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#2439468 9/27 Pre-Season GDT : Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Dave on 27 September 2013 - 08:51 PM

I still wish that we could move him, but Sammy actually doesn't look bad in the fourth line.
He's an expensive fourth liner though.


Sammy never looks bad. Hell he looks good at times. But when you think about him it's so hard to picture anything good you just assume that he's awful.

#2437954 9/19 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 8 at Bruins 2

Posted by Dave on 20 September 2013 - 12:59 PM

Not sure if its been discussed before, but...


Are those the jerseys the Wings are going to be wearing all season?


I couldn't help but notice that they ditched the clean arched font that they have used for years, and replaced it with an ugly blocky straight font for the names on the jerseys.


Weird how something so small can be so noticeable and actually bother me a bit, lol.




I was wondering if this was the year it wouldn't be mentioned.

#2436208 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Dave on 12 September 2013 - 01:04 PM


Well, Nyquist could very well start the season in Grand Rapids and you don't hear him complaining. Tatar was saying the same thing last year, that it was his last year in GR and he'd be asking for a trade if he wasn't in the Wings plans this year.


Honestly, I can't blame the guy, and I agree that he's proven himself. And I really want to see him on the Wing's starting roster in October/ BUT, I can't remember any prospect that's made the pro transition form GRs ever talk like this. (Filpulla, Hudler, Kronwall, Helm, Howard, Ericsson). And there have been plenty of guys over the years that have had to be patient. So there's that, and that's all I'm really saying.  


Outside of Howard none of those players played 4 years in GR. Howard wasn't exactly lighting the AHL on fire either. 


So if they ask Tatar, one of our top prospects, to spend year number 5 in GR then Tatar has a right to be pissed.

#2436175 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Dave on 12 September 2013 - 12:21 PM


And maybe this is why Tatar is slotted as a depth guy right now. Attitude?


What more can he do to prove he's NHL ready? He won the playoff MVP. He's watched players leap frog him on the depth chart. He had more points than Nyquist when he got sent back down. 


Seriously, if I got s*** on repeatedly like that I'd leave too. There's 29 teams that would sign him in a second.

#2436170 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Dave on 12 September 2013 - 12:08 PM

f*** holland. goddamn it. this team is stuck inf****** 2009. That s*** didn't work then, it's not going to work with everyone being 5 years older.

#2435534 Flames goalie Miikka Kiprusoff makes it official: He's retiring.

Posted by Dave on 09 September 2013 - 11:58 AM

Calgary is looking like the front runner for McDavid in 2015.

#2435077 Lines Thread

Posted by Dave on 05 September 2013 - 07:01 AM

Kronwall Howard Nyquist

Alfie Weiss Ericsson

Abby Andersson Tatar

Smith Helm Kindl


Z Dats

Dekeyser Lashoff

Franzen Eaves




#2430653 Rule 48: not working as planned.

Posted by Dave on 18 July 2013 - 12:23 PM

Consistent punishment might be useful. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't. So players roll the dice because, who knows, they might get away with it.

#2429470 Development Camp Day 1

Posted by Dave on 11 July 2013 - 12:16 PM

Article at http://www.wingingit...om/2013/7/11/4513068/red-wings-development-camp-day-1



Some of the LGW members will like this:


Things got a bit interesting when I saw something I've never seen at development camp before... A fight. Nick Jensen had Tyler Bertuzzi tied up to the side of the net during the cross ice drills and Little Bertuzzi didn't like it, so he crosschecked Jensen in the back with more aggression than was necessary, and sent him down on top of the goalie (Eskelinen) who was to my right. The next time their lines were up for the cross ice drill, Tyler went after Jensen again, this time they tussled a little bit near the other goalie (Patterson) who was to my left, and Tyler almost knocked Nick's helmet off. Nick had some choice words for him and they separated. It was obvious there was still tension between them though, and about thirty seconds later they came together near center ice, dropped the gloves, threw punches, and had it out. The coaches let the players go until the fight was over. Jensen got the worst of it, but I'd say no real physical damage was done. I probably wouldn't put those two next to each other at dinner right away though. Jensen got the worst of the fight, and did go off the ice for medical attention.

#2425582 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by Dave on 03 July 2013 - 07:34 PM

Soooooo we only have 1 day left until UFA.... are we going to lose Brunnski??? 


I read somewhere that it was likely that he is going to test the market. So, since other teams will overpay for anybody it's not far fetched that he won't be with Det next year.

#2425418 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by Dave on 03 July 2013 - 12:48 PM

Check out this lineup, WHOA! 


Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) 
Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($2.501m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.250m) / Danny Cleary ($3.200m) 
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Drew Miller ($1.350m) 
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) 
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) 
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Brendan Smith ($1.200m) 
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / 
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) 


Darren Helm ($2.125m) 


CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,753,379; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $2,556,621


That top 6 is INCREDIBLE. Look out NHL, s***.just.got.real.

#2423102 The CapGeek Thread

Posted by Dave on 28 June 2013 - 12:54 PM

My Custom Lineup
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) 
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.727m) / Michael Ryder ($4.500m) 
Gustav Nyquist ($1.501m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Damien Brunner ($3.350m) 
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.000m) / Drew Miller ($1.350m) 
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) 
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) 
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.050m) 
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($0.927m) 
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) 
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) 
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) 
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m) 
Buyout: Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m) 
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,624,193; BONUSES: $1,010,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $685,807


Such a pipe dream, but whatevs...This is what I'd like to see.

#2421846 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by Dave on 24 June 2013 - 08:02 PM

Except, no one besides Orr put up even remotely as many points back then from the blueline.  How come nobody else did that if Orr was just taking advantage of poor goaltending?  Is it because there were no other good defensemen back then?  Hardly.  
This argument is flawed, because to me if a guy dominates his era and is far above others, he's truly amazing and could have succeeded in any era with improved modern day training and equipment.  
Same thing with people who say that Wilt Chamberlain only dominated because he was so tall compared to others of his era?  Well, how come Bill Russell didn't easily score 50 points a season, since he was really tall too?  
Relative to their eras and their competition, Orr was twice as good as Lidstrom.  And I'd argue there were more good defensemen in Orr's prime than there were in Lidstrom's, as relative competition.  

It's the same reason Royce Gracie dominated in the early years of UFC, then proceeded to get dominated by the later generations of fighters.

Was Orr better than his competition of the time? Absolutely, no question. However, his competition is so far below today's NHL that his gaudy numbers would never happen in today's game.

Another good comparison would be Maltby dominating in juniors. He was way better than his competition, but he couldn't dominate like that against higher skilled players.

#2421718 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by Dave on 24 June 2013 - 09:23 AM

Am I the only person here who thinks that Orr would not be able to score at all in today's game? Seriously, most of his goals were garbage. He was allowed to just skate around the O zone without anyone laying a body on him. Nobody blocked shots back then like they do today. Finally, goalies have improved a s*** ton since the '70s.

#2421167 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by Dave on 21 June 2013 - 07:33 AM

Maybe he's just posturing in hopes of being talked down to 4 rather than being offered 3.5.


Or maybe he's letting other teams know that he's available.  In this year's market, he shouldn't have trouble finding a home for more money.  Too bad.  I like the guy.


Holland usually gets players to sign before the end of the season. If Detroit was going to retain Fil it would have been done by now.


Which leads to what we were all complaining about at the trade deadline. We lose Fil for absolutely nothing.