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#1911391 Another goalie thread...

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 11:21 AM

I thought maybe we might try to pickup a cheap insurance policy at the deadline like Roloson, but it didn't happen. So you got to go with the only option we have, and that's Howard. He hasn't been playing as well as he was before the break but he's still a far better option that the human 5 hole highlight film.

Obviously considering the "human 5 hole" hasn't played consistently since 2009. He is as cold as an ice cream sandwich right now.

#1911243 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 01:04 AM

"No I am insinuating that just because you played in juniors (whoop de freaking doo) doesn't mean you are the master of hockey knowledge"

I guess you forgot the part where you added "OMFG GUYS BTW THE WING'S BRASS ARE THE ULTRA MASTERS OF HOCKEY KNOWEDLGE". Not only is the above post a lie, but the point is invalid, as I have raised several points that neither of you have cared to reply on reagarding the inflation the lack of "poltical backlash" and the diffirence in ability vs the diffirence in price + draft picks.

You are a very black kettle my freind

You realize cherry picking my quote doesn't help when I can take the full quote in context and show it back to you, right?

"No I am insinuating that just because you played in juniors (whoop de freaking doo) doesn't mean you are the master of hockey knowledge here and should bring it up as ammunition to belittle another poster."


Second, I am not being a hypocrite at all.


Excellent work. And you did notice that I didn't disagree with you on anything, but thought that your argument to authority (you seem to know what a logical fallacy is) was over the line and unnecessary.

#1911232 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 12:48 AM

You are putting words in my mouth. Show me once where I claimed that I would be more worthy of a job then any of the Wing's Brass. While I'm waiting for infinity for you to find something that dosent exsist I will admit that yes it is not even close to playing in the NHL, but that still dosent mean you understand tangibles in the game and have a broader understanding of it than the average person.

This isn't an arguement, as neither of us will ever convince the other of the opposite, but honestly I don't really comprehend how people disagree that it would help you to understand the game more.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. I claimed that you are acting like a big shot ON THIS FORUM because you played in junior. Never said that you stated that you were more knowledgeable than the Wings brass.

My entire point was you are attempting to belittle other posters. "What do I know, right? I only played junior." For starters that is argument to authority, and nobody is going to care that you played junior unless you actually use your knowledge, apply it here and bring out logical points (and you can do that without ever trying to sarcastically bring up how you played in junior).

#1911183 3/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Blackhawks 4

Posted by Doc Holliday on 07 March 2010 - 11:47 PM

Outta curiosity - in what way did you feel Lilja played horrible?...So far I think he's played very well in every game.


The Ladd goal he was out for was no way his fault. Zetterberg over-committed on a hit when Lils was right there and Lebda/Filpulla teamed up to get the puck right in front of Howard.

#1894685 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Doc Holliday on 15 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Opie @ February 15, 2010 - 08:28PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but if it were Eva you would be making fun of his made up stats, correct?

But because his made up stat supports your argument you are arguing based on the fact it supports your point not that it is in any way factual, correct?

Otherwise please show me where you were able to find the SPARC otherwise known as save percentage accounting for rebound control.

I never said Outsiders stats were factual.

I never have once made fun of Eva for his statistics, only made a light-hearted jab at his love for Hudler.

All I said is that clutchngrab was using an ad hom attack. "You are homer so you are skewing the numbers" is ridiculous. If he had simply said "you are pulling those out of your ass" I would have not even bothered to press the reply button. But using someone's "homerism" as the sole reason to attack a premise is plain silly.

Also I don't think the rebound control problem is a huge problem, but I do think he needs to work on it. I also have stated numerous times that Howard earned the #1 spot and that I have no problem seeing him with the majority of the starts from here on out.


#1892288 Should Valtteri Filppula be traded?

Posted by Doc Holliday on 12 February 2010 - 02:20 PM

Fil is probably the biggest catch Detroit has right now, trade-wise.

He does his job perfectly well, can play excellent defense, and is not at his prime yet. However I think he is very expendable because he isn't the best offensive player there is or the best defensive player.

I really hope they don't, because I love having Fil on the team.

#1876944 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (hankzet40 @ January 29, 2010 - 11:38PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I know no, but it's pretty ridiculous Stuey had to do this twice in a year.

This was taken at the Columbus game. Why they wore red that game is beyond me.

#1876938 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (hankzet40 @ January 29, 2010 - 11:31PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another one? Didn't he do that in Columbus too? And wasn't that the 1-0 OT loss which was pretty much the beginning of the Howard era?

Was there already a thread on it?

#1876933 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:27 PM

I found this after looking for some high-res pictures for a background, and I have to say I think it is funny that Stuart of all people is going after the beach ball since he has been swiping away countless stray pucks from behind both Howard and Osgood this season.

