have this record if they had to play LA/Anaheim/Phoenix more often. Or if they had to play Vancouver more.


They definitely wouldn't have this record if they played in the Atlantic or Northeast divisions.


Most of their games are against teams that can't really come close to matching up skill wise: Nashville can't score, we can't score, St. Louis can't defend or score this year, and Columbus is Columbus. Right place at the right time....

#2365087 Holland says those dreaded words, "Our Deadline Addition"

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 05 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

I found it ironic when Kenny said "this team may not make the playoffs".


I thought it was his job to fix that problem?

#2363937 3/3 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 03 March 2013 - 02:08 PM

Someone PLEASE take this NBC broadcast and show it to Kenny regarding EVERYTHING that they have mentioned about Franzen!!!


Edzo tore him up pretty well on that PP.

#2363718 3/3 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 03 March 2013 - 01:12 PM

Are we tired or is Chicago just that good.... Skating circles around us..... Decent 1st... We need to mainline some ephedra at intermission!

We are REACTING to everything they do.


The Wings are trying to not get scored on which explains no urgency or aggressiveness in the offensive zone.

#2363226 Babs on last night's D: "...best we've had all year."

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 01 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

Makes you wonder where Carlo Coca-Cola will fit in when he comes back?  

I don't think he has a spot anywhere if the D continues to play this well.


We signed him because of uncertainty in our D corps right? We didn't know exactly what Smith or Kindl were going to be and Lashoff came out of nowhere.


He was a depth pickup and I think he should be treated as such.

#2361627 Gus Nyquist...

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 26 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

I agree.  You'd think Brunner would be enough, but apparently we need to have two or three new, young, stars before people are happy.  Honestly I'd rather be winning, regardless of who's playing.  And to do that we're going to need veterans to get healthy, and an upgrade on the top defensive pairing.  What we definitely don't need is another small(ish) playmaking forward. 


Winning is all that matters for sure.


And to your second point, absent of an acquisition, my hope is that once Smith gets back Ian White will move to the 3rd line where he belongs (i.e. where every other team that has had him in the past has played him at). But that is a different argument.

#2361618 Gus Nyquist...

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 26 February 2013 - 03:38 PM

Maybe it's more about him than it is our lineup. Maybe the front office sees something you don't. This is totally new toy syndrome. Because how often do we ever get a player from the AHL and think he could've been better if he were called up sooner? I can't think of any examples. Either the player comes up and is what we thought he'd be, or he's a disappointment in the way that time in the AHL had nothing to do with it.


I think part of it is that this fanbase wants to see more young top talent. Tatar is definitely a start.


The Wings' fanbase wants to see a Jordan Eberle, or a Sean Couturier, etc.


We want to see impactful young guys. Obviously they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but we WANT!

#2361533 Gus Nyquist...

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 26 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

In my limited time observing Nyq, and with my even more limited evaluation skills, it seems to me that Tatar is much harder on the puck than Nyq. 


And grittier.


That would be one reason Tatar is up now and Nyq is not.


Another reason could be that Holland & Co. feel like they know what they have in Nyq but needed to see Tatar in action at this level, thinking he could be effective, but wanting to see it.  And IMO, has proven more effective due to his agressiveness after the puck.


All that babble being said, I do think Nyq could easily have scored the goals Cleary scored, and a few more that Cleary let go through his skates etc.


Babcock seems to want a good shut down line that also scores with Pavs line, and maybe is afraid Nyq wouldn't be shut down capable.


With your experience watching Nyq, do you think coul be an accurate assessment?

In my opinion, that alone is why Tatar is with the club right now.


He didn't have that in seasons past. He is a hound out there right now. Scrap to go along with his offensive skill.

#2361486 Gus Nyquist...

Posted by unsaddleddonald on 26 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

I'd like to see Gus do whatever Tatar did.


I don't know about you guys, but I was thinking Tatar was on his way out before the season started and then he showed up and started playing the way he has.