Bieksa had a pretty nice hit on Brown not to long after the altercation, and that's all that should happen. It should be, if you hit our guy hard, we're going to hit you hard. Not, if you hit our guy hard, we're going to try to punch your face in.
Burrows is anything but a goon. He's a spot-picking rat. Had a "goon" been on the ice, I doubt Burrows goes after Kopitar.
But yes, the rough stuff after clean hits is annoying as hell. In essence, it deters hitting.
That's exactly the point. When someone on your team gets hit hard....clean or not, you want to send a message that they will need to pay whenever they do that.....try to deter hitting the future, that's exactly what they are trying to accomplish. To be honest, I'd be unhappy if my team didn't respond to hard hits, you have to show that you won't get pushed around.
Another thing to think about....I bet that hit isn't made of it wasn't Sedin...they target star players and try to punish them, you need to respond. If the hit is dirty, the response would be a lot more violent.
Is Babcock not watching the games out there? Cleary is just skating around aimlessly and isn't able to help the team. In not doing so, he's hurting it.
Call up some youngster from the minors who will play hungry and try to shine in the playoffs. Kind of like Helm in 2008. It's honestly more the coaching staff's fault than Cleary's. He'll play until he drops, but they have to step in there and realize it's not a good idea.
That's exactly my point. The fact that he's still in the lineup says that either the organization feels Cleary at 50% is still better than someone from GR at 100% or they just don't have any other choice. Conner comes to mind as a replacement but that pretty much tells me that Babcock thinks Cleary is worth more injured than a healthy Conner.
With as (sort of--better than Campbell anyway) consistent as Shanny was throughout the year, does everyone think these decisions are all him or is there some pressure coming from elsewhere in the league? I thought Shanny did a decent job with a tough position throughout the season, but I lost a lot of respect for him on the Weber decision. I feel like throwing up in my mouth when I say that, because he was always one of my favorite players, but there you have it. Certain things just should not be a part of the game and I think he dropped the ball.
Zetterberg is ok so im over it. However I want to chime in about everyone complaining about how dirty he is, what an idiot he is, disgrace to capitancy blah blah blah. You guys do relize this is hockey right? Almost every captain in this league has a little dirtiness and snarl to them except for ours. I would welcome Weber to our team with open arms, maybe a few players would be more esitant to snow shower Jimmy or run roughshod down low.
Once again the media catching a situation with a photo that could be interpreted the wrong way (which it is) and causing a stink for their own benefit.
how in thee hell could this be interpreted the wrong way? it's pretty obvious what's going on here, ray charles.
Kostitsyn: "What's wrong, Shea?" Weber: *sniffle* "Oh, nothing... I just feel sooo bad about this Zetterberg thing. Its weighing heavily on my mind..." Kostitsyn: "I know, buddy. But thanks to that fine, you'll know better next time. And it goes to a fund for head-smashed players, so chin-up" Weber: *sniffle* "Thanks, buddy. Can... can you just... hold me for a bit? I don't want the guys to see me so upset" Kostitsyn: "Sure thing, comrade"
This clown won't be back after we win game 2 and tie the series up. We will go back to the Joe win both there and this guy will never be seen again.
By the way.. cute username...
Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm having quite the time here, so I think I'll stick around even after we take the series 4-1
Oh and don't get all petty insults with me because I'm telling it like it is. You guys would LOVE to grab Weber if Nashville didn't keep him & you'd be a liar if you say otherwise. Like one of your own said, don't throw Weber under the bus for one bad incident. The guy is an overall great player who has next to never had any history of unnecessary or foul play to be such a physical d man.
good job elaborating on why there hockeymom... way to add to the conversation with a reasonable explanation as to why you think my post about one of the worst players in the NHL is
Bottom line, you shouldn't have a guy playing on the top 2 lines just because he doesn't bring anything to the table on the bottom 6. It would be much more effective to keep Nyquist up and maybe bring Tatar and toss Andersson on the 4th line to add the grit that everyone wanted from a guy like Sami Pahlsson. Homer's "good" days are behind him and as said by many, the Wings loyalty to some players that are way over the hill is costing the team in the long run. keep them for their career, but know when their career is at an end.
Posted by kipwinger
on 29 February 2012 - 11:06 AM
Good to see one of our top players become the whipping boy. All the years of idiots bitching about scrubs of marginal impact was getting stale.
I thought about interjecting some rationality, but decided it would be pointless. Those who want to hate Franzen will do so regardless. They'll overstate his flaws, downplay or outright dismiss his strengths. Once he goes on another hot streak you'll all go back to jerking off to his picture while burning Ericsson in effigy.
Goal and assist tonight. On pace for 30+ goals, and career highs in assists and points. Yeah, such awful depreciation.
I think you're right. It's obviously hard to ***** about the guy's production over the past couple of years, especially given how much we pay for it. I think the real *****, at least for me anyway, is that except in rare circumstances, I've never believed that Franzen was the kind of guy who could take a game over and completely dominate. Obviously he's had a boat load of multiple point games, but that's not what I mean. I mean a guy that works so hard every shift, that opposition defenses have to match against him, have to spend time and effort to slow him down, or have to eat s*** if they don't. What's frustrating is that it's not that he doesn't have the skill set to do it, but rather, he's just kind of lazy. To me, what makes Pav, Z, and more and more often Filppula, so dangerous is that they are skilled enough to beat you themselves, but also because you have to take them seriously on every shift, they open the ice up for their linemates. I think Franzen could play that way, but sadly doesn't. I think he's the beneficiary of a lot of hard work from the other guys. And again, you could say this about a lot of people, but in most cases they're limited by a lack of pure skill. A limit Franzen doesn't have. Don't get me wrong, 25-30 goals a year is nice, and for the money it's wonderful. But 25-30 goals a year that commands a defensive response, and makes everyone around him better would be much nicer. And the only thing stopping Franzen from being a guy like that, is Franzen himself...which is just sort of, frustrating.
Basically, I see a guy who is already effective, but with a more consistent effort could be a Cory Perry or Shane Doan type guy. Somebody who's an absolutely beast to play against every night. Lord knows I'd love to see that.