#1854016 OHL Hit

Posted by Doc Holliday on 07 January 2010 - 10:29 AM

I would have loved to see the guy who lacerated my spleen (on a hit I was making) get suspended just cause.

#1845030 NHL.com's All Decade team

Posted by Doc Holliday on 24 December 2009 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (eva unit zero @ December 24, 2009 - 01:44PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the spirit of this thread, here's my proposed All-Decade Team for the 1990s:

First team
C: Mario Lemieux
W: Jaromir Jagr
W: Brett Hull
D: Raymond Bourque
D: Chris Chelios
G: Dominik Hasek

Second team
C: Steve Yzerman
W: Brendan Shanahan
W: Pavel Bure
D: Nicklas Lidstrom
D: Brian Leetch
G: Patrick Roy

Honorable mention:
C: Sergei Fedorov, Peter Forsberg, Joe Sakic
W: Teemu Selanne, Paul Kariya, Keith Tkachuk, John LeClair
D: Rob Blake, Al MacInnis, Sergei Zubov, Scott Stevens
G: Martin Brodeur, Ed Belfour, Chris Osgood

I was about to blast you for putting in players who didn't hardly play in the 2000s but then I read 90s.

#1843772 NHL.com's All Decade team

Posted by Doc Holliday on 23 December 2009 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (GMRwings1983 @ December 23, 2009 - 04:34PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's amazing that people here actually think that Osgood playing for the Wings would do better than if Luongo had played for us all this time.

Also, what about Hasek. Why isn't he the 2nd best goalie of the decade?

I don't think it matters since Luongo doesn't play for the Wings. Osgood has a cup in this decade and Luongo doesn't have a single Western Conference appearance to his name.

Hasek you have an argument for, but not Luongo.

#1843709 NHL.com's All Decade team

Posted by Doc Holliday on 23 December 2009 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE (GMRwings1983 @ December 23, 2009 - 02:55PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Red Wings won one Stanley Cup in this decade with Ozzie as the starter.

How many Cups do you guys think we'd have if Luongo was our starter the entire decade?

I say more than one.

Him and his stacked Vancouver team sure did a hell of a lot last year.

#1843683 NHL.com's All Decade team

Posted by Doc Holliday on 23 December 2009 - 02:29 PM


Nicklas Lidstrom
Teams: Detroit (2000-present)

As the Devils built around Brodeur, so have the Detroit Red Wings used Lidstrom as the core of the NHL's most successful team of the decade.

Lidstrom owned the Norris Trophy, given to the NHL's top defenseman, during the 2000s. He won it six times in a span of seven seasons from 2000-01 through 2007-08 while making the First All-Star Team six times (and the second team in 2008-09).

To watch Lidstrom is to watch a master at work. He's not going to amaze you with his speed, but he gets where he has to go. He's not the most physical defenseman you'll ever see, but he's plenty big enough. There's been no one better over the past several years at running a power play, triggering a breakout and doing anything and everything that needs to be done to win hockey games.

"He's the greatest that I've ever played against … and with," Wings forward Todd Bertuzzi said earlier this season. "I was in during an era where there were some pretty darn good defensemen, Scott Niedermayer, Al MacInnis and all that. Just playing against him year after year after year and being fortunate to be on the same side as him you can appreciate the kind of talent that he has. Just his character and his demeanor, and what he brings to the game and to the city of Detroit.”

Lidstrom is still going strong at age 39; earlier this season, he became the first European defenseman to reach 1,000 points for his career. That goes along with having the honor of being the first European captain to lift the Stanley Cup, which he did when the Wings beat Pittsburgh in 2008.

"Nick Lidstrom is one of the greatest defenseman of all time," said Wings broadcaster Larry Murphy, a Hall of Famer who was Lidstrom's partner in the late 1990s. "He's done it all. The guy that makes the game look so easy, but it's not. Count on him, game in, and game out."

Chris Osgood
Teams: Detroit (2000-01 and 2005-present); New York Islanders (2001-03; St. Louis Blues (2003-04)

All Chris Osgood does is win. A lot. And often. And in big spots.

Osgood is one of the few athletes who's been getting better as he gets older. He left Detroit when he wound up as the odd-man out in the fall of 2001, and all he did was lead the Islanders to their best season since 1992-93. He led the Blues to the playoffs the following spring, then returned to the Wings in 2005 and reinvented himself as an even better goaltender than the one who led Detroit to the Stanley Cup in 1998.

Osgood was a key to the Wings' Cup win in 2008 and nearly got them another one last spring. He's approaching 400 career wins and is putting together a resume that will make it tough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame.